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2019 season speculation including trade ideas

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Will Booker make the all-star team this year?

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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#961 » by sunsbg » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:24 pm

DRK wrote:I dont know how Cam Johnson was rated so low on the draft day.
His jumpshot off the catch is Klay-esque. Beautiful form and such a quick release.

What has impressed me the most is versatility on offence. Hes much more than just a shooter.(sound familiar?) He moves really well off the ball, and times his cuts well. Also seen him initiate the offence a couple of times as well.

Im very happy with the pick.


Merging Cam and Mikal into one player will result in Klay. :D I'm happy with the pick as well.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#962 » by BobbieL » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:44 pm

DRK wrote:I dont know how Cam Johnson was rated so low on the draft day.
His jumpshot off the catch is Klay-esque. Beautiful form and such a quick release.

What has impressed me the most is versatility on offence. Hes much more than just a shooter.(sound familiar?) He moves really well off the ball, and times his cuts well. Also seen him initiate the offence a couple of times as well.

Im very happy with the pick.


I think his age was one thing. I think maybe he didn’t have a defined role on defense. Does he guard the three or four? The two?

But coming out I comped him to Doug McDermott and Korver. I will add Curry too. Dell Curry . Maybe his game progresses past that. But all of those players had long productive careers as shooters. Aside from the upside potential of White or Culver - a good shooter inthe NBA is still a good player to have.
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Post#963 » by Frank Lee » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:24 pm

What a quick turn around in the overall confidence of this team.... knowing they can be competitive and go toe to toe with all comers. We may only be a .500 ball club, but at least that means its a 50/50 every night. Good viewing ahead and a stark contrast to last yrs+ sad sack squad.

No need to congradulate the preseason wishful thinking fans....we know who we are (haha) This is good for all.


My concerns have been tempered....by the play of others. My takeaways from the past few games concern the second unit offensive stagnation. Carter doesnt have the handles or vision to run it. I think it would be wise to have Booker paired up with him or at least Saric at a high point forward. JVon has shown enough choatic disruption on the D side to keep his minutes... but he has 2 to 3 possessions of bledsoe like ball pounding and gets sloppy. He has to have others around him who can create/facilitate. He jdoesnt need the ball to be effective.

Got to like CamJo's contribution so far. Sweet music from the deep end. Will be interesting to see how TJerome fits in, if he can get the mins. He might just be pining it for a while.

Obviously, Monte has gotten through to these guys. But I sure wish he had more emotion. He doesnt seem to 'coach' while the game is on. Miss the pacing of Mikey D. Guess its his style. He did yank an entire 5 last night, but about 2-3 minutes too late.

The successful lineups should be rewarded... and the stinkers should be put away for good. I saw posts about keeping 2 of Book/Rubes/Saric on the floor at all times and I am inclined to agree.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#964 » by Flying Colors » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:04 pm

Im raising my expectations for this team, Booker will make a run for MVP this year
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#965 » by handsome salary » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:16 pm

No complaints so far. This team is exceeding every expectation even with dumbass Ayton suspended and the refs giving no respect. Playing as well as any top team in the league. What more can you want to start the season.

Ain't missing you one bit Igor, Josh, TJ or Holmes. Glad to see that dismal and unwatchable brand of basketball gone.

If the Suns keep rolling like this with Ayton out it better light a fire in his ass and put a clue in his head. "Hey #1 pick, see how good they are doing without you!!"

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Post#966 » by spanishninja » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:25 pm

handsome salary wrote:No complaints so far. This team is exceeding every expectation even with dumbass Ayton suspended and the refs giving no respect. Playing as well as any top team in the league. What more can you want to start the season.

Ain't missing you one bit Igor, Josh, TJ or Holmes. Glad to see that dismal and unwatchable brand of basketball gone.

If the Suns keep rolling like this with Ayton out it better light a fire in his ass and put a clue in his head. "Hey #1 pick, see how good they are doing without you!!"


aww, I miss Holmes, and he really shouldn't be lumped in with those other guys you mentioned. but Baynes is simply much more versatile.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#967 » by handsome salary » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:31 pm

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aww, I miss Holmes, and he really shouldn't be lumped in with those other guys you mentioned. but Baynes is simply much more versatile.

Holmes was hustle/energy with not a lot of skill or BBIQ. He could be kinda fun to watch especially after one of Ayton's passive games. Baynes, Saric and Kaminsky though screen, box out, pass, dribble, shoot and contribute well to this system. Night and day.

Booker thinks it's been an upgrade:
“They’ve helped my game out a lot, with the screens that they’re doing,” Booker said of big man additions Aron Baynes, Frank Kaminsky and Dario Saric. “They’re a lot bigger than their position, sealing guys inside, getting those second chance points.”
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Post#968 » by Crives » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:36 pm

Ayton starting to piss me off, I hope we can keep Baynes this summer
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#969 » by Maze » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:37 pm

I've never seen a team play so well, yet get called for so many fouls like this one has.They dominated the Warriors on all levels last night but somehow, like always, the Warriors nearly took double the amount of FT's.I'd understand if it happened every once in a while, but every damn game!? It's ridiculous....
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Post#970 » by Desertfox » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 pm

While I am still not quite a fan of the offseason, looking back at last year, it shouldn't surprise anyone how good we are. Y'all remember that short stretch of games were we beat the full-strength Warriors and the Bucks twice? That team once you added Oubre and a real PG in TJ was legit. The injuries right after derailed any chance for a decent second half of the season and probably cost Igor his job. But this team even last year showed alot of potential, just needed a legit PG and a real PF.

That said, I do still wish we had gone after a PF (Clarke or Washington) or a PG (NAW) in the draft. Jerome looked good, but NAW looks even better.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#971 » by bwgood77 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:20 pm

Desertfox wrote:While I am still not quite a fan of the offseason, looking back at last year, it shouldn't surprise anyone how good we are. Y'all remember that short stretch of games were we beat the full-strength Warriors and the Bucks twice? That team once you added Oubre and a real PG in TJ was legit. The injuries right after derailed any chance for a decent second half of the season and probably cost Igor his job. But this team even last year showed alot of potential, just needed a legit PG and a real PF.

That said, I do still wish we had gone after a PF (Clarke or Washington) or a PG (NAW) in the draft. Jerome looked good, but NAW looks even better.


It's hard to complain given the results, but yeah, I would have liked one of those PFs. Cam is looking smooth with that shot but not sure how much else he adds (though obviously that is important...Bertans almost won the game for his team last night).

Once Bridges gets completely healthy, and Ayton and Jerome come back, Cam might have a tougher time coming by minutes.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#972 » by bwoolf2 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:22 pm

Frank Lee wrote:What a quick turn around in the overall confidence of this team.... knowing they can be competitive and go toe to toe with all comers. We may only be a .500 ball club, but at least that means its a 50/50 every night. Good viewing ahead and a stark contrast to last yrs+ sad sack squad.

No need to congradulate the preseason wishful thinking fans....we know who we are (haha) This is good for all.


My concerns have been tempered....by the play of others. My takeaways from the past few games concern the second unit offensive stagnation. Carter doesnt have the handles or vision to run it. I think it would be wise to have Booker paired up with him or at least Saric at a high point forward. JVon has shown enough choatic disruption on the D side to keep his minutes... but he has 2 to 3 possessions of bledsoe like ball pounding and gets sloppy. He has to have others around him who can create/facilitate. He jdoesnt need the ball to be effective.

Got to like CamJo's contribution so far. Sweet music from the deep end. Will be interesting to see how TJerome fits in, if he can get the mins. He might just be pining it for a while.

Obviously, Monte has gotten through to these guys. But I sure wish he had more emotion. He doesnt seem to 'coach' while the game is on. Miss the pacing of Mikey D. Guess its his style. He did yank an entire 5 last night, but about 2-3 minutes too late.

The successful lineups should be rewarded... and the stinkers should be put away for good. I saw posts about keeping 2 of Book/Rubes/Saric on the floor at all times and I am inclined to agree.


TJerome will take some of Carters minutes on nights like last night, Carter is a bulldog but cant run an offense Jerome is a great passer and orchestrator. He is needed when Ricky sits and we still need to run some offense.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#973 » by spanishninja » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:33 pm

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spanishninja wrote:
aww, I miss Holmes, and he really shouldn't be lumped in with those other guys you mentioned. but Baynes is simply much more versatile.

Holmes was hustle/energy with not a lot of skill or BBIQ. He could be kinda fun to watch especially after one of Ayton's passive games. Baynes, Saric and Kaminsky though screen, box out, pass, dribble, shoot and contribute well to this system. Night and day.


yeah Holmes was definitely raw, I guess it was a tradeoff in a way. If Frank played with the intensity of Holmes he would be perfect.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#974 » by Crives » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:47 pm

Just crunches some numbers, suns are averaging 25.6 FT per game vs 35.2 for our opponents... ridiculous.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#975 » by sunsbg » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:56 pm

Crives wrote:Ayton starting to piss me off, I hope we can keep Baynes this summer


Are you trying to pad your posts number or something ?
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#976 » by Crives » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:12 pm

sunsbg wrote:
Crives wrote:Ayton starting to piss me off, I hope we can keep Baynes this summer


Are you trying to pad your posts number or something ?


What??

With the heavy minutes for Baynes he is proving he can be a solid starter in this league.. I am worried someone steals him next summer.. especially the Hawks.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#977 » by sunsbg » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:30 pm

Crives wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
Crives wrote:Ayton starting to piss me off, I hope we can keep Baynes this summer


Are you trying to pad your posts number or something ?


What??

With the heavy minutes for Baynes he is proving he can be a solid starter in this league.. I am worried someone steals him next summer.. especially the Hawks.


You should follow your recent advice to me and just ... relax. :lol:
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#978 » by spanishninja » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:43 pm

woot Embiid suspended for our game. Simmons gets off without even a fine though despite Latrell Sprewell-ing KAT
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#979 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:03 pm

Flying Colors wrote:Im raising my expectations for this team, Booker will make a run for MVP this year

I'm tempering those expectations but I think all-star is absolutely on the table if this continues
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#980 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:06 pm

handsome salary wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
aww, I miss Holmes, and he really shouldn't be lumped in with those other guys you mentioned. but Baynes is simply much more versatile.

Holmes was hustle/energy with not a lot of skill or BBIQ. He could be kinda fun to watch especially after one of Ayton's passive games. Baynes, Saric and Kaminsky though screen, box out, pass, dribble, shoot and contribute well to this system. Night and day.

Booker thinks it's been an upgrade:
“They’ve helped my game out a lot, with the screens that they’re doing,” Booker said of big man additions Aron Baynes, Frank Kaminsky and Dario Saric. “They’re a lot bigger than their position, sealing guys inside, getting those second chance points.”

Don't disagree with you regarding Holmes's weaknesses in general but I felt like we could've used that hustle, energy and athleticism in this past game against he Warriors. I think he would've matched up super well against the Warrior's best player in the last game (Paschall).

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