2019-20 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#321 » by GSP » Mon Nov 4, 2019 8:31 pm

E-Balla wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:Why is the Jazz offense so bad? Their top players aren't really bad offensive players.

It's 7 games in, Conley looked terrible most games so far, and they were only the 15th ranked offense last year so they weren't far above average anyway. They'll get back to around league average by the end of the season.


If theyre at the same level offensively as last season thatd be damning and a large disappointment. Going from Rubio/Favors to Conley/Bogie shouldve seen them pushing for a top 10 offense this season, not the same caliber as last, specially since Dmitch seems to have made the jump
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#322 » by Dr Spaceman » Mon Nov 4, 2019 9:21 pm

GSP wrote:
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MisterHibachi wrote:Why is the Jazz offense so bad? Their top players aren't really bad offensive players.

It's 7 games in, Conley looked terrible most games so far, and they were only the 15th ranked offense last year so they weren't far above average anyway. They'll get back to around league average by the end of the season.


If theyre at the same level offensively as last season thatd be damning and a large disappointment. Going from Rubio/Favors to Conley/Bogie shouldve seen them pushing for a top 10 offense this season, not the same caliber as last, specially since Dmitch seems to have made the jump



I’m not worried about the offense. The starters have a +7 offense (+14 net rating). They have a lot of bench lineups that are drastically underperforming but these are samples of <15 minutes.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#323 » by E-Balla » Mon Nov 4, 2019 9:27 pm

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E-Balla wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:Why is the Jazz offense so bad? Their top players aren't really bad offensive players.

It's 7 games in, Conley looked terrible most games so far, and they were only the 15th ranked offense last year so they weren't far above average anyway. They'll get back to around league average by the end of the season.


If theyre at the same level offensively as last season thatd be damning and a large disappointment. Going from Rubio/Favors to Conley/Bogie shouldve seen them pushing for a top 10 offense this season, not the same caliber as last, specially since Dmitch seems to have made the jump

Rubio and Favors are both good offensive players. However much they improved it's not much, and the defense will take a hit. Mitchell's improvement will be the real change IMO.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#324 » by eminence » Mon Nov 4, 2019 10:20 pm

Ehh, I'm pretty concerned about the offense, seems to need Mitchell to function at an acceptable level so far.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#325 » by Dr Spaceman » Mon Nov 4, 2019 10:29 pm

E-Balla wrote:
GSP wrote:
E-Balla wrote:It's 7 games in, Conley looked terrible most games so far, and they were only the 15th ranked offense last year so they weren't far above average anyway. They'll get back to around league average by the end of the season.


If theyre at the same level offensively as last season thatd be damning and a large disappointment. Going from Rubio/Favors to Conley/Bogie shouldve seen them pushing for a top 10 offense this season, not the same caliber as last, specially since Dmitch seems to have made the jump

Rubio and Favors are both good offensive players. However much they improved it's not much, and the defense will take a hit. Mitchell's improvement will be the real change IMO.


Favors is an efficient finisher and he boards well but are you really saying you don’t think Bojan is a HUGE upgrade over him?
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#326 » by Dr Spaceman » Mon Nov 4, 2019 10:38 pm

eminence wrote:Ehh, I'm pretty concerned about the offense, seems to need Mitchell to function at an acceptable level so far.


They’re integrating 2 new starters and a third guy who was on the bench last year. Offense has been fine in their main lineups. And the Jazz have started the last three regular seasons playing like a 45 win team only to come on and be one of the best teams in the league from mid-Jan to March. They are a team that relies heavily on chemistry over star power and the chemistry isn’t there quite yet.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#327 » by Colbinii » Mon Nov 4, 2019 10:40 pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
GSP wrote:
If theyre at the same level offensively as last season thatd be damning and a large disappointment. Going from Rubio/Favors to Conley/Bogie shouldve seen them pushing for a top 10 offense this season, not the same caliber as last, specially since Dmitch seems to have made the jump

Rubio and Favors are both good offensive players. However much they improved it's not much, and the defense will take a hit. Mitchell's improvement will be the real change IMO.


Favors is an efficient finisher and he boards well but are you really saying you don’t think Bojan is a HUGE upgrade over him?


2019 ORPM
Bog: 1.19
Favors: -.49

2019 OBPM:
Bog: 1.4
Favors: 1.1

I personally think Bog is a huge upgrade over Favors. I think Bog will be a great guy defensively against Kawhi, James, George (bigger Wings). Offensively he should be a huge upgrade.

As for Conley he needs time to adjust. Utah runs most of their action out of the wings and in Memphis that wasn't the case.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#328 » by eminence » Mon Nov 4, 2019 11:31 pm

Do think time/familiarity/some rotation changes can fix it though. There seems to be a clear top 6 to the rotation (starters + Ingles). Pairing Ingles/Mitchell a bit more looks like a good idea to me (they seem to be able to carry the bench crew). Drop Niang from the rotation if possible (10 man to 9 man). Not quite as enthusiastic as Crow over on APBR, but do think coach is fiddling with lineups a bit too much even for the early season.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#329 » by Clyde Frazier » Tue Nov 5, 2019 12:08 am

Has anyone watched Jabari Parker play much on the hawks so far? Looks like he might be a steal for them at only $6.5 mil per year over the next 2 seasons (2nd year is a player option). Off to a nice start offensively: 13.8 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 1 APG on 63.6% TS, 110 ORtg, +7.9 net rating in 111 min. I have no idea how he's looked defensively, but seems like he could fit into the Rudy Gay spurs vet role off the bench (even if he's only 24 lol).
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#330 » by clyde21 » Tue Nov 5, 2019 2:00 am

on god every time I put on a Houston box score all I ever see is 'James Harden hits a free throw'...this con artist should be banned from the NBA
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Post#331 » by Colbinii » Tue Nov 5, 2019 3:08 am

A Ruling I have never seen before.

Giannis has the ball right before the end of the first half and runs the length of the court and attempts a lay-up. Refs rule that he did not shoot the ball before the game clock. The Refs then change it to a foul on Giannis with 0.2 seconds left; Minnesota Ball. Milwaukee challenges and since the foul occured at 0.2 seconds but Continuation rules that the basket counts for Giannis even though it was after the clock expired.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#332 » by clyde21 » Tue Nov 5, 2019 3:15 am

Clyde Frazier wrote:Has anyone watched Jabari Parker play much on the hawks so far? Looks like he might be a steal for them at only $6.5 mil per year over the next 2 seasons (2nd year is a player option). Off to a nice start offensively: 13.8 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 1 APG on 63.6% TS, 110 ORtg, +7.9 net rating in 111 min. I have no idea how he's looked defensively, but seems like he could fit into the Rudy Gay spurs vet role off the bench (even if he's only 24 lol).


he's actually looked pretty explosive offensively but still as bad as ever defensively
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#333 » by GSP » Tue Nov 5, 2019 3:20 am

Morant looks really good........I think Memphis could regret dealing Carter. He might be the perfect fit next to him
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#334 » by anthony00 » Tue Nov 5, 2019 3:36 am

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Post#335 » by GSP » Tue Nov 5, 2019 4:01 am

Dr Spaceman wrote:.....


Have your thoughts on Booker changed at all this season so far?
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#336 » by anthony00 » Tue Nov 5, 2019 4:18 am

Harden this season not counting tonights game (Hasn't updated yet)
GP MIN FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OREB DREB REB AST TOV STL BLK PF DD2 TD3 PTS +/-
6 209 52 140 37.1 17 79 21.5 91 95 95.8 6 6 26 46 34 5 2 23 1 0 212 -7

Westbrook This Season Not counting tonights Game (Sat out rest A.K.A got benched)

GP MIN FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OREB DREB REB AST TOV STL BLK PF DD2 TD3 PTS +/-
6 199 47 102 46.1 7 28 25 26 39 66.7 13 13 59 55 25 11 4 17 4 2 127 -47
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#337 » by eminence » Tue Nov 5, 2019 4:26 am

The baby Warriors are kinda fun.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#338 » by GSP » Tue Nov 5, 2019 5:02 am

There's no way the Suns make the playoffs right?

Baynes turning into a Draymond/Horford utility big has been ridiculous
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#339 » by eminence » Tue Nov 5, 2019 5:15 am

GSP wrote:There's no way the Suns make the playoffs right?

Baynes turning into a Draymond/Horford utility big has been ridiculous


Ehh, doesn't seem that far fetched. I wouldn't pick them to make it as of now, but I wouldn't be surprised I guess.
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Post#340 » by Joey Wheeler » Tue Nov 5, 2019 5:16 am

The Suns will be a good team this year, defo have a chance at making the playoffs if things go well for them. Ricky Rubio is a great player and the ideal point guard, the right guy to take the most out of this young cast. If Booker and especially Rubio stay fit, I think at least 45 wins are possible, which probably won't be enough to make playoffs in the West but still a good season.

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