So Miami really just rebuilt their squad in 1 offseason without assets and over the cap?

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Re: So Miami really just rebuilt their squad in 1 offseason without assets and over the cap? 

Post#21 » by Firespo » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:36 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes.

Tell that to a team like the knicks :roll:
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Post#22 » by RoyceDa59 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:38 pm

Nunn has been a pleasant surprise.


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Post#23 » by Johnny Bball » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:38 pm

Firespo wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:Even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes.

Tell that to a team like the knicks :roll:


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Post#24 » by Eyeamok » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:40 pm

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1. show pictures of women on Miami beach to free agent
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Don't forget the babies the mamma drama to follow....and that all important child support.

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Post#25 » by BaffLer » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:41 pm

Just praying the Heat can continue to play well. These next few games are about to be a nice test for them.

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Post#26 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:42 pm

Its early, but they look good.

I also think Nunn ends up closer to a elite 6th man than a true star.

But man, did they manage to build one hell of a 'next man up' type of squad. Love that. They are going to be a menace this season.
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Re: So Miami really just rebuilt their squad in 1 offseason without assets and over the cap? 

Post#27 » by TMU » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:43 pm

Nunn winning rookie of the year over Zion will make a better story.
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Post#28 » by cjx » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:46 pm

Nunn > Kyrie

Nunn > Westbrook

Your 2019-20 Eastern Conference All-Star Starters: G Kendrick Nunn, G Brogdon, F $picy P Siakam, F Giannis and Embiid

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Re: So Miami really just rebuilt their squad in 1 offseason without assets and over the cap? 

Post#29 » by Dupp » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:52 pm

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Dupp wrote:They’re looking good atm but prior to this off season they’ve been run very very poorly for a while.


Acquisition and tenure of Lebron with a team calls for the team to mortgage their future. Future picks and young prospects are dealt away to acquire LeBron and build a contending team. It was only natural for the Heat to struggle dealing with the vacancy once he left--add on Chris Bosh taking up ~$30M in cap while being medically unable to play for a couple years and it was a rather precarious situation.

The Heat's rebuild post-LeBron is better than most team's rebuild once an elite superstar leaves them with nothing in return.



Not really they handed out a bunch of really bad contracts and kept themselves treadmilling for 5 years with very average players for 5 years.

They’ve had draft picks.
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Post#30 » by NBAFan93 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:53 pm

And if Trae Young hadn’t got injured they would probably be 2-3 instead of 4-1 right now. They have one “good win” against the Bucks. Let’s see them play some more games before we start calling these guys stars.
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Post#31 » by DBurks2818 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:08 pm

Dupp wrote:
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Dupp wrote:They’re looking good atm but prior to this off season they’ve been run very very poorly for a while.


Acquisition and tenure of Lebron with a team calls for the team to mortgage their future. Future picks and young prospects are dealt away to acquire LeBron and build a contending team. It was only natural for the Heat to struggle dealing with the vacancy once he left--add on Chris Bosh taking up ~$30M in cap while being medically unable to play for a couple years and it was a rather precarious situation.

The Heat's rebuild post-LeBron is better than most team's rebuild once an elite superstar leaves them with nothing in return.



Not really they handed out a bunch of really bad contracts and kept themselves treadmilling for 5 years with very average players for 5 years.

They’ve had draft picks.


Nah, it hasn't been a bunch of bad contracts. Only Waiters has been a bad one, with JJ a little overpaid as well but more reasonable since he's still a solid rotation player when healthy. I might give you Whiteside as well. Olynyk has been a solid contract. Rich an excellent one. Winslow an excellent one.

And they've hit on those draft picks. How is that bad management when they've all been good picks? Winslow, Richardson, Bam, Herro. All good picks.

Finally, they were 1 game away from making the playoffs the year after losing LeBron. They won 48 and were a win away from the ECF the very next season without Bosh, and the next year again a tiebreak away from the playoffs after losing D.Wade, again made the playoffs the next season, and were only 2 games away from making it this past season. This is with one of the unluckiest injury streaks in the league (Bosh, Waiters, and virtually everyone else on the team between those playoffs years) and constant roster reshuffling so that they didn't have to tank.

I think you're wrong on this one, Dupp. I'd at least revise "very, very poorly."
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Post#32 » by BFRESH44 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:09 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:And if Trae Young hadn’t got injured they would probably be 2-3 instead of 4-1 right now. They have one “good win” against the Bucks. Let’s see them play some more games before we start calling these guys stars.


Oh brother. You post this like Jimmy Butler didn’t miss the first 3 games on paternity leave.
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Post#33 » by igorbianch » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:11 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:And if Trae Young hadn’t got injured they would probably be 2-3 instead of 4-1 right now. They have one “good win” against the Bucks. Let’s see them play some more games before we start calling these guys stars.


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Re: So Miami really just rebuilt their squad in 1 offseason without assets and over the cap? 

Post#34 » by DBurks2818 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:12 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:And if Trae Young hadn’t got injured they would probably be 2-3 instead of 4-1 right now. They have one “good win” against the Bucks. Let’s see them play some more games before we start calling these guys stars.


Nope, they were locking Trae up until he got hurt. Don't forget the Heat lost their starting PG (Winslow) to injury also, and he wasn't playing last night either. Do we continue to play the 'If' game and say that 'If' Wiggins doesn't break out of a 2-10 slump to hit 4 threes in a row down the stretch, the Heat win that game? I think they do. What about the fact that the team's best player, Jimmy Butler, missed the first 3 games of the season? Does Wiggins go off like that with Butler guarding him? I doubt it.

At worst the team is 3-2 right now, not 2-3.
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Post#35 » by LofJ » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:14 pm

The Heat are one player away from joining the top tier of the East. I hate the Heat because they've largely owned my Hornets since both were expansion teams in the late 80's, but I respect the hell out of that organization. They're what I wish the Hornets could become.
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Post#36 » by Karate Diop » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:19 pm

Nunn has played well but these fluke statistical occurrences happen a lot at the start and end of seasons before teams adequately game plan for an unknown player's NBA skillset and / or a known player's new and improved skillset / tendencies.
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Re: So Miami really just rebuilt their squad in 1 offseason without assets and over the cap? 

Post#37 » by Firespo » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:20 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
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Johnny Bball wrote:Even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes.

Tell that to a team like the knicks :roll:


Blind, not crippled.

Lmao good answer.
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Post#38 » by CoreyGallagher » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:22 pm

TMU wrote:Nunn winning rookie of the year over Zion will make a better story.

Well, a surprise, at least
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Post#39 » by NBAFan93 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:27 pm

DBurks2818 wrote:
Dupp wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
Acquisition and tenure of Lebron with a team calls for the team to mortgage their future. Future picks and young prospects are dealt away to acquire LeBron and build a contending team. It was only natural for the Heat to struggle dealing with the vacancy once he left--add on Chris Bosh taking up ~$30M in cap while being medically unable to play for a couple years and it was a rather precarious situation.

The Heat's rebuild post-LeBron is better than most team's rebuild once an elite superstar leaves them with nothing in return.



Not really they handed out a bunch of really bad contracts and kept themselves treadmilling for 5 years with very average players for 5 years.

They’ve had draft picks.


Nah, it hasn't been a bunch of bad contracts. Only Waiters has been a bad one, with JJ a little overpaid as well but more reasonable since he's still a solid rotation player when healthy. I might give you Whiteside as well. Olynyk has been a solid contract. Rich an excellent one. Winslow an excellent one.

And they've hit on those draft picks. How is that bad management when they've all been good picks? Winslow, Richardson, Bam, Herro. All good picks.

Finally, they were 1 game away from making the playoffs the year after losing LeBron. They won 48 and were a win away from the ECF the very next season without Bosh, and the next year again a tiebreak away from the playoffs after losing D.Wade, again made the playoffs the next season, and were only 2 games away from making it this past season. This is with one of the unluckiest injury streaks in the league (Bosh, Waiters, and virtually everyone else on the team between those playoffs years) and constant roster reshuffling so that they didn't have to tank.

I think you're wrong on this one, Dupp. I'd at least revise "very, very poorly."


I agree with Dupp. They’ve had one of the worst collection of contracts in the league for the past 3-4 years. They had a contender payroll while fighting for the 8th seed - you never want to do that. People give them a pass cause it’s Riley, but if that were one of the less popular FOs they’d be a joke.

Getting lucky on an undrafted guy (which was exactly what happened w/ Whiteside and look how that ended up for them eventually) and a low lottery pick just doesn’t negate all that to me. And so far their wins have been Grizzles, Bucks and Atlanta w/o Trae Young twice. They lost to the Wolves. Not exactly a convincing sample size - yet.
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Post#40 » by lakerz12 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:33 pm

Brandon Jennings averaged 25/4/5 in his first 11 NBA games. He was a future star.

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