Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Part 1 - Can You Feel It?

[Kobewade11]

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[eddieheatfan]

How is DJJ questionable again smh

He has the type of athleticism where I think he can add more finesse to his finishes instead of going for the big highlight. Seems to get himself hurt a lot, crash bandicoot

he's type of play is mostly physical around the rim so yes most similar players have similar injuries and short careers because of this.shooters mostly dont suffer this problem because they live around the perimeter with fewer contacts than jumpers and dunkers. its the nature of the game,it has to be expected

[AirP.]

How is DJJ questionable again smh

He has the type of athleticism where I think he can add more finesse to his finishes instead of going for the big highlight. Seems to get himself hurt a lot, crash bandicoot

Yeah, his type of play with that type of body is going to lead to a lot of injuries. His health is why I think Miami has taken DJJ out of their long term plans and also why KZ was a trade gamble they were willing to make(to replace DJJ's future Miami rotation spot).

[eddieheatfan]

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this is a good question.he needs to assert himself more when the heat are in those shooting droughts.he was brought in for this role.there's a time to be a passer and a time to be a scorer.he needs to assert himself as the later for this team to do better

[AirP.]

he needs to assert himself more when the heat are in those shooting droughts.he was brought in for this role.there's a time to be a passer and a time to be a scorer.he needs to assert himself as the later for this team to do better

I believe Butler has 2 mindsets with different priorities.
1. Defense, playmaking and then shooting it if he has to in that order, you can also toss in looking for his own shot at clutch times.
That "famous" practice a year ago, he took 1 shot during their scrimmages, he beat the 1st team by playing defense and creating for others, trying to be the ultimate teammate. This version of Butler probably isn't close to being a max player, it's more of a high level roleplayer.
2. Finding his own shot, playmaking, and then defense(less consistent defense while taking good chances for steals). This is the max player version of J.Butler. I think the disconnect with Butler is that he needs to allow the coach decide how to build the rotation around Butler's scoring talent, not Butler fit in with the rest of the team.

My reasoning for this.
- The famous practice last year, he shot once (probably to show the younger highly talented guys that defense can win games).
- Starting out in Minnesota as the 1st priority mindset and then changing to the 2nd mindset a month or so in declaring Jimmy Buckets is back and then averaging 24 points for 44 games(till he ripped/tore his meniscus).
- Butler taking a backseat as an option in the playoffs last year till the team needed his scoring/playmaking abilities, game 1 vs Brooklyn last year and then the whole 2nd round.

The easiest way to see his mindsets is the night he broke MJs record for most points in a half by a Chicago Bull on Jan 3rd 2016, he took 4 shots in the 1st half making only 1 of them and starting the 2nd half the Bulls were behind by 12, Butler put up 19 FGA making 14 of them which led to scoring 40 points in the 2nd half giving him 42 for the game(and the win by 2 points) to go along with 4 rebounds and 5 assists.

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Miami needs the 2nd mindset from Butler because the not looking for his shot, this current version of Butler won't be good enough if this team wants to contend(even with another big scorer). I expect it's just Butler learning/getting use to his new team. In the Denver game he really needed to try to put the team on his back and try to will the Heat to a win, he didn't do that.

[TroubleS0me]

somebody take Mion!!

[eddieheatfan]

somebody take Mion!!

back to cleveland? reunion with hassan??

[twix2500]

Who thinks Dion will have a breakout year?

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Defense v. Nuggets was decent. Offense was terrible.

[County of Wade]

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So true. Where would we be without Dragic right now?

Moving to the bench and playing this well is likely extending his career and making some more money.

[puppa bear]

The Ringer has an article about the Heat & Jimmy, and the Winslow issue was brought up along with the question of what is Jimmy truly capable of? Can he elevate to the next level with a team built around him, or do we need another star that complements him?

[KingDavid]

Who thinks Dion will have a breakout year?

Me.

[Flash4thewin]

The team has been on fire, the offense just clicks. What will we do when Winslow comes back? With the way Dragic is playing and the lack of star players this coming offseason a contract starting in the mid 20+ sounds just about right for him. Maybe a 2 year old 50 mil dollar contract?

[rate_]

Dragic won’t be playing like this every game night, so we need as many weapons readily available as we can get. Winslow is still important as a playmaker and defender, but I would like for him to take more 3s to increase his scoring efficiency. He hasn’t mastered the in-between game as of yet.

[Zasterror]

he needs to assert himself more when the heat are in those shooting droughts.he was brought in for this role.there's a time to be a passer and a time to be a scorer.he needs to assert himself as the later for this team to do better

I believe Butler has 2 mindsets with different priorities.
1. Defense, playmaking and then shooting it if he has to in that order, you can also toss in looking for his own shot at clutch times.
That "famous" practice a year ago, he took 1 shot during their scrimmages, he beat the 1st team by playing defense and creating for others, trying to be the ultimate teammate. This version of Butler probably isn't close to being a max player, it's more of a high level roleplayer.
2. Finding his own shot, playmaking, and then defense(less consistent defense while taking good chances for steals). This is the max player version of J.Butler. I think the disconnect with Butler is that he needs to allow the coach decide how to build the rotation around Butler's scoring talent, not Butler fit in with the rest of the team.

My reasoning for this.
- The famous practice last year, he shot once (probably to show the younger highly talented guys that defense can win games).
- Starting out in Minnesota as the 1st priority mindset and then changing to the 2nd mindset a month or so in declaring Jimmy Buckets is back and then averaging 24 points for 44 games(till he ripped/tore his meniscus).
- Butler taking a backseat as an option in the playoffs last year till the team needed his scoring/playmaking abilities, game 1 vs Brooklyn last year and then the whole 2nd round.

The easiest way to see his mindsets is the night he broke MJs record for most points in a half by a Chicago Bull on Jan 3rd 2016, he took 4 shots in the 1st half making only 1 of them and starting the 2nd half the Bulls were behind by 12, Butler put up 19 FGA making 14 of them which led to scoring 40 points in the 2nd half giving him 42 for the game(and the win by 2 points) to go along with 4 rebounds and 5 assists.

Watch on YouTube

Miami needs the 2nd mindset from Butler because the not looking for his shot, this current version of Butler won't be good enough if this team wants to contend(even with another big scorer). I expect it's just Butler learning/getting use to his new team. In the Denver game he really needed to try to put the team on his back and try to will the Heat to a win, he didn't do that.

I think he heard you.

[MadD23]

So we just had another dominant offensive game from our guys. The beauty of floor spacing.

JJ IMO looks like a player ready to contribute and his off the dribble scoring and passing ability is a needed necessity on that second unit. He looks light, in shape and mentally stronger. Love me some DJJ, but he play's within the system and relies too much on cuts and hustle plays to score. Spo should go with JJ ahead of him from now on.

[AirP.]

he needs to assert himself more when the heat are in those shooting droughts.he was brought in for this role.there's a time to be a passer and a time to be a scorer.he needs to assert himself as the later for this team to do better

I believe Butler has 2 mindsets with different priorities.
1. Defense, playmaking and then shooting it if he has to in that order, you can also toss in looking for his own shot at clutch times.
That "famous" practice a year ago, he took 1 shot during their scrimmages, he beat the 1st team by playing defense and creating for others, trying to be the ultimate teammate. This version of Butler probably isn't close to being a max player, it's more of a high level roleplayer.
2. Finding his own shot, playmaking, and then defense(less consistent defense while taking good chances for steals). This is the max player version of J.Butler. I think the disconnect with Butler is that he needs to allow the coach decide how to build the rotation around Butler's scoring talent, not Butler fit in with the rest of the team.

My reasoning for this.
- The famous practice last year, he shot once (probably to show the younger highly talented guys that defense can win games).
- Starting out in Minnesota as the 1st priority mindset and then changing to the 2nd mindset a month or so in declaring Jimmy Buckets is back and then averaging 24 points for 44 games(till he ripped/tore his meniscus).
- Butler taking a backseat as an option in the playoffs last year till the team needed his scoring/playmaking abilities, game 1 vs Brooklyn last year and then the whole 2nd round.

The easiest way to see his mindsets is the night he broke MJs record for most points in a half by a Chicago Bull on Jan 3rd 2016, he took 4 shots in the 1st half making only 1 of them and starting the 2nd half the Bulls were behind by 12, Butler put up 19 FGA making 14 of them which led to scoring 40 points in the 2nd half giving him 42 for the game(and the win by 2 points) to go along with 4 rebounds and 5 assists.

Miami needs the 2nd mindset from Butler because the not looking for his shot, this current version of Butler won't be good enough if this team wants to contend(even with another big scorer). I expect it's just Butler learning/getting use to his new team. In the Denver game he really needed to try to put the team on his back and try to will the Heat to a win, he didn't do that.

I think he heard you.

I think he did some thinking and changed his mindset after the Denver game. I'm not sure if looking for his shot was the start of something for the long term or he felt he needed to put this team on his back the next game to not have more pressure on the younger players but whatever the reason was, it seemed to work. Herro for instance looked shell shocked in Denver and started out hesitant against the suns to shoot his shot but a few minutes into the game he kinda forced a shot or 2 then finally got back into his grove and played his game and interesting enough got very aggressive with Booker leading to a steal, to me the aggressive play against one of the player he looks up to in his first NBA game against him is pretty impressive.

[MadD23]

What an impressive stat line for Bam

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[twix2500]

What an impressive stat line for Bam

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I still expecting more out of Bam especially agianst that matchup vs Pheonix. But one thing we all know, Bam is consistantly a good player. I just feel like has the ability to do more in the scoring department.

[MadD23]

What an impressive stat line for Bam

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I still expecting more out of Bam especially agianst that matchup vs Pheonix. But one thing we all know, Bam is consistantly a good player. I just feel like has the ability to do more in the scoring department.

I agree. Hopefully he gets there sooner rather than later.