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Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (4-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3)

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Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (4-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#1 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Nov 9, 2019 3:14 am

Who: Brooklyn Nets (4-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3)

When: Sunday, Nov 10th @ 6:00pm, FSNAZ

Where: Talking Stick Resort Arena, Phoenix, AZ


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Brooklyn Nets starting lineup:

C- Allen
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F- Prince
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F- Harris
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G- LeVert
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G- Irving
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Reserves: Dinwiddie/Temple/Kurucs/Jordan

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Phoenix Suns starting lineup:

C- Baynes
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F- Saric
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F- Oubre
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G- Booker
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G- Rubio
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Reserves: Kaminsky/T.Johnson/Carter/C. Johnson

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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#2 » by Dual » Sat Nov 9, 2019 4:00 am

Baynes has been on the beach it seems :P
Let's see if things work better than against Miami.
I guess at least the effort will be there
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#3 » by ATTL » Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:44 am

Suns played too flaccid against the heat, hopefully they get back to their girthy ways against the nets.
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#4 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Nov 9, 2019 5:48 am

ATTL wrote:Suns played too flaccid against the heat, hopefully they get back to their girthy ways against the nets.
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#5 » by sunskerr » Sat Nov 9, 2019 7:09 am

ATTL wrote:Suns played too flaccid against the heat, hopefully they get back to their girthy ways against the nets.


We're too long for them on D, so we'll be able to stop their penetration.
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#6 » by Jorgeglez7 » Sat Nov 9, 2019 9:07 am

We need this W to get back on track. Let's make it happen.
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#7 » by NTB » Sat Nov 9, 2019 9:28 am

I know it's stupid but I feel like if we win this game we will finish the season around 45 wins, if we don't, 35 wins.
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Post#8 » by cberry78 » Sat Nov 9, 2019 11:03 am

Are Harris and Prince twins? And who is Irwing? :lol:
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#9 » by Hesh » Sat Nov 9, 2019 1:20 pm

NTB wrote:I know it's stupid but I feel like if we win this game we will finish the season around 45 wins, if we don't, 35 wins.


lol why this game?
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#10 » by LesGrossman » Sat Nov 9, 2019 1:42 pm

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NTB wrote:I know it's stupid but I feel like if we win this game we will finish the season around 45 wins, if we don't, 35 wins.


lol why this game?

This team will go through many ups and downs throughout the season. Similar to many hustle based teams they seem to perform better against stronger challengers, so i'm not really sure how this game will go, but i wont hang my hopes for this season on this games' outcome. More interested about how we fare against the Lakers, which i consider a winnable game.

And to add some perspective: Last year i followed, among other teams, the Jazz - they were playoff bound but seemed to fight for 0.5 throughout all season.The Suns have been over .5 all the time, so no reason to worry really, even if one secretly dreams of a playoff spot.
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#11 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 9, 2019 3:56 pm

NTB wrote:I know it's stupid but I feel like if we win this game we will finish the season around 45 wins, if we don't, 35 wins.


They have great shooting, coaching, and great depth. I wouldn't expect a win necessarily but I think coming off a loss with a two day break helps. As long as we keep it competitive we should be fine.
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#12 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 9, 2019 3:58 pm

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Hesh wrote:
NTB wrote:I know it's stupid but I feel like if we win this game we will finish the season around 45 wins, if we don't, 35 wins.


lol why this game?

This team will go through many ups and downs throughout the season. Similar to many hustle based teams they seem to perform better against stronger challengers, so i'm not really sure how this game will go, but i wont hang my hopes for this season on this games' outcome. More interested about how we fare against the Lakers, which i consider a winnable game.

And to add some perspective: Last year i followed, among other teams, the Jazz - they were playoff bound but seemed to fight for 0.5 throughout all season.The Suns have been over .5 all the time, so no reason to worry really, even if one secretly dreams of a playoff spot.


Lakers will be tough. Not sure how we can contain both AD and LeBron, or come close to them in rebounding with them two, Javale and Howard.

But if we play our tough D overall, deny their shooting and get hot, we can perhaps stay in it.
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Post#13 » by Dual » Sat Nov 9, 2019 4:20 pm

Lakers are imposible right now, as always at one time in the season AD will get injured and then you can win some games against them. Right now they are on fire.
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (3-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#14 » by Calvin Klein » Sat Nov 9, 2019 10:45 pm

I really liked Brooklyn last season. Now that they have "those two", I really want to beat them.
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Post#15 » by LesGrossman » Sat Nov 9, 2019 11:33 pm

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LesGrossman wrote:
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lol why this game?

This team will go through many ups and downs throughout the season. Similar to many hustle based teams they seem to perform better against stronger challengers, so i'm not really sure how this game will go, but i wont hang my hopes for this season on this games' outcome. More interested about how we fare against the Lakers, which i consider a winnable game.

And to add some perspective: Last year i followed, among other teams, the Jazz - they were playoff bound but seemed to fight for 0.5 throughout all season.The Suns have been over .5 all the time, so no reason to worry really, even if one secretly dreams of a playoff spot.


Lakers will be tough. Not sure how we can contain both AD and LeBron, or come close to them in rebounding with them two, Javale and Howard.

But if we play our tough D overall, deny their shooting and get hot, we can perhaps stay in it.

I'm just not buying into the hype. LeBron is playing zero defense. We dont have to do much to do more than they do. Its absolutely doable.
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Re: Game 9: Brooklyn Nets (4-4) @ Phoenix Suns (5-3) 

Post#16 » by NapoleonII » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:29 am

From what I've seen, Bron's defense has been great this year, actually. He plays much smarter, gambles less, gets in position constantly. His head is in it. Probably because they just spam AD ISO's and he doesn't have to run the offense nearly as much

Numbers back up your claim?
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Post#17 » by Qwigglez » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:56 am

Without Ayton we stand very little chance against the Lakers, unless we catch them sleeping or if we catch fire.
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Post#18 » by LesGrossman » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:17 am

NapoleonII wrote:From what I've seen, Bron's defense has been great this year, actually. He plays much smarter, gambles less, gets in position constantly. His head is in it. Probably because they just spam AD ISO's and he doesn't have to run the offense nearly as much

Numbers back up your claim?

Before any numbers i believe what i see. Its obvious he isnt playing real defense; does not help, often does not even run back (therefore open for the long outlet, completely alone under the basket). Maybe we are watching different games.
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Post#19 » by Saberestar » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:40 pm

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What does DeAndre Jordan do here, exactly?
Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant coercing the Nets into signing Jordan to a four-year, $40 million deal was an underrated free-agency side plot. Opponents have outscored the Nets by 13.4 points per 100 possessions with Jordan on the floor, per NBA.com. That number flips to almost its photo negative -- plus-12 -- when Jarrett Allen replaces him.

As Dallas and New York witnessed last season, Jordan just doesn't do anything on defense beyond being large and near the basket. He's basically a boulder with arms. That has value! He munches rebounds. The Nets give up fewer shots at the rim with Jordan on the floor. That has been the case with every Jordan team since his rookie season. Some players see a tall person and stop in their tracks.

The ones who keep going? They're shooting 12 percentage points higher on shots within the restricted area against Brooklyn with Jordan on the floor, per Cleaning The Glass. He's challenging only 3.3 such shots per game, even fewer than Jokic. He's a solid post defender, but the few good post-up centers left aren't afraid of him; Domantas Sabonis punked Jordan for a dunk on the first Pacers possession of their win in Brooklyn last week, and ate Jordan's lunch the rest of the game.

If the Nets had a basketball justification for signing Jordan, it was to defend bangers who overpower Allen. If he can't do that, how much value does he have?

Jordan doesn't catch as many lobs as he used to. He's even off to an icy start at the line after remaking himself into a decent foul shooter.


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