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darmani · Post #101 » by **darmani** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 10:34 am

darmani · Post #102 » by **darmani** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 10:36 am

Ariza 0 points in 32 minutes, 0 FGA. What was Vlade thinking?

sunsbg · Post #103 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 11:26 am

Bogyo wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Goga finally got some minutes and played well. A lot of blocks.

And DAMN, some monster stat lines in that Lakers/Mavs game...AD with the usual stuff, but LeBron and Luka...crazy. Fairly similar lines...and neither are usually good FT shooters but tonight they were.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401160716

Nice win for the Kings tonight too.

Watched it and wow... I just don't see how Luka does not end up with multiple rings in his career with Cuban as an owner, who will do everything to get rings if he has a chance. So injury to him (or his high caliber teammates, yes I m looking at 7'3 Porzingis's knees) is pretty much the only thing that can prevent him of getting 2-3 rings in a 12-15 year carreer.

Yup, entertaining game and Mr "NBA is too easy for me" turned out better than anyone anticipated except maybe a few die-hard fans o f his. Still need to see how he does in later stages of the season(and career) with such huge usage. D against quicker players is not good (Lillard/Lebron in last games) and if I was a coach I would exploit it in the playoffs to get him tired, so these step back 3s stop going in.

Also good the Suns will have 5-6 titles in that span.

Post #104 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 2:12 pm

Bogyo wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Goga finally got some minutes and played well. A lot of blocks.

And DAMN, some monster stat lines in that Lakers/Mavs game...AD with the usual stuff, but LeBron and Luka...crazy. Fairly similar lines...and neither are usually good FT shooters but tonight they were.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401160716

Nice win for the Kings tonight too.

Watched it and wow... I just don't see how Luka does not end up with multiple rings in his career with Cuban as an owner, who will do everything to get rings if he has a chance. So injury to him (or his high caliber teammates, yes I m looking at 7'3 Porzingis's knees) is pretty much the only thing that can prevent him of getting 2-3 rings in a 12-15 year carreer.

He likely will, but so many things have to go right. I truly do believe Ayton will have huge impact as well, but being the guy with the ball in his hands, like Luka is huge, because you have so much more ability to control the game. Now if the Ayton defensive guy we saw in the opener is any indication, along with how efficient he is, if he improves on his assists and especially 3s (though defense still the biggest priority) I think he can be a top 3-5 C in this league. Currently Jokic, Embiid and Towns are a tall tall order to top, because they all excel at different things, Embiid defensively and just a huge diffence maker, running the offense through Jokic and him being the best passing big man ever, along with a 3 pt shot, etc, you can just surround him with shooters, and then Towns likely being the best shooting true big man ever, but also a big time passer along with filling up the stat sheeting with boards and steals.

Ayton will have to get to elite status to get to the level of those guys, so I'll be happy with top 4 or 5 with him.

And to be honest, I was worried about Luka's coexistence with Book, though I do believe you should take the guy most likely to be a super star with that killer instinct.

I do think many believe I had a separation between them higher than I did, and to some extent I did with killer instinct and game impact, but with the makeup of our team and knowing Booker wasn't going anywhere, I had Luka only slightly ahead, with JJJ and Trae right behind them. I see all 4 showing huge impact in different ways. But it will likely take the bigs a little longer since they have less control and rely on other teams for offense.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #105 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 3:38 pm

darmani wrote:Ariza 0 points in 32 minutes, 0 FGA. What was Vlade thinking?

That's a great question. Im not sure how anyone could have watched Ariza last year and thought it was a good idea to add him to a young team or really any team for that matter. He looked washed up and he had Tim Thomas after getting paid level of just mailing it in.

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WeekapaugGroove · Post #106 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 3:41 pm

Crives wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Speaking of struggling Darius Garland 0 for 10 tonight. It's reasonable it will take him some time to get his feet under him but he's had a brutal start overall.

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I feel bad for the Cavs. New lottery odds really hurt.

Garland still might end up being good but it's looking like it will be a bumpy ride early. Its a good thing he didn't end up in Phoenix because I just don't think this fan base would have been able to handle him trying to figure out how to play.

Oh and I don't feel bad for Cavs fans at all, they got a chip and knew they were going rebuild after that. Other than the fact that Sexton is probably a weird fit this might be the best spot for Garland because he's on a team that should have the patience to go through his growing pains.

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Post #107 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 3:48 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
darmani wrote:Ariza 0 points in 32 minutes, 0 FGA. What was Vlade thinking?
That's a great question. Im not sure how anyone could have watched Ariza last year and thought it was a good idea to add him to a young team or really any team for that matter. He looked washed up and he had Tim Thomas after getting paid level of just mailing it in.

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Getting rid of their coach was dumb. They added some other decent vets in Joseph (though overpaid) and Holmes, but Ariza was unnecessary. Funny he is under Igor though, because I think he hated him.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #108 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sat Nov 2, 2019 4:28 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
darmani wrote:Ariza 0 points in 32 minutes, 0 FGA. What was Vlade thinking?
That's a great question. Im not sure how anyone could have watched Ariza last year and thought it was a good idea to add him to a young team or really any team for that matter. He looked washed up and he had Tim Thomas after getting paid level of just mailing it in.

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Getting rid of their coach was dumb. They added some other decent vets in Joseph (though overpaid) and Holmes, but Ariza was unnecessary. Funny he is under Igor though, because I think he hated him.

Yeah they probably should have found a way to make it work with Dave Jeager but he's not without fault in that situation because he's 2 for 2 in not getting along with management and that's part of the job.

The kings remind me of the suns after the 48 win season. Some regression was to be expected. They also added guys that while on paper seem to add to the talent level but they might have upset the ballance of the group. They have a situation with Bogdan, buddy and Barnes got paid and Ariza was also brought in crowding the wing situation. Bogdan wants to start and wants to get paid this coming summer and probably doesn't see a path to that with the kings.

Plus the clearest path for the kings to take a step forward this season was Bagley blowing up and in true kings luck he breaks his hand game one.

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starbosa10 · Post #109 » by **starbosa10** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 2:36 am

Ayton needs to reach KAT/ Embiid level for me to stop pining over Luka lol

WeekapaugGroove · Post #110 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 2:51 am

starbosa10 wrote:Ayton needs to reach KAT/ Embiid level for me to stop pining over Luka lol

Unless you're Ryan McDonoughs burner might as well just put it behind you because it wasn't your call on the pick. Just enjoy both guys.

If you are Ryan McDonough then **** you and you should feel bad

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Crives · Post #111 » by **Crives** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 3:17 am

Read on Twitter

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Portland depth was already very limited, will be interesting, they can’t afford any more injuries now.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #112 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 3:34 am

Crives wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Portland depth was already very limited, will be interesting, they can’t afford any more injuries now.

I don't think they could afford that one. They basically just have Whiteside and Skal left as real bigs.

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Crives · Post #113 » by **Crives** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 3:37 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Crives wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Portland depth was already very limited, will be interesting, they can’t afford any more injuries now.
I don't think they could afford that one. They basically just have Whiteside and Skal left as real bigs.

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And apparently Whiteside is out due to knees... i

Damkac · Post #114 » by **Damkac** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 5:41 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
starbosa10 wrote:Ayton needs to reach KAT/ Embiid level for me to stop pining over Luka lol
Unless you're Ryan McDonoughs burner might as well just put it behind you because it wasn't your call on the pick. Just enjoy both guys.

If you are Ryan McDonough then **** you and you should feel bad
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Ayton needs to become DPOY candidate to justify picking him over Doncic while still geting tons of rebounds and scoring efficiently. Luka's impact on offense is to big for Ayton to match so he needs to make just as great impact on defense.

BTW I wonder if Suns had JJ as GM a year ago would he pick Luka 1st. He seems like exactly the type of player that JJ loves and JJ isn't biased against white/euro players.

handsome salary · Post #115 » by **handsome salary** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 5:57 pm

Warriors with 30 nationally televised games. Is the NBA gonna rethink a lot of those games being showcased now?

Bogyo · Post #116 » by **Bogyo** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 6:03 pm

handsome salary wrote:Warriors with 30 nationally televised games. Is the NBA gonna rethink a lot of those games being showcased now?

Same with Pelicans?

Post #117 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 6:20 pm

Bogyo wrote:
handsome salary wrote:Warriors with 30 nationally televised games. Is the NBA gonna rethink a lot of those games being showcased now?

Same with Pelicans?

No, when Zion is back they will be a big draw.

Crives · Post #118 » by **Crives** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 11:39 pm

Might have sounded crazy in the offseason, but I really think we can be better then Houston/Portland this year.

Post #119 » by **lilfishi22** » Sun Nov 3, 2019 11:44 pm

Crives wrote:Might have sounded crazy in the offseason, but I really think we can be better then Houston/Portland this year.

I'm not sure about Houston because I do think once they get more into a rhythm, they are just gonna torch a bunch of teams behind MDA's offense and two ex-MVP's in Harden and Westbrook. I don't think they are as good as they were a couple of seasons ago when they had good wing depth but I still think they will be hard to beat because Harden and Westbrook are still a force. Portland, I have a little lower because Lillard and CJ is easier to slow down and if you can slow down one of them then you could overwhelm them with our depth.

Post #120 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Nov 4, 2019 12:18 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Crives wrote:Might have sounded crazy in the offseason, but I really think we can be better then Houston/Portland this year.

I'm not sure about Houston because I do think once they get more into a rhythm, they are just gonna torch a bunch of teams behind MDA's offense and two ex-MVP's in Harden and Westbrook. I don't think they are as good as they were a couple of seasons ago when they had good wing depth but I still think they will be hard to beat because Harden and Westbrook are still a force. Portland, I have a little lower because Lillard and CJ is easier to slow down and if you can slow down one of them then you could overwhelm them with our depth.

Speaking of Houston, they are losing by 25 to Miami at the half. Bam not doing much and Winslow not even playing and they are still killing them.