Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Arsenal · Post #281 » by **Arsenal** » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:44 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I agree, he'll never be as consistent a shooter as a Danny Green.

Thybulle will probably have some seasons at 35-37% shooting, but I doubt he even gets beyond that.

He's a +3 player even at 35-37%. If he has a season at 40% on high volume, he'll approach a +5 which is star level impact.

Embiid-MVP · Post #282 » by **Embiid-MVP** » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:44 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I agree, he'll never be as consistent a shooter as a Danny Green.

Thybulle will probably have some seasons at 35-37% shooting, but I doubt he even gets beyond that.

Never know. He could become very dependable from 3. This kid has tons of promise

Ericb5 · Post #283 » by **Ericb5** » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:58 pm

His form is clean as can be, so he certainly LOOKS like someone that will become a good 3 point shooter.

Even at 35-37% with volume he could be a major weapon given his defensive abilities.

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Kobblehead · Post #284 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:59 am

Embiid-MVP wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I agree, he'll never be as consistent a shooter as a Danny Green.

Thybulle will probably have some seasons at 35-37% shooting, but I doubt he even gets beyond that.

Never know. He could become very dependable from 3. This kid has tons of promise

Nah, he's too wildly inconsistent to ever have "dependable" attached to his shooting.

36%, 71%
40%, 84%
36%, 71%
30%, 85%

Those were his three point and free throw percentages throughout his Washington career. You never knew what you were going to get.

PhillyPhilly · Post #285 » by **PhillyPhilly** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:54 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Embiid-MVP wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I agree, he'll never be as consistent a shooter as a Danny Green.

Thybulle will probably have some seasons at 35-37% shooting, but I doubt he even gets beyond that.

Never know. He could become very dependable from 3. This kid has tons of promise

Nah, he's too wildly inconsistent to ever have "dependable" attached to his shooting.

36%, 71%
40%, 84%
36%, 71%
30%, 85%

Those were his three point and free throw percentages throughout his Washington career. You never knew what you were going to get.

Hows about we let a 22 year old kid develop his game In the league before making definitive statements about his ability? Did anyone see Kawhi as a rookie and know who he would be today? No chance...so let's give the kid time fgs. His potential is outstanding imo and he just needs to keep his head down and keep grinding.

SixthStreet · Post #286 » by **SixthStreet** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:40 am

He's genuinely bad on offense but part of the reason why is because his defense is giving him latitude with Brett to on offense to do things clearly outside his skill level. He's making a ton of mistakes as a result but in Brett language this is how you grow a player. I find this promising.

ConstableChaos · Post #287 » by **ConstableChaos** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:55 am

I'm not overreacting thinking Thybulle/Simmons > Jordan/Pippen??

Ericb5 · Post #288 » by **Ericb5** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:02 am

His physical tools, instincts, and desire on defense are amazing. He made several great defensive plays tonight.

His offense is secondary right now, and he is definitely making mistakes, but his jumper looks good form wise.

I live that he is earning over 20 minutes a game on what will likely be a 60 win team as a rookie. It’s fun to watch, and a boon for our bench.

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ivysixer2000 · Post #289 » by **ivysixer2000** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:20 pm

ConstableChaos wrote:I'm not overreacting thinking Thybulle/Simmons > Jordan/Pippen??

I'm not overreacting thinking Thybulle/Furkgod > Jordan/Pippen??

Fixed.

Tony Franciosa · Post #290 » by **Tony Franciosa** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:35 pm

Ericb5 wrote:His physical tools, instincts, and desire on defense are amazing. He made several great defensive plays tonight.

His offense is secondary right now, and he is definitely making mistakes, but his jumper looks good form wise.

I live that he is earning over 20 minutes a game on what will likely be a 60 win team as a rookie. It’s fun to watch, and a boon for our bench.

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yeah I'm 100% with this. and if it means less Mike Scott, I'm more in favor of him getting extended looks.

mksp · Post #291 » by **mksp** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:43 pm

He looked better offensively last night. His pick-and-roll drop offs to Ben were really well timed and placed and he took Cov to the hoop a couple times.

He's gonna be a good one. Just looks like he belongs.

HotelVitale · Post #292 » by **HotelVitale** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:58 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Embiid-MVP wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I agree, he'll never be as consistent a shooter as a Danny Green. Thybulle will probably have some seasons at 35-37% shooting, but I doubt he even gets beyond that.
Never know. He could become very dependable from 3. This kid has tons of promise
Nah, he's too wildly inconsistent to ever have "dependable" attached to his shooting.
36%, 71%
40%, 84%
36%, 71%
30%, 85%
Those were his three point and free throw percentages throughout his Washington career. You never knew what you were going to get.

I agree that he'll probably never be Danny Green but the samples on his college free throws are incredibly small, between 40 and 60 FTs a year. Four more makes his junior year, for example, and he's near 80% instead of 70%. Something that small is always going to be fluke-y.

Regarding 3s, he shot more of them but even those samples are probably too small to be super conclusive. E.g. if he made 0.2 more shots per game last year he would've been at a much more respectable 35-36%.

I don't think he's a great/pure shooter but some extremely good 3/D guys weren't that either, so I think there's hope that he can improve quite a bit just by drilling a quick trigger corner and elbow shot over and over again. (Right now he's also taking harder shots than he needs to instead of just the open catch-shoot ones.)

agiaco · Post #293 » by **agiaco** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:02 pm

Watch on YouTube

HotelVitale · Post #294 » by **HotelVitale** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:10 pm

I was watching the stream with the Wolves announcers last night and they got a kick out of Thybulle. Kept chuckling about how much of a pest he was on the ball. Good to see we're not the only ones getting some glee out of Matisse.

bball4life · Post #295 » by **bball4life** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:23 pm

His defense is already world class. I do think teams will start capitalizing on his over aggressive nature to draw fouls but I think he's smart enough to adjust when that starts to happen.

On offense, he's already far more polished than Covington. Not perfect but shows the ability to handle the ball a little bit, and has already delivered some nice passes in traffic. I think he's going to end up being closer to Iguodala than Covington in total skill set. I'm not saying he will ever have Iggy's handle but he's already light years ahead of Covington in that regard.

Kobblehead · Post #296 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:28 pm

bball4life wrote:His defense is already world class. I do think teams will start capitalizing on his over aggressive nature to draw fouls but I think he's smart enough to adjust when that starts to happen.

On offense, he's already far more polished than Covington. Not perfect but shows the ability to handle the ball a little bit, and has already delivered some nice passes in traffic. I think he's going to end up being closer to Iguodala than Covington in total skill set. I'm not saying he will ever have Iggy's handle but he's already light years ahead of Covington in that regard.

Covington was on another planet, offensively, as Thybulle, at the same stage of development.

It will be a minor miracle if Thybulle ever averages more than 8 ppg in an NBA season.

Winejk · Post #297 » by **Winejk** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:30 pm

bball4life wrote:His defense is already world class. I do think teams will start capitalizing on his over aggressive nature to draw fouls but I think he's smart enough to adjust when that starts to happen.

On offense, he's already far more polished than Covington. Not perfect but shows the ability to handle the ball a little bit, and has already delivered some nice passes in traffic. I think he's going to end up being closer to Iguodala than Covington in total skill set. I'm not saying he will ever have Iggy's handle but he's already light years ahead of Covington in that regard.

You may be right with that "closer to Iguodala" comparison. He's actually pretty good with the ball in the side line pick and rolls. He gets into the lane easily with separation. He'll need to learn to finish, but I think the potential is there. I think he needs to get to the point where the offense slows down for him. Once that happens he'll hit a better % from 3 and be effective in the pick and roll.

Post #298 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:44 pm

NBA record for steals in a season is 301, in case anyone was wondering.

12 through 4 games, so he's a bit off pace (playing bench minutes of course). If he kept up 3 SPG and played all 82 (246) he'd be top 10 all time.

RealAlex01 · Post #299 » by **RealAlex01** » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:25 am

Matisse Thybulle has been a gem, especially on defense where he has been a stud. Once he develops an offensive skill set, it will turn out to be a great draft pick by us. Love watching him be so tenacious on defense.

Post #300 » by **Foshan** » Fri Nov 1, 2019 1:16 pm

honestly wasn't thrilled with the pick (mainly just didn't know much about him), but I am definitely coming around

I'd get his jersey, but then he'd break a leg or we'd trade him... so i'll just cheer from behind my computer screen