The Brandon Clarke Shrine

JWizmentality · Post #1 » by **JWizmentality** » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:03 pm

Look I get it. You guys are salty. You feel betrayed. How could anyone not see that Brandon Clarke is the 4th best PF in the league?

So this is long overdue. Posting in the thread of the far inferior player Rui Hachimura is ungodly.

All Clarke disciples, sycophants, acolytes, free masons...behold and defecate here.

TGW · Post #2 » by **TGW** » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:23 pm

A certain poster when they post about BC:

tontoz · Post #3 » by **tontoz** » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:40 pm

I heard he kicked Chuck Norris' ass..... when he was 12.

payitforward · Post #4 » by **payitforward** » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:48 pm

JWizmentality wrote:Look I get it. You guys are salty. You feel betrayed. How could anyone not see that Brandon Clarke is the 4th best PF in the league?

So this is long overdue....

Dammit -- if you want to react to what I write, then read what I write. I never said, & I do not think, that the rookie Brandon Clarke is "the 4th best PF in the league."

Nor have I ever said that Rui is an "inferior player." What I did say was that trading down would have allowed us to get Brandon Clarke & at least one other prospect (e.g. Keldon Johnson), maybe two.

We don't need a Brandon Clarke thread on the Wizards board; he's not a Wizard. Not posting here again.

DCZards · Post #5 » by **DCZards** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:29 am

payitforward wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Look I get it. You guys are salty. You feel betrayed. How could anyone not see that Brandon Clarke is the 4th best PF in the league?

So this is long overdue....

Dammit -- if you want to react to what I write, then read what I write. I never said, & I do not think, that the rookie Brandon Clarke is "the 4th best PF in the league."

Nor have I ever said that Rui is an "inferior player." What I did say was that trading down would have allowed us to get Brandon Clarke & at least one other prospect (e.g. Keldon Johnson), maybe two.

We don't need a Brandon Clarke thread on the Wizards board; he's not a Wizard. Not posting here again.

I agree.

JWizmentality · Post #6 » by **JWizmentality** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:39 am

payitforward wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Look I get it. You guys are salty. You feel betrayed. How could anyone not see that Brandon Clarke is the 4th best PF in the league?

So this is long overdue....

Dammit -- if you want to react to what I write, then read what I write. I never said, & I do not think, that the rookie Brandon Clarke is "the 4th best PF in the league."

Nor have I ever said that Rui is an "inferior player." What I did say was that trading down would have allowed us to get Brandon Clarke & at least one other prospect (e.g. Keldon Johnson), maybe two.

We don't need a Brandon Clarke thread on the Wizards board; he's not a Wizard. Not posting here again.

C'mon Piffy. No need to be all up in your feelings. You don't want to be seen as the guy that loves to dish out but can't take it.

tontoz · Post #7 » by **tontoz** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:01 am

Not to add fuel to the fire or anything but in tonights win against the Spurs he had 14 pts (6-7 from the field, 2-2 from 3) and 8 rebounds in only 18 minutes.

*ducks for cover*

JWizmentality · Post #8 » by **JWizmentality** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:23 am

tontoz wrote:Not to add fuel to the fire or anything but in tonights win against the Spurs he had 14 pts (6-7 from the field, 2-2 from 3) and 8 rebounds in only 18 minutes.

*ducks for cover*

There is no denying his greatness.

Kanyewest · Post #9 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:15 pm

I would be interested in Brandon Clarke updates even though I am not part of the Clarke Illuminati.

dckingsfan · Post #10 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:33 pm

tontoz wrote:I heard he kicked Chuck Norris' ass..... when he was 12.

Chuck Norris wears Brandon Clarke pajamas...

dckingsfan · Post #11 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:34 pm

DCZards wrote:
payitforward wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Look I get it. You guys are salty. You feel betrayed. How could anyone not see that Brandon Clarke is the 4th best PF in the league?

So this is long overdue....

Dammit -- if you want to react to what I write, then read what I write. I never said, & I do not think, that the rookie Brandon Clarke is "the 4th best PF in the league."

Nor have I ever said that Rui is an "inferior player." What I did say was that trading down would have allowed us to get Brandon Clarke & at least one other prospect (e.g. Keldon Johnson), maybe two.

We don't need a Brandon Clarke thread on the Wizards board; he's not a Wizard. Not posting here again.

I agree.

trast66 · Post #12 » by **trast66** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:40 pm

I've watched parts of a couple of MEM games and they are very athletic. Clarke, Jackson, Morant, Brooks can all run and jump like antelopes. I don't see we are there yet in our rebuild. We have Rui and Brad at that level of athlete. And the John Wall of three years ago. Much like us they have no idea how to play defense.

Clarke is already 23 years old, a month older than Devin Booker who is in his 5th year. So WYSIWYG with him to a point.

Will be fun to compare Rui and Clarke through the years, like I do with TBJr and Zhaire Smith, both of whom have not done much yet.

payitforward · Post #13 » by **payitforward** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:14 pm

JWizmentality wrote:
payitforward wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Look I get it. You guys are salty. You feel betrayed. How could anyone not see that Brandon Clarke is the 4th best PF in the league?

So this is long overdue....

Dammit -- if you want to react to what I write, then read what I write. I never said, & I do not think, that the rookie Brandon Clarke is "the 4th best PF in the league."

Nor have I ever said that Rui is an "inferior player." What I did say was that trading down would have allowed us to get Brandon Clarke & at least one other prospect (e.g. Keldon Johnson), maybe two.

We don't need a Brandon Clarke thread on the Wizards board; he's not a Wizard. Not posting here again.

C'mon Piffy. No need to be all up in your feelings. You don't want to be seen as the guy that loves to dish out but can't take it.

After Brandon Clarke's outing last night, it's now the 3d best PF in the league that I'm not saying he is is.

tontoz · Post #14 » by **tontoz** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:16 am

I feel like the only guy on this board that hasn't seen him play. I am assuming he has a high motor, something that i see as an underrated skill. Active players find opportunities that more passive players dont see.

Faried was a high energy player who fits the same profile. He scored around the rim and got a lot of rebounds. However his lack of size made him a liability on d inside and he never developed range on his shot.

If Clarke continues to hit 3s they might be able to play him at the 3. There he could be an Ariza type player. Ariza couldnt even dribble but he was an effective player for us.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #15 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:34 am

Brandon Clarke. LaRon Proffit.

Same difference.

Discuss.

Jaekast · Post #16 » by **Jaekast** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:18 am

Should be a shrine not a thread.

Jaekast · Post #17 » by **Jaekast** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:20 am

He's Otis Thorpe with 48" vertical.

Jaekast · Post #18 » by **Jaekast** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:22 am

Everytime pif posts, a foster kitten finds a forever home.

I_Like_Dirt · Post #19 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:44 pm

Jaekast wrote:Everytime pif posts, a foster kitten finds a forever home.

Found one for your home!

payitforward · Post #20 » by **payitforward** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:37 pm

tontoz wrote:I feel like the only guy on this board that hasn't seen him play. I am assuming he has a high motor, something that i see as an underrated skill. Active players find opportunities that more passive players dont see.

Faried was a high energy player who fits the same profile. He scored around the rim and got a lot of rebounds. However his lack of size made him a liability on d inside and he never developed range on his shot....

This is actually the first sensible, questioning comment or comparison on Clarke that anyone has yet posted -- not just in this thread but on the board. Well done!

At the same time, obviously, its relevance might be limited by the fact that you've never seen Clarke play!

How much did you see Faried play?

Not at all in college, I assume (b/c you've said that you don't follow college ball, not to mention that Faried went to Morehead State!). How about as a pro? Not much, I would guess -- but I may be wrong: am I wrong?

If I'm right, then are you really sure Faried was a "liability" in the league -- in any way at all? Can you find that "liability" by looking anywhere in his numbers, for example? I'm not being critical; I'm actually interested to know!

Last year, for example, Faried scored 20+ points per 40 minutes at a TS% of .622. That means he missed only 6.2 shots to rack up the 20+ points. Thing is... in that same 40 minutes, he grabbed 5.4 offensive boards on his & teammates' missed shots. Plus, he turned the ball over at a lower rate than an average big. That's kind of an amazing level of offensive efficiency at pretty high usage, right?

The opponent would have to be able, essentially, to score at will off of you to counteract its effect. Now, he did foul at a somewhat worse rate than average for a big @ .9 more times in 40 minutes: that gives something to the opponent, no doubt. But, his steals & blocks were at an average level & his defensive rebounding was better than average.

Not definitive, but I wonder how much of a defensive liability he really was overall. &, since his offensive contribution was over the top in effectiveness (on above average in usage too!), it looks like he was a very positive force as a player.

I guess that's why, overall, Kenneth Faried was +5 per 40 minutes on the floor last year. Where's the "defensive liability" in that, I wonder?

tontoz wrote:If Clarke continues to hit 3s they might be able to play him at the 3. There he could be an Ariza type player. Ariza couldnt even dribble but he was an effective player for us.

Hard to know what to say to that.... These two guys are absolutely nothing like each other! Zero.

It's possible that you actually have to see a guy play, not to mention look carefully at his numbers, to make a really useful comment on him -- what do you think?