2020 NBA Draft

[clyde21]

I'd definitely take Maxey in the lottery if he can keep playing like this

i like Maxey, have him 7th overall right now, but I don't think he's had a great game. most of his points have just come on FTs, he's been inefficient otherwise

IDK to me he's showed off his explosiveness and is getting to the paint pretty much at will this much is a good thing. Especially considering he had a below-average free throw rate in the EYBL circuit

His jumper hasnt been falling but i think with his touch that it will come eventually

don't have a problem with his touch, more of a problem with the decision making tonight, buthe showed some nice things it's still the first game

on the other side, Montgomery, Quickly, or Hagans did not look good at all to me, Whitney was virtually invisible

[HeadtopChunes]

i like Maxey, have him 7th overall right now, but I don't think he's had a great game. most of his points have just come on FTs, he's been inefficient otherwise

IDK to me he's showed off his explosiveness and is getting to the paint pretty much at will this much is a good thing. Especially considering he had a below-average free throw rate in the EYBL circuit

His jumper hasnt been falling but i think with his touch that it will come eventually

don't have a problem with his touch, more of a problem with the decision making tonight, buthe showed some nice things it's still the first game

on the other side, Montgomery, Quickly, or Hagans did not look good at all to me, Whitney was virtually invisible

Yeah I came away impressed by Maxey but the others weren’t great especially Whitney and Hagans

It’s only game 1 though so a lot can change. But I’m seriously considering buying a lot of Maxey stock at this stage

[crows2]

Kahlil Whitney has been invisible so far

Yup. I never really bought into the high school ranking with him. There was a reason I didnt look at him as a lotto pick, I just dont think he has it. To be fair I haven't seen any lotto worthy picks from the 4 teams tonight.

How about Maxey? You don’t see him as a lotto pick at this stage?

[HeadtopChunes]

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[Fat]

maxey is a stud two way player. bonafide scorer that can cause havoc on both ends of the floor and a strong rebounder.

will he be a streaky shooter or legit shooter is to be determined. Look where he's letting it fly from and making them he's well beyond the the 3 point line i wasnt expecting him to be taking and making those kind of shots. His free throw shooting was solid too.

excellent start to the season for him.

[HeadtopChunes]

against weak competition but

Isiah Joe 24/5/7 - 4/11 from 3 and interestingly 6/7 from 2

Okongwu with 20p-13r-8b on 9/12 shooting

[Capn'O]

Wiseman is a high pick on profile alone but not much big man skill shown there. He just ate everyone's lunch on athleticism. Doesn't mean it isn't there or can't be developed but what I saw was a big lump of clay.

Edwards looked great. His range and finishing style remind me a bit of Dame. Not the fastest first step but great body control and creativity to finish.

[clyde21]

Wiseman is a high pick on profile alone but not much big man skill shown there. He just ate everyone's lunch on athleticism. Doesn't mean it isn't there or can't be developed but what I saw was a big lump of clay.

Edwards looked great. His range and finishing style remind me a bit of Dame. Not the fastest first step but great body control and creativity to finish.

yea, he's big and moves well, but no sophistication in his game at all at this point, production primarily on lobs, put backs and just by virtue of being bigger than everyone else

he's a good prospect, but I need to see more if I'm gonna take a C in the top 3 or 5 tbh...but again the season is young so we'll see.

re: Edwards...bigger version of CJ is my comp

[Duke4life831]

Kahlil Whitney has been invisible so far

Yup. I never really bought into the high school ranking with him. There was a reason I didnt look at him as a lotto pick, I just dont think he has it. To be fair I haven't seen any lotto worthy picks from the 4 teams tonight.

How about Maxey? You don’t see him as a lotto pick at this stage?

I guess because this class looks weak right now. I wasn't really all that impressed by him tonight. Ya the 26 points looks great, lot of those came off touch fouls though. He's a 6'2-6'3 guard that has zero facilitating skills. His shot is okay but not super consistent. What makes him a better prospect compared to say another 6'2-6'3 SG from UK Malik Monk? Monk was the more explosive athlete, I think Monk can get hotter from the 3 than Maxey. The 6'2-6'3 high volume scoring SGs just aren't really my thing.

Monk went 11th in what was viewed as a much stronger class. I personally dont view him as a lotto kind of talent, but ya I can see him going lotto in this draft.

[Duke4life831]

Wiseman is a high pick on profile alone but not much big man skill shown there. He just ate everyone's lunch on athleticism. Doesn't mean it isn't there or can't be developed but what I saw was a big lump of clay.

Edwards looked great. His range and finishing style remind me a bit of Dame. Not the fastest first step but great body control and creativity to finish.

Ya I haven't watched the game from tonight, but from the box score it looked like he basically just went up against a team with no one really bigger than 6'8 on one of the worst teams in college basketball. Those are the kind of games you hope a guy like Wiseman can dominate.

[crows2]

Yup. I never really bought into the high school ranking with him. There was a reason I didnt look at him as a lotto pick, I just dont think he has it. To be fair I haven't seen any lotto worthy picks from the 4 teams tonight.

How about Maxey? You don’t see him as a lotto pick at this stage?

I guess because this class looks weak right now. I wasn't really all that impressed by him tonight. Ya the 26 points looks great, lot of those came off touch fouls though. He's a 6'2-6'3 guard that has zero facilitating skills. His shot is okay but not super consistent. What makes him a better prospect compared to say another 6'2-6'3 SG from UK Malik Monk? Monk was the more explosive athlete, I think Monk can get hotter from the 3 than Maxey. The 6'2-6'3 high volume scoring SGs just aren't really my thing.

Monk went 11th in what was viewed as a much stronger class. I personally dont view him as a lotto kind of talent, but ya I can see him going lotto in this draft.

Agreed, he’s definitely more an SG than PG at this stage. How would you compare him to Coby White?

[Duke4life831]

How about Maxey? You don’t see him as a lotto pick at this stage?

I guess because this class looks weak right now. I wasn't really all that impressed by him tonight. Ya the 26 points looks great, lot of those came off touch fouls though. He's a 6'2-6'3 guard that has zero facilitating skills. His shot is okay but not super consistent. What makes him a better prospect compared to say another 6'2-6'3 SG from UK Malik Monk? Monk was the more explosive athlete, I think Monk can get hotter from the 3 than Maxey. The 6'2-6'3 high volume scoring SGs just aren't really my thing.

Monk went 11th in what was viewed as a much stronger class. I personally dont view him as a lotto kind of talent, but ya I can see him going lotto in this draft.

Agreed, he’s definitely more an SG than PG at this stage. How would you compare him to Coby White?

I like Coby's shooting better than Maxey's. I also think Coby's PG ability was much better as well (definitely not a strength for Coby). I think Maxey has the better defensive potential though. I wasn't all that high on Coby either though, I didnt think he should've been a top 10 pick in last year's draft.

I dont know, these small "combo" guards are just so hit and miss in my opinion. For the vast majority of them I feel like they have high bust potential with many having spark plug 6th man as their ceiling. So Im usually never too high on these kind of players personally. That is why I probably seem lower (or less enthused) about Maxey compared to most.

[MemphisX]

Maxey is a much better prospect than Coby White. The thing I like with Maxey that I kind of didn't like with Edwards is Maxey drives and gets into open spaces, Edwards has a tendency to drive into congestion. I think Maxey's way is a lot more dependable going forward while I think I will wait and see how Edwards responds to someone who can match his physicality and athleticism.

Just for me personally, I have a tendency to not like guys who can't free themselves on the college level.

[The-Power]

Ya I haven't watched the game from tonight, but from the box score it looked like he basically just went up against a team with no one really bigger than 6'8 on one of the worst teams in college basketball. Those are the kind of games you hope a guy like Wiseman can dominate.

True, but you still have to dominate. Most bigs can't produce this kind of output even if they were up against inferior competition. I also agree with @Capn'O that Wiseman is a lump of clay. But it's pretty great clay to mold.

To be honest, if Wiseman shows as much as flashes of a feel for the game (passing, countering) and shooting, and if he can effectively defend the perimeter, he's at least a top 5 prospect to me. I don't care if he shows consistency in shooting, post-scoring, passing and driving. Just give me great defense, high activity on both ends and some hope that there's untapped potential in the skills department (which is the case, imo).

edit: Has anyone seen Tyrese Haliburton play yesterday? He was super efficient last year but just didn't have a lot of usage. Yesterday, as a focal point, he seems to have done an amazing job. If he can up his volume scoring without losing a lot of his efficiency and become an effective primary playmaker (I think he can, he was one of the more impressive guys on Team USA specifically because of that and his ability to knock down 3's), there's definitely something there with his size and defensive potential.

[nolang1]

Wiseman is a high pick on profile alone but not much big man skill shown there. He just ate everyone's lunch on athleticism. Doesn't mean it isn't there or can't be developed but what I saw was a big lump of clay.

Edwards looked great. His range and finishing style remind me a bit of Dame. Not the fastest first step but great body control and creativity to finish.

Ya I haven't watched the game from tonight, but from the box score it looked like he basically just went up against a team with no one really bigger than 6'8 on one of the worst teams in college basketball. Those are the kind of games you hope a guy like Wiseman can dominate.

0 turnovers, 1 foul, 6-7 from the free throw line is all notable as well given that the biggest criticism against him was 'he's not a skilled unicorn like Porzingis so how dare he ever try to do anything other than big man things' (also illustrates the shifting goalposts that when he puts up the most dominant stat line of the night by sticking to his strengths, it's no big deal). There are plenty of big man prospects (think Jaren Jackson Jr.) who would manage to get themselves in foul trouble against such an overmatched opponent because they'd want to block every single shot.

[karkinos]

bombs from maxey

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they look good when they go in...but lets see how he plays when his game is off. if he can get to the line at will, he'll be a problem.

[CoreyVillains]

Have watched a lot of LaMelo. For all his natural gifts with the ball in his hands, his lack of disciplined basketball that he’s played growing up has really hurt his b-ball IQ. He’s really bad both offensively and defensively off ball. Plays a lot like Jamal Crawford. Very black and white right now, so the question becomes can he fill in the gray area as he gets older?

I’ve clipped together a lot of his play on both sides of the ball, both good and bad in these two twitter threads. I’ll have a much more long form video out in the months to come.

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[Marcus]

Wiseman is a high pick on profile alone but not much big man skill shown there. He just ate everyone's lunch on athleticism. Doesn't mean it isn't there or can't be developed but what I saw was a big lump of clay.

Edwards looked great. His range and finishing style remind me a bit of Dame. Not the fastest first step but great body control and creativity to finish.

This goes back to what I saying before. If Wiseman just does big man things all season he's gonna be the guy. Coaches and trainers just have to feel like there's a lot to work with there if he's doing the raw basics. I'm waiting to see as the season progresses but if he's running with this motor all season he's gonna be a problem for whomever.

Antman can get buckets, this we know. missed a couple reads and drive and kick chances that it didn't really matter because he was just to strong around the cup. As the season goes on though the comp gets better those missed reads become flaws. Hopefully he shows some playmaking potential going forward.

[Marcus]

Wiseman is a high pick on profile alone but not much big man skill shown there. He just ate everyone's lunch on athleticism. Doesn't mean it isn't there or can't be developed but what I saw was a big lump of clay.

Edwards looked great. His range and finishing style remind me a bit of Dame. Not the fastest first step but great body control and creativity to finish.

Ya I haven't watched the game from tonight, but from the box score it looked like he basically just went up against a team with no one really bigger than 6'8 on one of the worst teams in college basketball. Those are the kind of games you hope a guy like Wiseman can dominate.

0 turnovers, 1 foul, 6-7 from the free throw line is all notable as well given that the biggest criticism against him was 'he's not a skilled unicorn like Porzingis so how dare he ever try to do anything other than big man things' (also illustrates the shifting goalposts that when he puts up the most dominant stat line of the night by sticking to his strengths, it's no big deal). There are plenty of big man prospects (think Jaren Jackson Jr.) who would manage to get themselves in foul trouble against such an overmatched opponent because they'd want to block every single shot.

I take it Wiseman is your guy?

[clyde21]

Wiseman might be a top 5 guy just because I'm having trouble putting enough players in there...but ideally speaking if I am picking a C that I need him to be either an elite defender and/or potential to be elite at shot creation for himself...

at this point what makes Wiseman that much a better prospec than say...a Jaxson Hayes? Hayes was a good prospect but I had a hard time putting him in the top 5 too, and I think Hayes has a bit more potential defensively (Wiseman is obviously a lot more advanced physically at this point).