Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[Andrew McCeltic]

No idea how we'd make the salaries work, but I think Cody Zeller would be a great pairing long-term with Robert Williams at the 5. Really smart defender, his rebounding has exploded this year, and he's the kind of guy who can score without demanding touches. He's also shown decent passing skills over the last year or so (~2-3 APG in 25 MPG).

Cody is a pretty darn decent player. Whats his salary cap number?

~$15mm

Why would the Hornets trade one of their few decent players?

[Roddy]

Nerlens Noel for Semi and a 2nd round pick

Noel is improving again. He is know has a great shot blocker, but he has developed a nice mid-range shot and his passing ability is improving.
I was impressed by him in the two OKC games I've seen this season.


And by making this trade, you do reunite Abdel Nader and Semi Ojeleye....OKC can't say no.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I don’t think it opens up anything for us, but Zach Collins is out *four months* - Portland’s luck is brutal.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Nerlens Noel for Semi and a 2nd round pick

Noel is improving again. He is know has a great shot blocker, but he has developed a nice mid-range shot and his passing ability is improving.
I was impressed by him in the two OKC games I've seen this season.

Interesting gamble, more than Drummond - but..

[Gomes3PC]

Cody is a pretty darn decent player. Whats his salary cap number?

~$15mm

which makes it impossible to make a deal for Zeller...Or at least a deal that would make any sense for Boston

Yeah look I prefaced my comment pretty clearly...I just think he is the type of 2-way big that I think would pair nicely with Theis and Timelord.

[Floody100]

I don’t want too see another trade idea involving Hayward. We desperately need his offence if we’re going to make it far in the playoffs.

[100proof]

I don’t want too see another trade idea involving Hayward. We desperately need his offence if we’re going to make it far in the playoffs.

With brown and kanter back that jeed goes way down.

Personal feeling towards the man or not he is the most logical person to trade for the bigman upgrade that is sorely needed. I for one would love to to keep him and instead trade other pieces for that center that allows for a 4 wing lineup. But i just dont see it out there.

And I am confodent I will come up with some hayward trade proposals.

[Dannyboy36]

I don’t want too see another trade idea involving Hayward. We desperately need his offence if we’re going to make it far in the playoffs.

With brown and kanter back that jeed goes way down.

Personal feeling towards the man or not he is the most logical person to trade for the bigman upgrade that is sorely needed. I for one would love to to keep him and instead trade other pieces for that center that allows for a 4 wing lineup. But i just dont see it out there.

And I am confodent I will come up with some hayward trade proposals.

Taking personal feelings out if we are in win now mode then a trade involving Tatum makes more sense to me. He’s ( Hayward)just a superior player.
If we take away Tatum you lose some scoring, brown and you lose the only good defender on guards of the three, and lose Hayward you lose ball movement and dribbling you can’t replace. Not an easy one. But I’m so glad Hayward is playing well. Trade proposals I see everywhere are so low and it scared me Danny would sell him off.
Hayward for a big and this team will be a different team. I don’t see it happening. But who knows.

[100proof]

And as advertised, another trade idea, I love doing his lol.

3 team deal. Indy needs a reliable wing player who can defend and play intelligent team basketball and ideally need to find a better front court pairing than Sabonis and Turner. Statistically Goga and Sabonis has fared better than Turner and Sabonis, so they look to break up those 2 and add that SF they can rely on to defend and playmake/score with Brogdon and who will also pair up well with Oladipo when he returns.

Orlando needs scoring, they rank last in the league in that, and they also rank last in efficiency at scoring. They need someone who can score buckets. Also Bamba is buried there behind a mess of bigmen, so they clear out some non-scoring, non-productive bigs to make room for scoring.

Boston has a need for a bigman to grow with the young core, they go after one who has team USA connections with the core already and one who is a great fit in a stevens system.

Indy out:
Turner, TJ Warren
in
Hayward, Bamba, Poirier

Indy upgrades the SF spot at the cost of losing Turner, Bamba become a potential Turner replacement that in the meantime opens the door for a goga/sabonis front court.

Brogdon
Lamb(Dipo)
Hayward
Sabonis
Goga (Bamba)

Orlando out:
Aminu, Bamba
in
Warren, Aaron Holiday,

Orlando adds wing scoring and better balances their roster putting Gordon on the bench in favor of Isaac. Their Bench will improve greatly with Gordon taking pressure off of Ross and Augustine.

Fuktz(Augustine)
Fourner
Warren (Gordon)
Isaac
Vuc


Boston out:
Hayward, Poirier
in
Turner, Aminu

Boston adds a young blossoming Center whose skill set fit the team perfectly. Aminu brings a Vet presence off the bench that can put up relatively efficient offensive numbers but most importantly can defend sf/pf at a high rate. Once Kanter comes back that bench defense will be key from the wing positions. Williams slides into the starting PF position, or Marcus Smart into the starting SG postion (bumping Tatum and Brown each up a slot) depending on matchups.

Kemba/Edwards/Waters
Brown/Smart/Langford
Tatum/Aminu/Green
GWilliams/Theis/Semi
Turner/Kanter/RWilliams

[100proof]

I don’t want too see another trade idea involving Hayward. We desperately need his offence if we’re going to make it far in the playoffs.

With brown and kanter back that jeed goes way down.

Personal feeling towards the man or not he is the most logical person to trade for the bigman upgrade that is sorely needed. I for one would love to to keep him and instead trade other pieces for that center that allows for a 4 wing lineup. But i just dont see it out there.

And I am confodent I will come up with some hayward trade proposals.

Taking personal feelings out if we are in win now mode then a trade involving Tatum makes more sense to me. He’s ( Hayward)just a superior player.
If we take away Tatum you lose some scoring, brown and you lose the only good defender on guards of the three, and lose Hayward you lose ball movement and dribbling you can’t replace. Not an easy one. But I’m so glad Hayward is playing well. Trade proposals I see everywhere are so low and it scared me Danny would sell him off.
Hayward for a big and this team will be a different team. I don’t see it happening. But who knows.

You are not wrong at all with your statement, just not sure we could pull fair value back in a tatum+ deal for a center/bigman.

Tatum has so much potential value on top of what he actually brings to the table today that it would be very hard to make some sort of a deal work. JJJ for Tatum might be a fair start, but I think alot of people view tatum as being worth more than JJJ.

Tatum for Ayton might be a good deal, but I think Phoenix values Ayton more due to positioning, and Boston views Ayton being suspended as very bad.

[mwhis21]

Nerlens Noel for Semi and a 2nd round pick

Noel is improving again. He is know has a great shot blocker, but he has developed a nice mid-range shot and his passing ability is improving.
I was impressed by him in the two OKC games I've seen this season.

Interesting gamble, more than Drummond - but..

I don't see that as a gamble at all. Semi is a dime a dozen and we don't need another 2nd round pick. I'd do that in a heartbeat if the financials work.

[100proof]

Nerlens Noel for Semi and a 2nd round pick

Noel is improving again. He is know has a great shot blocker, but he has developed a nice mid-range shot and his passing ability is improving.
I was impressed by him in the two OKC games I've seen this season.

Interesting gamble, more than Drummond - but..

I don't see that as a gamble at all. Semi is a dime a dozen and we don't need another 2nd round pick. I'd do that in a heartbeat if the financials work.

not sure why OKC would trade a productive bigman on a good contract for a non productive wing/big on a good contract.

Its a clear step backwards and not sure a second makes up for it.

[Curmudgeon]

Why would anyone want Noel when you have TL, who is just as good defensively? Noel has that little move across the lane so he's better offensively than TL, but you aren't acquiring Noel for his offense.

Once again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Joshyjess]

Trade idea - trade Semi! If that becomes difficult, throw in Wannamaker to make the deal work.

[Roddy]

Why would anyone want Noel when you have TL, who is just as good defensively? Noel has that little move across the lane so he's better offensively than TL, but you aren't acquiring Noel for his offense.

Once again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Watch some OKC games. Noel will not score 20 points, but he has good vision and can hit some jumpers.

Since Poirier is clearly not ready to compete and Kanter is not a rim protector, I guess that having another guy who can block shots and rebounds is not a bad thing.
We have enough guys who can score, not enough defensive specialists.

[ddb]

~$15mm

which makes it impossible to make a deal for Zeller...Or at least a deal that would make any sense for Boston

Didn't you previously advocate for acquiring WCS? What if anything has changed?

last year or maybe over the offseason I did. What has changed is that we have since signed Enes Kanter, and Robert Williams is proving that he can be useful as well. Robert Williams on a rookie contract over WCS is my choice. Plus, Theis has been solid. So far in a small sample size I am happy with the Big Man by committee approach.

Theis knows how to play. 5 blocks last night. It's been nice seeing him perform with a more expanded role. Robert Williams serves a purpose and adds some energy off the bench. Kanter is going to be fine. We know what we are getting in Kanter. Grant Williams at 6'6 can play some small ball 5 and I like his intangibles.

The team is 5-1 and hasn't really been a full strength yet. I am very pleased with the chemistry of this team and the direction they are headed in. There is no way I'm trading anyone or making any changes until we see much more of how the season unfolds.

[ddb]

Trade idea - trade Semi! If that becomes difficult, throw in Wannamaker to make the deal work.

Semi is going to be needed come playoff time if we go up against the Bucks. Don't sleep on Semi. He hasn't done much, but he's a modern day 4 that can guard 3's, 4's and even some 5's.

[Wes-J]

I don't see any trades right now barring injuries. Even if that happens I'm down to see the young guys get more PT.

[Froob]

Why isn’t Noah on his way to Logan today? Seems like a no brainer if he’s healthy.

[mwhis21]

Trade idea - trade Semi! If that becomes difficult, throw in Wannamaker to make the deal work.

Semi is going to be needed come playoff time if we go up against the Bucks. Don't sleep on Semi. He hasn't done much, but he's a modern day 4 that can guard 3's, 4's and even some 5's.

No he's not. He had one really good defensive game against Giannis. And he's living off that despite doing very little since then.

Semi is not very good.