Around the League - 2019-2020

[Sixerscan]

Sucks to be a bucks fan.

Team is maxed out. Sixers looks upgraded, their’s look like it took a step back. Giannis shows some signs of leaving. Brogdon looking more like steve nash 2.0 than some accountant working at dunder mifflin

I think they'll probably still be fine and contending for a title in the playoffs. Wouldn't surprise me if they don't have the same desire to roll through the regular season like last year though. There tends to be a bit of a hangover for teams that are like that then blow a series with home court in the playoffs the year before. Particularly with Giannis, he has his MVP, lost to a guy that load managed all year, is he really going to get up for every regular season game after that?

It's sort of the risk you run when you don't add some new piece to the team in the off season, stuff gets stale after a while. If I were running the Bucks I would look into using Ilyasova's expiring and Wilson or another one of their young guys to trade for someone just to shake things up.

[the_process]

Curry out 3 months. So GSW is heading for the Great Tank Year so they can get a high pick and use it and Russell to restock the superstar cupboard.

[Kobblehead]

Are we sure Bucks GM Jon Horst is good?

- Had the #17th pick in consecutive drafts in 2016 and 2017 and came away with D.J. Wilson and Donte DiVincenzo. Neither of which have been able to even sniff the rotation.
- Traded a 2021 1st round pick for George Hill
- Gave out high premium, longterm contracts to Khris Middleton and Eric Bledsoe
- Traded Malcolm Brogdon away to a team in the division.

Giannis and his team have to be leery about re-signing there. Especially if they have the self-awareness to realize that he's not good enough to drive a team to a championship without a star level scorer next to him.

[Sixerscan]

Are we sure Bucks GM Jon Horst is good?

- Had the #17th pick in consecutive drafts in 2016 and 2017 and came away with D.J. Wilson and Donte DiVincenzo. Neither of which have been able to even sniff the rotation.
- Traded a 2021 1st round pick for George Hill
- Gave out high premium, longterm contracts to Khris Middleton and Eric Bledsoe
- Traded Malcolm Brogdon away to a team in the division.

Giannis and his team have to be leery about re-signing there. Especially if they have the self-awareness to realize that he's not good enough to drive a team to a championship without a star level scorer next to him.

He pitched close to a perfect game in 2018 free agency, passing on Parker (many GMs wouldn't have given up on him) signing Lopez, Ersan and Connaughton. 2019 less so, especially the order of operations that ended up with them basically having Bledsoe instead of Brogdon.

Part of the issue is that he's had to spend so many assets to get under the tax because he contracts he inherited which almost certainly isn't his call. Like the FRP for Hill was really about getting off Delly and Henson, both of which were signed under Hammond (granted Horst was his #2 so who knows what his role in that was).

[Sixerscan]

I liked what I saw out of Bitadze for Indy. Not gonna be a star or anything but he can play.

TJ made a few plays and got a standing ovation, was nice to see.

[PLO]

Mavs Lakers is a fun game but the D is about All-Star game level. In fact the D across the league is pretty bad at the moment: makes it hard to judge some of these early-season offensive outputs.

[76ciology]

Mavs Lakers is a fun game but the D is about All-Star game level. In fact the D across the league is pretty bad at the moment: makes it hard to judge some of these early-season offensive outputs.

After what Ive seen during the Hawks game, its kind of tough to play good defense during the regular season. Its as if the league wants the games to trend toward the allstar type intensity

[Sixerscan]

Mavs Lakers is a fun game but the D is about All-Star game level. In fact the D across the league is pretty bad at the moment: makes it hard to judge some of these early-season offensive outputs.

After what Ive seen during the Hawks game, its kind of tough to play good defense during the regular season. Its as if the league wants the games to trend toward the allstar type intensity

If Lebron made an effort to deny Doncic the ball like Simmons/JRich/Thybulle did Young in the Hawks game this is no contest.

[76ciology]

Lakers is just a 2 man team. Hell, if you can slow down AD I dont think LBJ is still good enough to carry them

[76ciology]

That was good offense and a good shot by Bradley

[76ciology]

Bad call by carlisle to put seth in the game

[76ciology]

Dwight pulled seth. Watch

[BigSleep333]

another good example today why you absolutely have to foul up 3 with a few seconds left with the other team having no more timeouts left. mavs would have won that easily except a very improbable offboard after an intentional missed freethrow.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

How many times have we seen it in the nba? A player like Giannis signs his second contract with a small market team, and the clock just starts ticking on him.

This is why teams need to tank while they can. The Bucks didn’t do it, and now they are stuck with one superstar, and if they can’t win with him before this contract ends they will lose him because they are capped out.


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The Bucks did tank, it's just that they picked Jabari over Embiid.

No, they were just bad. They needed to tank seriously without blowing money on free agents, and getting top 5 picks for a few years.

They aren’t a free agent destination so they needed to draft their own stars. If Parker would have hit it would be a lot better, but they needed more chances.


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They wouldn't have needed to tank if they drafted Embiid instead of Jabari, they just blew it in that draft, and it's not like Jabari was viewed as the better prospect. Everyone knew Embiid was the best player in that draft, they didn't have the patience to wait on him to get healthy, at no point was Parker really projected to be on Embiid's level, it was just the "safe" pick play that turned out to be horribly wrong on all levels.

Just think of how good that team would be with Middleton as a third option and Embiid + Giannis as a frontcourt, nobody really talks about that Jabari over Embiid pick, but it could have made them champions already.

[76ciology]

The Bucks did tank, it's just that they picked Jabari over Embiid.

No, they were just bad. They needed to tank seriously without blowing money on free agents, and getting top 5 picks for a few years.

They aren’t a free agent destination so they needed to draft their own stars. If Parker would have hit it would be a lot better, but they needed more chances.


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They wouldn't have needed to tank if they drafted Embiid instead of Jabari, they just blew it in that draft, and it's not like Jabari was viewed as the better prospect. Everyone knew Embiid was the best player in that draft, they didn't have the patience to wait on him to get healthy, at no point was Parker really projected to be on Embiid's level, it was just the "safe" pick play that turned out to be horribly wrong on all levels.

Just think of how good that team would be with Middleton as a third option and Embiid + Giannis as a frontcourt, nobody really talks about that Jabari over Embiid pick, but it could have made them champions already.

We passed up on Giannis twice. We could had Embiid and Giannis also, instead of selecting two journeymen in the lottery.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

No, they were just bad. They needed to tank seriously without blowing money on free agents, and getting top 5 picks for a few years.

They aren’t a free agent destination so they needed to draft their own stars. If Parker would have hit it would be a lot better, but they needed more chances.


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They wouldn't have needed to tank if they drafted Embiid instead of Jabari, they just blew it in that draft, and it's not like Jabari was viewed as the better prospect. Everyone knew Embiid was the best player in that draft, they didn't have the patience to wait on him to get healthy, at no point was Parker really projected to be on Embiid's level, it was just the "safe" pick play that turned out to be horribly wrong on all levels.

Just think of how good that team would be with Middleton as a third option and Embiid + Giannis as a frontcourt, nobody really talks about that Jabari over Embiid pick, but it could have made them champions already.

We passed up on Giannis twice. We could had Embiid and Giannis also, instead of selecting two journeymen in the lottery.

That's a little more understandable, he was a big unknown in that draft in terms of talent and went outside the lottery. The Jabari vs Embiid pick is inexcusable in the sense that Embiid was the runaway number 1 pick until he got hurt, passing on that type of player is just crazy especially since they took Giannis the year before and he was a forward and Jabari was a forward.

[76ciology]

Bucks got big hole at SG. Wes Matthews? That guy is done.

Tobias Harris’ eyes better lit up if he sees him defending him.

[Ericb5]

The Bucks did tank, it's just that they picked Jabari over Embiid.

No, they were just bad. They needed to tank seriously without blowing money on free agents, and getting top 5 picks for a few years.

They aren’t a free agent destination so they needed to draft their own stars. If Parker would have hit it would be a lot better, but they needed more chances.


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They wouldn't have needed to tank if they drafted Embiid instead of Jabari, they just blew it in that draft, and it's not like Jabari was viewed as the better prospect. Everyone knew Embiid was the best player in that draft, they didn't have the patience to wait on him to get healthy, at no point was Parker really projected to be on Embiid's level, it was just the "safe" pick play that turned out to be horribly wrong on all levels.

Just think of how good that team would be with Middleton as a third option and Embiid + Giannis as a frontcourt, nobody really talks about that Jabari over Embiid pick, but it could have made them champions already.

I don’t blame Cleveland or Millwaukee for passing on Embiid given his injury at the time. That was a scary injury, and they had two high value options left to draft.

Hinkie is the one that had the balls to take him at 3.


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[76ciology]

If you ask me, Giannis is just playing Raptors and is just using them as leverage. I expect Warriors to go hard on him.

[Kobblehead]

The Warriors aren't cool anymore and are due for a downturn. Plus, they have a bad cap situation, going forward. They're done in terms of basketball relevance for at least a half decade.