WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing

[Knicksfan1992]

I don't know if the Knicks really “fumbled” their plan B.... I'm still convinced Bobby doesn't get signed if they knew Marcus Morris was a real possibility from the jump... but then again you can blame them for that also (not being 100% prepared for any scenario).

The biggest issue for this team right now has really nothing to do with specifically who they signed, it's more about the guards and bigs not being utilized correctly and odd lineup choices that never remain consistent from game to game. That's a direct reflection of Fizdale. If you watched all the games from start to finish you would know this team should really be like 4-6 now instead of 2-8 (Spurs game should have been a win, we were up I believe 15 at one point in the 1st Celtics blowout loss, the Nets loss should have been a win if the coach had any semblance of an offense down the stretch, The Celtics buzzer beater game is self-explanatory). A good coach pulls out at least a few of those wins or they aren’t close games to begin with and yet Fizdale and the team fumbled all of them.

Is the roster construction less than ideal? Yes, there aren’t enough good passers on this team and there is definitely a clear lack of elite consistent shooting, but literally every new acquisition has a lower TS% than they did last year except for maybe Morris. Randle’s role has been completely bungled. I can’t even begin to describe how terribly misused he is. I’m not exactly a Frank supporter, but no person has been yanked around quite like him over his tenure here. The bigs seem allergic to actually setting screens. Bobby Portis has been changed from a nice stretch 4/5 option to a black hole post up threat. Dotson who at the very least played like a rotation player last year has been MIA until last night where he was yanked after providing good minutes and a +2 in the midst of a blowout… Trier is pulled for games on end and then all of a sudden is trusted to be the team’s pg when Frank goes to the bench. A role his skillset is not really conducive to and also a role he has never been asked to do in his career. RJ is consistently frozen out of the offense no matter what he is shooting like. Marcus Morris, a known vet with established strengths and weaknesses is consistently put in pick and roll situations over other better options that share the floor with him.

And that’s just the basic incompetence that I, a fan, can notice… These are all signs of a coach who either doesn’t prepare enough, simply does not understand his players or has no clear development plan for each individual player. No matter how you slice it it’s a clear indictment on David Fizdale and also a front office who clearly did not communicate whatever vision they may have had with their current personnel.

[FKF]

God I’d pay a lot of money for a dinner with Donnie Walsh, Glen Grunwald and Phil Jackson.

[FKF]

I don't know if the Knicks really “fumbled” their plan B.... I'm still convinced Bobby doesn't get signed if they knew Marcus Morris was a real possibility from the jump... but then again you can blame them for that also (not being 100% prepared for any scenario).

The biggest issue for this team right now has really nothing to do with specifically who they signed, it's more about the guards and bigs not being utilized correctly and odd lineup choices that never remain consistent from game to game. That's a direct reflection of Fizdale. If you watched all the games from start to finish you would know this team should really be like 4-6 now instead of 2-8 (Spurs game should have been a win, we were up I believe 15 at one point in the 1st Celtics blowout loss, the Nets loss should have been a win if the coach had any semblance of an offense down the stretch, The Celtics buzzer beater game is self-explanatory). A good coach pulls out at least a few of those wins or they aren’t close games to begin with and yet Fizdale and the team fumbled all of them.

Is the roster construction less than ideal? Yes, there aren’t enough good passers on this team and there is definitely a clear lack of elite consistent shooting, but literally every new acquisition has a lower TS% than they did last year except for maybe Morris. Randle’s role has been completely bungled. I can’t even begin to describe how terribly misused he is. I’m not exactly a Frank supporter, but no person has been yanked around quite like him over his tenure here. The bigs seem allergic to actually setting screens. Bobby Portis has been changed from a nice stretch 4/5 option to a black hole post up threat. Dotson who at the very least played like a rotation player last year has been MIA until last night where he was yanked after providing good minutes and a +2 in the midst of a blowout… Trier is pulled for games on end and then all of a sudden is trusted to be the team’s pg when Frank goes to the bench. A role his skillset is not really conducive to and also a role he has never been asked to do in his career. RJ is consistently frozen out of the offense no matter what he is shooting like. Marcus Morris, a known vet with established strengths and weaknesses is consistently put in pick and roll situations over other better options that share the floor with him.

And that’s just the basic incompetence that I, a fan, can notice… These are all signs of a coach who either doesn’t prepare enough, simply does not understand his players or has no clear development plan for each individual player. No matter how you slice it it’s a clear indictment on David Fizdale and also a front office who clearly did not communicate whatever vision they may have had with their current personnel.

How many coaches have the Knicks had since Steve Mills is in that Garden office ?

[ADeP7]

Woj on with Kay at 5

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Why would anyone realistically want to coach here? Fizdale isn't a very good coach, but what other team is having their president and GM hold a press conference 30 seconds after a loss like that. They clearly did that to preemptively appease Dolan and throw Fizdale under the bus. I don't like how Fizdale coaches, but Mills is to blame for this as the architect and mastermind behind this awful roster. They brought in multiple players that would take development time or touches from their young guys, multiple players who play the same position and no backup plan for not getting Kyrie/KD. A competent front office would have kept KP, a competent front office would have contingency plans for missing out on missing their 2 biggest free agents, the Lakers aren't the best run team but even they had backup plans in case they didn't get Kawhi (Danny Green waited that entire time).

There's no direction from the top, we need to be full developmental but instead they put together a weird roster with imbalances all over the place that also hurts the playing time of our young guys.

[newyorker4ever]

There’s footage of Masai saying he hates the Knicks. Well damn. Lol

Really? I wanna see this footage. Can you link it up so we can all see please?

really old interview aroudn the 16:20 min mark

Watch on YouTube

I've never seen that before but it seemed a little odd and that he was in some way joking around so not sure how to take it. He also thought Phil Jackson was gonna do an amazing job for the Knicks..LOL

[nedleeds]

Mills is such a snake. This is your guy and your roster. He’s pushing people out the way to get to the lifeboats, instead of going down with the ship like a good captain

He is the longest tenured con artist in league history.

Mills then became Chief operating officer and Sports Business President of Madison Square Garden in 2003.

In 2009, Mills left MSG and joined Magic Johnson Enterprises where he helped create the Athletes & Entertainers Wealth Management Group, LLC (A&E), of which he was a partner.

On September 26, 2013, the New York Knicks announced Mills would be the executive vice president and general manager of the organization.

So even giving him a false start he's been the GM since 2013.

The pictures he must have of Dolan covered in lady boys, cocaine and handcuffs must be legendary.

[Strick]

If we start trading picks in desperation for these mfs to have their asses I'll absolutely lose my mind

[woosah]

At this point you wonder if Fiz doesn't start doing even weirder things to expedite this firing. All pf lineup incoming with Juju as pg.

[seren]

You can’t let Mills pick the next coach. You go and get a new front office that will have a fresh look at this roster. You need a coach who is willing to cut losses with useless veterans we got this summer and concentrate on rookies. That is the way to go.

[johanliebert]

Sorry, I have no faith in the FO that scouted Kentucky for a year and decided that Kevin Knox was the team’s best prospect on a team featuring SGA that carried them into the tournament.

Or a team that thought spending over 100 million on veterans looking for their stats on 1 year deals was a genius idea when the young kids need to develop.

You know how many guys led college teams and carried them but the guy off the bench ended up an all nba player? They prolly thought Knoxx had a better nba game/

[nedleeds]

I don't know if the Knicks really “fumbled” their plan B.... I'm still convinced Bobby doesn't get signed if they knew Marcus Morris was a real possibility from the jump... but then again you can blame them for that also (not being 100% prepared for any scenario).

The biggest issue for this team right now has really nothing to do with specifically who they signed, it's more about the guards and bigs not being utilized correctly and odd lineup choices that never remain consistent from game to game. That's a direct reflection of Fizdale. If you watched all the games from start to finish you would know this team should really be like 4-6 now instead of 2-8 (Spurs game should have been a win, we were up I believe 15 at one point in the 1st Celtics blowout loss, the Nets loss should have been a win if the coach had any semblance of an offense down the stretch, The Celtics buzzer beater game is self-explanatory). A good coach pulls out at least a few of those wins or they aren’t close games to begin with and yet Fizdale and the team fumbled all of them.

Is the roster construction less than ideal? Yes, there aren’t enough good passers on this team and there is definitely a clear lack of elite consistent shooting, but literally every new acquisition has a lower TS% than they did last year except for maybe Morris. Randle’s role has been completely bungled. I can’t even begin to describe how terribly misused he is. I’m not exactly a Frank supporter, but no person has been yanked around quite like him over his tenure here. The bigs seem allergic to actually setting screens. Bobby Portis has been changed from a nice stretch 4/5 option to a black hole post up threat. Dotson who at the very least played like a rotation player last year has been MIA until last night where he was yanked after providing good minutes and a +2 in the midst of a blowout… Trier is pulled for games on end and then all of a sudden is trusted to be the team’s pg when Frank goes to the bench. A role his skillset is not really conducive to and also a role he has never been asked to do in his career. RJ is consistently frozen out of the offense no matter what he is shooting like. Marcus Morris, a known vet with established strengths and weaknesses is consistently put in pick and roll situations over other better options that share the floor with him.

And that’s just the basic incompetence that I, a fan, can notice… These are all signs of a coach who either doesn’t prepare enough, simply does not understand his players or has no clear development plan for each individual player. No matter how you slice it it’s a clear indictment on David Fizdale and also a front office who clearly did not communicate whatever vision they may have had with their current personnel.

How many coaches have the Knicks had since Steve Mills is in that Garden office ?

Since Isiah, with some time off working for Magic Johnson. His first move was as an MSG business executive was hiring Isiah Thomas to run the Knicks.

[johanliebert]

So what’s fitz issue with the front office? Is it dennis smith jr not playing?

[Knicksfan1992]

I don't know if the Knicks really “fumbled” their plan B.... I'm still convinced Bobby doesn't get signed if they knew Marcus Morris was a real possibility from the jump... but then again you can blame them for that also (not being 100% prepared for any scenario).

The biggest issue for this team right now has really nothing to do with specifically who they signed, it's more about the guards and bigs not being utilized correctly and odd lineup choices that never remain consistent from game to game. That's a direct reflection of Fizdale. If you watched all the games from start to finish you would know this team should really be like 4-6 now instead of 2-8 (Spurs game should have been a win, we were up I believe 15 at one point in the 1st Celtics blowout loss, the Nets loss should have been a win if the coach had any semblance of an offense down the stretch, The Celtics buzzer beater game is self-explanatory). A good coach pulls out at least a few of those wins or they aren’t close games to begin with and yet Fizdale and the team fumbled all of them.

Is the roster construction less than ideal? Yes, there aren’t enough good passers on this team and there is definitely a clear lack of elite consistent shooting, but literally every new acquisition has a lower TS% than they did last year except for maybe Morris. Randle’s role has been completely bungled. I can’t even begin to describe how terribly misused he is. I’m not exactly a Frank supporter, but no person has been yanked around quite like him over his tenure here. The bigs seem allergic to actually setting screens. Bobby Portis has been changed from a nice stretch 4/5 option to a black hole post up threat. Dotson who at the very least played like a rotation player last year has been MIA until last night where he was yanked after providing good minutes and a +2 in the midst of a blowout… Trier is pulled for games on end and then all of a sudden is trusted to be the team’s pg when Frank goes to the bench. A role his skillset is not really conducive to and also a role he has never been asked to do in his career. RJ is consistently frozen out of the offense no matter what he is shooting like. Marcus Morris, a known vet with established strengths and weaknesses is consistently put in pick and roll situations over other better options that share the floor with him.

And that’s just the basic incompetence that I, a fan, can notice… These are all signs of a coach who either doesn’t prepare enough, simply does not understand his players or has no clear development plan for each individual player. No matter how you slice it it’s a clear indictment on David Fizdale and also a front office who clearly did not communicate whatever vision they may have had with their current personnel.

How many coaches have the Knicks had since Steve Mills is in that Garden office ?

I'm not absolving Mills from blame... Hell he hired the guy in the 1st place! lol. But what exactly does that have to do with how this team is being coached currently?

[newyorker4ever]

Screamin' A in fine form today.

When he starts stammering...you know its on!

How do people actually listen to this guy and his screamin A schtick that he figured out would make him money cause he'd get more job and appearance opportunities?? Dudes a straight clown.

Mans feelings are truly hurt. It's hilarious!

He's blurred the lines between his schtick and his own genuine feelings.

I see mostly fakeness and no genuine feelings from him. It's his thing to be loud and yell and scream and say things that the other media people laugh at. Sorry but IMO this is all a SAS act and it's made him a lot of money. He should thank Skip Bayless every day for getting him that job on First Take cause he blew up from that show.

[Mecca]

Sorry, I have no faith in the FO that scouted Kentucky for a year and decided that Kevin Knox was the team’s best prospect on a team featuring SGA that carried them into the tournament.

Or a team that thought spending over 100 million on veterans looking for their stats on 1 year deals was a genius idea when the young kids need to develop.

You know how many guys led college teams and carried them but the guy off the bench ended up an all nba player? They prolly thought Knoxx had a better nba game/

And it was obvious that they were wrong

[Deeeez Knicks]

SAS was preaching. Things are so bad that listening to SAS makes things feel better.

[louisorr]

Fizdale seems like a nice guy and I’ll feel bad for him if he’s fired. Here’s a list of some coaches who were not considered nice guys, even mean and scary
Riley, pop, Rudy t, Casey, Daley, Izzy, John Thompson, as an, parcels, Belichick anyway you get the point.
Nice guys finish last. As in last place.

[Besart19]

Dolan is not about winning... he earns more by losing... which team has the most revenue?!!

[thebuzzardman]

Bringing Action Jackson back home would be so Knicks.

It's either going to be an absolutely genius move...or an absolute disaster.

I was never big on Mark Jackson, probably because of all the God talk, but at this point what tf else could go wrong?

Jackson getting hired, the Knicks playing badly, and later Jackson caught violating a male Knicks intern.

There is always another level at MSG.