Political Roundtable Part XXVII

[Jamaaliver]

A year from Election Day, Democratic presidential contenders extend leads over Donald Trump: POLL

A year before the nation votes, top Democratic contenders have extended their leads over President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential race, with broad public concerns about the president’s leadership in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.

While former Vice President Joe Biden now leads Trump by 17 percentage points, other Democratic contenders show the most improvement: Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ advantage vs. Trump has gone from a non-significant 6 points in July to 12 in September to 17 now. Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s has gone from 7 to 11 to 15 points.

Spoiler:

There are vast gender gaps in presidential preference, and they’ve widened. Focusing on the top three contenders, Biden and Warren are in virtual dead heats with Trump among men, but lead him by 30 and 29 points, respectively, among women.

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[Wizardspride]

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[JWizmentality]

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And this is why we have closed door testimony. Lt. Dumba$$ here got his memory jogged when he saw the other testimonies after the fact.

Derpy Derp Derp.

[Pointgod]

A year from Election Day, Democratic presidential contenders extend leads over Donald Trump: POLL

A year before the nation votes, top Democratic contenders have extended their leads over President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential race, with broad public concerns about the president’s leadership in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.

While former Vice President Joe Biden now leads Trump by 17 percentage points, other Democratic contenders show the most improvement: Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ advantage vs. Trump has gone from a non-significant 6 points in July to 12 in September to 17 now. Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s has gone from 7 to 11 to 15 points.

Spoiler:

There are vast gender gaps in presidential preference, and they’ve widened. Focusing on the top three contenders, Biden and Warren are in virtual dead heats with Trump among men, but lead him by 30 and 29 points, respectively, among women.

Yahoo

Does this poll show Trump against the Democratic candidates in battle ground states? From what I heard it’s Democrats aren’t doing too well.

[Pointgod]

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And this is why we have closed door testimony. Lt. Dumba$$ here got his memory jogged when he saw the other testimonies after the fact.

Derpy Derp Derp.

I have to think that anyone who believes Republican talking points is a complete idiot. Seriously their story keeps changing, they claim that Democrats have been doing the process in secret and that the process should be public, then when Democrats vote for public testimonies they claim its a sham process. Which one is it? Now their defence of Trump goes from their was no quid pro quo to oh if there was it doesn’t matter. These guys are huge clowns but their supporters have to be the biggest rubes in the country. Common sense would tell you when positions change this much it’s because there’s obvious wrong doing.

[pancakes3]

blue virginia and blue kentucky.

[Pointgod]

blue virginia and blue kentucky.

So much for the Trump bump. Is that **** Rand Paul up in Kentucky for 2020? Would be beautiful to see him and Moscow Mitch sent packing.

[dobrojim]

blue virginia and blue kentucky.

So much for the Trump bump. Is that **** Rand Paul up in Kentucky for 2020? Would be beautiful to see him and Moscow Mitch sent packing.

Under regular circumstances, both US Senators from a single state
will not face election in the same year.

But #moscowmitch is up and his poll numbers are very
similar to what Bevins were. Paul is a douche but the
damage he’s done is a fraction of what #moscowmitch
has inflicted.

[Wizardspride]

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[Jamaaliver]

The last black GOP congressman to his party: Stop the racism, homophobia, misogyny

Hurd warned that Republicans need to do more to reach out to minority voters



For four years, Texas Rep. Will Hurd has been hailed as “the future of the GOP” — an example of the kind of Republican the party needs as America’s demographics change. In other words, not another older white guy.

So when Hurd, the only black Republican in the House announced his retirement in August, members of both parties took notice. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told reporters that he was “not concerned about any retirement” except Hurd’s.

In an interview with POLITICO, Hurd, a member of the Intelligence Committee...warned that Republicans need to do more to reach out to minority voters.

Warning to Republicans about black voter outreach

If the Republican Party doesn't start looking like America and being appealing to all Americans, then there won't be a Republican Party in America. And that requires folks in the party to take our conservative message to communities that have never seen us or benefited from us.

The three largest growing group of voters are minorities, people under the age of 29 and women with a college degree in the suburbs. Our brand is pretty bad in those three areas.

There's this narrative out there that we don't care. If people don't think you care about them, they're not going to listen to your idea regardless of what that idea is. And the only way you solve that is by showing up, the only way you solve that is by not saying mean things and saying misogynist things, not saying racist things, not being homophobic or any kind of phobic.

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[dckingsfan]

The last black GOP congressman to his party: Stop the racism, homophobia, misogyny

Hurd warned that Republicans need to do more to reach out to minority voters



For four years, Texas Rep. Will Hurd has been hailed as “the future of the GOP” — an example of the kind of Republican the party needs as America’s demographics change. In other words, not another older white guy.

So when Hurd, the only black Republican in the House announced his retirement in August, members of both parties took notice. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told reporters that he was “not concerned about any retirement” except Hurd’s.

In an interview with POLITICO, Hurd, a member of the Intelligence Committee...warned that Republicans need to do more to reach out to minority voters.

Warning to Republicans about black voter outreach

If the Republican Party doesn't start looking like America and being appealing to all Americans, then there won't be a Republican Party in America. And that requires folks in the party to take our conservative message to communities that have never seen us or benefited from us.

The three largest growing group of voters are minorities, people under the age of 29 and women with a college degree in the suburbs. Our brand is pretty bad in those three areas.

There's this narrative out there that we don't care. If people don't think you care about them, they're not going to listen to your idea regardless of what that idea is. And the only way you solve that is by showing up, the only way you solve that is by not saying mean things and saying misogynist things, not saying racist things, not being homophobic or any kind of phobic.

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Remind me - did Virginia turn blue?

Remind me - which state is next?

[Ruzious]

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That reminds me of the reasoning used for drowning "witches" in Salem Mass. We won't know they're not witches unless they drown when we hog-tie them to a log. If they float, we know to burn them witches alive. Ain't that rot?

Actually, we won't know Mr. Paul isn't an alien unless his head splits open when we bash his head with a brick 100 times. Hey, unless we try it, we won't know.

[closg00]

I totally get why Paul’s neighbor kicked his ass, the man is a total Dick!!

[queridiculo]

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I'm at a loss for words, the absurdity of it all.

[montestewart]

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I'm at a loss for words, the absurdity of it all.

Paul's Ancient Aliens-style reasoning doesn't change the fact that the transcript and numerous witnesses have substantiated the fact that it was aliens.

Paul's riding on his father's coattails, but with a script rather than actual core beliefs. Rather than a libertarian, he's more contrived contrarian, reflexively applauding Trump when a move conforms with the Paul shtick, regardless of fallout or Trump's motives. I expect down the road he will attempt to take credit for the Syrian retreat, and if Trump is reelected, maybe he jockeys for a cabinet-level position (Secretary of State would be an easy do-nothing gig for him). Trump has no core beliefs either, so appointing someone so superficially contrary to him, likely wouldn't appear odd to Trump, and when it was pointed out to him, he would characterize as proof of his brash brilliance.

[daoneandonly]

And so have you, so we cna be done with each other

I brought it up again only to highlight

1. Hypocrisies with those that use science on this argument, but ignore it in other issues
2. Thinking that Hill got her comeuppance, like abortion, means we hate or want to control women and believe in double standards, newsflash, most of us dont. Most of us are married to women, and many are blessed to be raising what will soon be women when they reach that age.

So yeah, enough with all the deflections

Serious question for you. Is the only reason that you vote for Trump is because he puts Conservative judges on the Supreme Court which would lead to making it harder for women to seek legal abortions? Like we know that Trump doesn’t give a **** about abortions and I’m sure he’s funded more than his fare share. He’s also a rapist and goes against every Christian value, so seriously are you just a one issue voter on abortion? If Hillary Clinton was anti choice would you vote for her?

Yes sir, i believe i mentioned that prior, but only reason i voted Trump. I think the guy's a jerk, but due to said issue, i had no other choice. Im fine with him being impeached if it means Pence takes the reigns

[daoneandonly]

Oh pot cakes with more irrelevant feedback. Yea if i was a misogynistic i wouldnt cherish and adore my wife and daughter, as most family orientated conservative men do. Sure if wr have some bad apples, every group be it race, religion, socio economic status, sport fanbase, etc do. But comparatively, conservatives are far more family orientated and hold more integrity than our liberal counterparts. Not to mention accountable and paying our own way

[Ruzious]

Oh pot cakes with more irrelevant feedback. Yea if i was a misogynistic i wouldnt cherish and adore my wife and daughter, as most family orientated conservative men do. Sure if wr have some bad apples, every group be it race, religion, socio economic status, sport fanbase, etc do. But comparatively, conservatives are far more family orientated and hold more integrity than our liberal counterparts. Not to mention accountable and paying our own way

Just the fact that your party got Donald Trump elected makes your conclusions complete horse manure - though that's far from the only reason they are.

[daoneandonly]

Oh pot cakes with more irrelevant feedback. Yea if i was a misogynistic i wouldnt cherish and adore my wife and daughter, as most family orientated conservative men do. Sure if wr have some bad apples, every group be it race, religion, socio economic status, sport fanbase, etc do. But comparatively, conservatives are far more family orientated and hold more integrity than our liberal counterparts. Not to mention accountable and paying our own way

Just the fact that your party got Donald Trump elected makes your conclusions complete horse manure - though that's far from the only reason they are.

We'll have to respectfully agree to disagree my fellow g burger

The party elected him because the field got saturated with too many candidates. it sucks, but it was the unfortunate reality. A guy like John Kasich or Paul Ryan have more integrity in the facial tissue they used and disposed of today morning, than Warren, Sanders, AOC, Booker, and Harris combined.

The same thing is happening with the Dems. You're going to get an incoherent Biden, or the compound kumbayah everything free at the expense of a certain subset, lets not eliminate just student debt, lets eliminate any semblance of accountability warren or sanders. The latter 2 just run on a platform of complacency, thats essentially what doubling he minimum wage is going to do.

[Ruzious]

Oh pot cakes with more irrelevant feedback. Yea if i was a misogynistic i wouldnt cherish and adore my wife and daughter, as most family orientated conservative men do. Sure if wr have some bad apples, every group be it race, religion, socio economic status, sport fanbase, etc do. But comparatively, conservatives are far more family orientated and hold more integrity than our liberal counterparts. Not to mention accountable and paying our own way

Just the fact that your party got Donald Trump elected makes your conclusions complete horse manure - though that's far from the only reason they are.

We'll have to respectfully agree to disagree my fellow g burger

The party elected him because the field got saturated with too many candidates. it sucks, but it was the unfortunate reality. A guy like John Kasich or Paul Ryan have more integrity in the facial tissue they used and disposed of today morning, than Warren, Sanders, AOC, Booker, and Harris combined.

The same thing is happening with the Dems. You're going to get an incoherent Biden, or the compound kumbayah everything free at the expense of a certain subset, lets not eliminate just student debt, lets eliminate any semblance of accountability warren or sanders. The latter 2 just run on a platform of complacency, thats essentially what doubling he minimum wage is going to do.

Just stop - there's no rationalization that comes close to excusing Trump - it's not up for any discussion - period. And if I hear another false equivalency, I'm gonna go through that computer screen.