Sophmores, 2020-21 – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko

[Homerclease]

Langford hadn't the chance to play and prove it unlike edwards.

Well, that's what practices are for, right? My guess is that he's not even playing that well in practice to warrant a roster spot over Green, who has played a whopping 1.4 mpg this season.

Both of you are offbase, IMHO.

Green can't be sent to the Red Claws. So he's the de facto 3rd string wing no matter how well he's playing.

Carsen has only Wanamaker in the mix with him for minutes as the bench guard, pseudo PG next to Smart. Guarding PGs is the main function of that role and Carsen is better suited for that than Romeo.

Romeo has 6th man Smart, whichever of Jaylen/Gordo stays with the bench from the starting group and Semi ahead of him as bench wings.

There aren't any minutes there right now.

Or, more realistically, Smart is going to miss 10+ games for wear and tear and Brad will need another ball-handling guard for the 2nd unit and they'll call up Romeo for spot minutes.

Why can’t Green be sent to Maine?

[Slartibartfast]

Well, that's what practices are for, right? My guess is that he's not even playing that well in practice to warrant a roster spot over Green, who has played a whopping 1.4 mpg this season.

Both of you are offbase, IMHO.

Green can't be sent to the Red Claws. So he's the de facto 3rd string wing no matter how well he's playing.

Carsen has only Wanamaker in the mix with him for minutes as the bench guard, pseudo PG next to Smart. Guarding PGs is the main function of that role and Carsen is better suited for that than Romeo.

Romeo has 6th man Smart, whichever of Jaylen/Gordo stays with the bench from the starting group and Semi ahead of him as bench wings.

There aren't any minutes there right now.

Or, more realistically, Smart is going to miss 10+ games for wear and tear and Brad will need another ball-handling guard for the 2nd unit and they'll call up Romeo for spot minutes.

Why can’t Green be sent to Maine?

Just looked that up and I might have misinterpreted. He can't be signed by the Claws if we waive him.

Maybe we can send him down now that he's on the roster. Any one know?

[Homerclease]

Both of you are offbase, IMHO.

Green can't be sent to the Red Claws. So he's the de facto 3rd string wing no matter how well he's playing.

Carsen has only Wanamaker in the mix with him for minutes as the bench guard, pseudo PG next to Smart. Guarding PGs is the main function of that role and Carsen is better suited for that than Romeo.

Romeo has 6th man Smart, whichever of Jaylen/Gordo stays with the bench from the starting group and Semi ahead of him as bench wings.

There aren't any minutes there right now.

Or, more realistically, Smart is going to miss 10+ games for wear and tear and Brad will need another ball-handling guard for the 2nd unit and they'll call up Romeo for spot minutes.

Why can’t Green be sent to Maine?

Just looked that up and I might have misinterpreted. He can't be signed by the Claws if we waive him.

Maybe we can send him down now that he's on the roster. Any one know?

That was my impression, we can send up to three players off the active roster to Maine for essentially anything we want, anytime we want

[Bleeding Green]

It's not just the shots not falling. He's not giving us anything out there. Give his minutes to Green, and let Edwards get up to speed with a lot of G league minutes.

Would you say this if Edwards were like 9/22 instead of 5/22?

Nope, as his other stats aren't good, either. I also don't like his body language on the bench. He claps a little, but I've seen him on the bench when big plays are made and he's emotionless at times. Almost looks like he might be peeved that he's not getting minutes. Give him minutes, just in Maine.

But scoring has to be a factor, too. How many other 5'11" guards are getting minutes in the league who aren't scoring?

He's going to be a scoring guard. If you want your scoring guard to score, you want him to shoot. If you're going to sit him down over whether he misses like 4 more shots than expected in a 22 shot sample, then you may as well just release him or never draft anyone else ever and just forfeit the franchise.

inb4 he goes 10/11 from 3 in Maine and you say, "gee why did they waste his shots in Maine?"

lmao body language

[Gant]

Brad Stevens on the decision to send Langford to Maine. (Which makes sense. Romeo needs to get on the court.):

Stevens said. “So I just think he needs reps. We think he could really help us, and this is the first step to doing that, I think.”

Stevens was referencing the team’s decision to send Langford to the G-League for the time being in order to keep the rookie on the court. Langford has had a tough start to his rookie season through no fault of his own. First, Langford missed Summer League as he recovered from thumb surgery in April. Then he tweaked his groin at the start of training camp, forcing him to sit for another stretch. When he returned, he slipped on a wet spot and went down awkwardly -- spraining his knee and causing him to miss the start of the season.

"It’s kind of frustrating,” Langford told MassLive after his knee injury. “I finally get better, and then another little dumb injury. But it’s fine.”

“I think the biggest thing was we were just weighing, is it better to go practice for a full week, get ready to play, or is it better to be available for really, really spotty minutes?” Stevens said. “And it just makes sense based on the amount of time he missed early on. And then the knee thing happening and then he missed more time. So we just need him to get as many reps as possible.”

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/11/boston-celtics-rookie-romeo-langford-heads-to-maine-after-shining-for-celtics-as-giannis-antetokounmpo-in-practice.html

[Parliament10]

Why can’t Green be sent to Maine?

Just looked that up and I might have misinterpreted. He can't be signed by the Claws if we waive him.

Maybe we can send him down now that he's on the roster. Any one know?

That was my impression, we can send up to three players off the active roster to Maine for essentially anything we want, anytime we want

As far as I know it's up to 4 players at a time. But no more than 2, at any one position (PG, SG, etc.).
And Green is eligible. Anyone with under 3 years of NBA service can be sent down.

Any player with over 3 years, would have to go down voluntarily.

[AKFO]

Green is 26 years old. Why would we send him to Maine?

[Green89]

Would you say this if Edwards were like 9/22 instead of 5/22?

Nope, as his other stats aren't good, either. I also don't like his body language on the bench. He claps a little, but I've seen him on the bench when big plays are made and he's emotionless at times. Almost looks like he might be peeved that he's not getting minutes. Give him minutes, just in Maine.

But scoring has to be a factor, too. How many other 5'11" guards are getting minutes in the league who aren't scoring?

He's going to be a scoring guard. If you want your scoring guard to score, you want him to shoot. If you're going to sit him down over whether he misses like 4 more shots than expected in a 22 shot sample, then you may as well just release him or never draft anyone else ever and just forfeit the franchise.

inb4 he goes 10/11 from 3 in Maine and you say, "gee why did they waste his shots in Maine?"

lmao body language

Even 5'11" guards who have the ability to score have a tough time staying in the league. Ones that don't score have zero shot. Your argument would be stronger if he had size, like how they gave James Young a multi year experiment. Carsen doesn't have that to fall back on. If he can't hit his shots against NBA defenders, he's not going to last. The G-league could help him work on that. Your against a G league stint, but the C's sent James Young, RJ Hunter, and plenty of other players to Maine to get reps, why not Carsen?

[Bleeding Green]

They believed in him before he took 22 NBA shots. What changed? He missed a few shots more than you'd like. If that's enough to stop using him, then you shouldn't have drafted him. If the line for failure/success is so razor-thin that ~5 made baskets changes your mind? Oof.

If that's the case, then just fold the franchise, because you can't look past a few games and you'll never win a championship again.

Plus they can only have so many people in Maine.

[Parliament10]

All our Rookies played well, earlier tonight.
Langford, Waters & Fall with the Red Claws. And G. Williams & Edwards with the Celtics.

[return2glory]

Watch on YouTube

Langford and Waters with big games.

[FlatearthZorro]

Damn, both Langford and Waters looked great and Waters has looked great in the pre-season. Wonder if Brad gives one of them a chance during the absence of Hayward.

[zoyathedestroya]

Individual highlights for those who missed the game:

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[24istheLAW]

Tremont Waters going 7/11 from 3 point distance is huuuuuuge. He's gonna have a long NBA career if he can shoot the 3.

[bfchs123]

I know it's the G-League but Langford looks like a man among boys and should be in the NBA.

Smooth pull-up, great control with the ball, sees openings in the defense, and can apparently block shots and be an active defender. He's a lottery pick at a position where we just lost a key contributor. He needs to be on the NBA roster and getting 15-20 min a game

[cloverleaf]

I know it's the G-League but Langford looks like a man among boys and should be in the NBA.

Smooth pull-up, great control with the ball, sees openings in the defense, and can apparently block shots and be an active defender. He's a lottery pick at a position where we just lost a key contributor. He needs to be on the NBA roster and getting 15-20 min a game

That depends on where his D is at the NBA level. But great to see his game looking so sharp. A good sign indeed.

[Parliament10]

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IDK if he's going back to the Maine Red Claws.
But, we can at least use him for these next 2 Games, with the big club.

[Gant]

The shifting Celtics rookie power rankings:

1. - Grant Williams. The only rookie to make the regular rotation.
2. ↑ Javonte Green. His dynamism, defense, steady production, and Hayward's misfortune seem to have him on verge of a regular role.
3. ↑ Tremont Waters. Has done nothing but impress since day 1. Now he has a reliable 3 point shot?
4. ↑ Romeo Langford. 27 points, 5 rebounds, 6 blocks, and 2 assists in his first extended run as a professional.
5. - Tacko Fall. He looked good last night, showing a little bit of ball-handling, some good conditioning, and just making everybody wonder what he can become.
6. ↓ Carsen Edwards. It's been an inconsistent couple of weeks for Edwards. He'll torch people when he relaxes and finds his spots. Better defense would give him a chance to stay on the floor.
7. ↓ Vincent Poirier. He's had a rough go in very spotty minutes. He's moved well, but has no comfort on the offensive end right now.

[24istheLAW]

It's obviously better if he has good games rather than bad games, but IMO people need to pay attention to Langford's actual development and not the numbers.

Kid was the best slasher in the country. He's playing in the G-league where no one plays help defense. Of course he's gonna score.

It's more about 1) comfort catching and shooting 2) activity 3) defensive awareness.

[Fencer reregistered]

I know it's the G-League but Langford looks like a man among boys and should be in the NBA.

So does anybody who does more than jog, it would seem.