#37 - GOAT peaks project (2019)

[trex_8063]

Since it was almost a wash for me anyway, I've bowed to collective wisdom and changed my 1st ballot vote to the '18 version of AD.

With so many of his contemporaries already in: Westbrook at #25, Kawhi #27, Giannis #31, Harden #35......seriously how far behind can Davis reasonably be?

This looks like a fallacy to me. It's a peaks project he could be in the 50s or more.

I'm not sure the angle you're arguing here. Is it a fallacy because you feel Anthony Davis's peak was never remotely close to any of the aforementioned? Or is it fallacy because in a peaks project there's barely any difference between [for example] #35 and #50?

If the former, agree to disagree. If the latter, that's an argument I can somewhat see or agree with.

[trex_8063]

Thru post #21 I have the count as:

'75 Rick Barry - 7.5 pts
'75 Bob McAdoo - 5 pts
'61 Elgin Baylor - 5 pts
'73 Walt Frazier - 5 pts
'18 Anthony Davis - 4.5 pts
'72 Walt Frazier - 4.5 pts
'99 Alonzo Mourning - 4.5 pts
'58 Bob Pettit - 2 pts


(again just four voters thus far)

[cecilthesheep]

Welp, i typed out a whole long thing and my computer blue screened. Here's the TL:DR -

1. 1960 Bob Pettit - Pettit was the first real offensive superstar of the shot clock era, and had impact in a few different ways: this is all conjectural from the extremely limited film available, but he seemed to rely a lot on a combination of layups/putbacks with an outside jumper. Notably, he didn't take as many inefficient hooks as I'm used to seeing from that era. He was either spacing the floor or taking a high-efficiency shot. He had some impact as a passer as well, one of the first guys who really got good at drawing the defense to himself and finding a teammate. 1959 through 1961 was his best run of team + individual success; 1960 had the best playoff run, which I'll use as a tiebreaker.

2. 1959 Bob Pettit - same guy, same team, slightly less impressive playoffs

3. 1961 Bob Pettit - got a lot of rebounds this year, but again, same guy, same team, slightly less impressive playoffs

I will probably vote for Baylor and Barry before this project ends, if Pettit gets in. I'd be interested to hear everyone's thoughts on Dave Cowens, Reggie Miller, Scottie Pippen, Allen Iverson, John Havlicek, and Cousy.

A lot of people thought Cousy was the GOAT before Russell; they may be wrong, but I think it's worth analyzing where that comes from. I think the Nash/Magic comps have some merit, although the offensive rating tanking with Russell's arrival is weird.

[LA Bird]

Final totals as at the deadline:

1. 75 Barry = 7.5 points
T2. 61 Baylor = 5.0 points
T2. 75 McAdoo = 5.0 points
T2. 73 Frazier = 5.0 points
T5. 72 Frazier = 4.5 points
T5. 99 Mourning = 4.5 points
T5. 18 Davis = 4.5 points
T5. 60 Pettit = 4.5 points

75 Barry wins.