Around the League News and Rumors (Non-Hawks) Part 2

kg01 · Post #281 » by **kg01** » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:46 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:The interview happened during last season, not this summer.

I stand corrected:

Giannis Antetokounmpo told a Harvard University professor that if the Milwaukee Bucks underperform this season, it would make his decision on whether to stick with the team "a lot more difficult."

The unusually pointed language from the team's superstar came in a spring 2019 interview with Anita Elberse, a Harvard Business School professor who was researching a case study on the Bucks' turnaround and the challenges a small-market NBA team faces in retaining a superstar-level player.
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I still see it as a potential crack in the veneer. Especially if Bucks lose 4 straight in the post-season to be eliminated again next post-season. (The Budenholzer Special)

It's not your fault. Most outlets are reporting it as if it was said this week. If it had been said this week, it would be news. But, the fact of the matter is, this is a stale quote being put out to drum up attention for this professor.

I think it highlights a crack that's always been there and that's there for all players.

So I both agree and disagree with you.

Post #282 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:14 am

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Post #283 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:22 pm

Crazy, crackpot theory I've heard from a few places:

If Trae Young and the Hawks come to fruition, could they actually become a player for Giannis Antetokounmpo?

Look at the pieces Travis Schlenk has put in place, and it's hard not to at least think about a run at Giannis in 2021

this is the exciting core of a team that is, for all intents and purposes, the youngest in basketball. All the while, the Hawks are projected to have some $70 million in cap space next season. That said, Schlenk is adamant he won't use the Hawks' cap space just because they have it.

You start looking around the league at the teams who might have both the cap space and an intriguing enough roster to at least draw the interest of Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Atlanta has to be at least mentioned. We'll obviously have to see how these young guys develop. But if indeed they start making the transition from potentially good to actually good, all the pieces are in place for a splash move.

"I haven't given it much thought, but no, I don't think it would be out of the question," a league scout told CBS Sports about the possibility of Giannis, or any other big-time free agent, eventually considering Atlanta. "There's no doubt they're building something there. But...in the NBA, the gap between young and promising and even just becoming a playoff team is huge. Atlanta obviously has a long way to go."

CBS Sports

The player that every team in the league will target is Giannis Antetokounmpo, who will be an unrestricted free agent in the summer of 2021. The Hawks could create a pretty appealing situation for him. They will have the cap space to let him choose a costar on a max contract in the same way Kawhi Leonard just did with Paul George, while still having a potentially elite point guard, elite big man, and waves of 3-and-D wings on their roster. If Hunter and the rest of their young core develops in the way they hope, a team trying to be the next Warriors will have a slot for its version of Kevin Durant.

The Hawks should be one of the most exciting young teams in the NBA over the next few seasons. They play a 3-point-heavy style with the type of versatile defensive cast that could be very appealing to a superstar in free agency, much like the Nets were this offseason. They don’t have any bad salaries on their books, either; the only deals past 2020-21 are rookie contracts. They will have acres of cap space ahead of them. Collins won’t be eligible for an extension until the summer of 2021, and Young won’t be up for one until 2022.

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Post #284 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:03 pm

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Coach Carter · Post #286 » by **Coach Carter** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:52 am

Bucks fan here,

I've come for some insight. When we're hitting our 3's it's happy days. We were up 17 v miami and 19 against boston. 3rd quarter it seems we can't hit anything, yet bud persists with this ''let it fly approach''. No adjustments, no plan b, except for some old school back to basket brook when things get tight. My question is why the **** does he do this? Laziness, stubbornness or has he taken us as far as he can? I can understand that he doesn't have a player like trae that can create off screens (well i mean there's hill but he is in his twilight years). I don't see it as a good enough excuse though. You see spoelstra running two man plays with winslow and bam.

MaceCase · Post #287 » by **MaceCase** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:57 am

Coach Carter wrote:Bucks fan here,

I've come for some insight. When we're hitting our 3's it's happy days. We were up 17 v miami and 19 against boston. 3rd quarter it seems we can't hit anything, yet bud persists with this ''let it fly approach''. No adjustments, no plan b, except for some old school back to basket brook when things get tight. My question is why the **** does he do this? Laziness, stubbornness or has he taken us as far as he can? I can understand that he doesn't have a player like trae that can create off screens (well i mean there's hill but he is in his twilight years). I don't see it as a good enough excuse though. You see spoelstra running two man plays with winslow and bam.

Oh no. Bud does not have a "let it fly" approach, he has a "LET THAT f@$&#% FLY!!!" approach. His scheme can be very successful but he proved time and time again that adjustments to said scheme were a weak point. Don't get us started on his playcalling though. That we considered non-existent unless an out of bounds play ending up... out of bounds was the intended goal.

Post #288 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:13 pm

Heaven help the NBA if Warriors end up with another top-10 selection next summer...

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Post #289 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:08 pm

Coach Carter wrote:Bucks fan here,

I've come for some insight. When we're hitting our 3's it's happy days. We were up 17 v miami and 19 against boston. 3rd quarter it seems we can't hit anything, yet bud persists with this ''let it fly approach''. No adjustments, no plan b, except for some old school back to basket brook when things get tight. My question is why the **** does he do this? Laziness, stubbornness or has he taken us as far as he can? I can understand that he doesn't have a player like trae that can create off screens (well i mean there's hill but he is in his twilight years). I don't see it as a good enough excuse though. You see spoelstra running two man plays with winslow and bam.

BUDENHOLZER BELIEVES in his OFFENSIVE SYSTEM to an OBSCENE DEGREE.

To his credit, it's usually effective in the regular season (when planning is minimal) and when shots are falling. But, it's mind-numbingly infuriating to watch when those shots don't go down or the opposing team adjusts to limit easy looks.

The thing about Coach Bud -- once the other team figures out how to slow his offense down, he's somewhat easy to beat.
To this point:

Bud was swept out of the playoffs twice in Atlanta by Lebron and the Cavs. (4 straight losses.)
Bud's last post-season ended to Kawhi and the Raptors with 4 straight losses.
Bud's first post-season in Atlanta ended with Hawks losing 3 out of 4 games to Paul George and the Pacers.

(And the Game 5 win against PG13 and the Pacers only came because a bench player had a career game from 3-pt range that night.)

Spoiler:

Once opposing coaches figure out what Bud wants to do...he's fairly easy to out-strategize. There is no Plan B...just better execution of Plan A.

It's why he's never won a single elimination game in his post-season career.

kg01 · Post #290 » by **kg01** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:17 pm

Coach Carter wrote:Bucks fan here,

I've come for some insight. When we're hitting our 3's it's happy days. We were up 17 v miami and 19 against boston. 3rd quarter it seems we can't hit anything, yet bud persists with this ''let it fly approach''. No adjustments, no plan b, except for some old school back to basket brook when things get tight. My question is why the **** does he do this? Laziness, stubbornness or has he taken us as far as he can? I can understand that he doesn't have a player like trae that can create off screens (well i mean there's hill but he is in his twilight years). I don't see it as a good enough excuse though. You see spoelstra running two man plays with winslow and bam.

The prior two responses encapsulate his issues well. I'll add that it's clear he's good at elevating the "program" overall. In-game adjustments seem to escape him. It's like "Run plan A!" ... "Plan A's not working, coach!" "Well ... run plan A better then!"

You won't get much more from Budenz. MIL getting further will be on Giannis' shoulders. I know he's a hard worker but, so far, the holes in his game are still there.

Coach Carter · Post #291 » by **Coach Carter** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:42 pm

Thanks for the responses guys,

Look, I'm grateful to bud. Under kidd, we couldn't thrive in our defensive scheme even though it was similar. Bud got our guys playing hard. Our rebounding IQ went up ( i think we went from last the previous season to 1st the following) and we started hitting more 3s. 1 yr in though, i feel we've plateaued. We have a roster that can make noise in the playoffs though against great defences, our guys are left clueless. I think we'll be founded out again, hell it's already starting to happen.

Post #292 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:42 pm

For as much as I love this kid, Wendell Carter, Jr. is seemingly ALWAYS nursing some injury.

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kg01 · Post #293 » by **kg01** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:58 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:For as much as I love this kid, Wendell Carter, Jr. is seemingly ALWAYS nursing some injury.

As the tweet suggested, he's also always gettin' dunked on.

And on another note, hasn't necro-liking gotten you in trouble before @Cleo-liver?

Post #294 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:26 pm

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As the tweet suggested, he's also always gettin' dunked on.

Occupational Hazard...

Post #295 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 10:31 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:For as much as I love this kid, Wendell Carter, Jr. is seemingly ALWAYS nursing some injury.

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The league needs him healthy. I say that because of his style of play and more so his toughness.

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Post #296 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Nov 5, 2019 3:23 pm

Monty Williams getting it done in Phoenix!! Sacramento, Chicago, NY and New Orleans looking foolish for passing on this guy for their current Head Coaches.

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Post #297 » by **HMFFL** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:57 am

Miami Heat guard Dion Waiters required medical treatment after having a panic attack on the team flight Thursday after eating a THC Infused edible.

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Post #298 » by **HMFFL** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:49 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Monty Williams getting it done in Phoenix!! Sacramento, Chicago, NY and New Orleans looking foolish for passing on this guy for their current Head Coaches.

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Teams are quick to fire a coach. Phoenix has so much talent and he's putting it together nicely. Good for him!

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Post #299 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:08 pm

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Post #300 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:05 pm

Has Russ Westbrook already cemented himself as an NBA Hall of Famer?

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