Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.

He is playing within his game and his per36 numbers are similar to Rozier's, but with better efficiency.

[Edug27]

I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.

+1.

Edwards should not be given minutes until he proves he can help the team.

Agree. +2.

[Joshyjess]

I think we need to wait for a game where Edwards again gets hot and hits like 7 or 8 3's and then trade him to a team looking for a 3 point shooter. I like the kid, but I think his whole career he's going to be a big inconsistent hit-or-miss kind of guy. I doubt he will have more than 2 or 3 games in a row where he's "on", but rather 1 or 2 "on" games and 3 or 4 "off" games. If we can get something half-decent for him, I think we should.

[100proof]

Christian Wood
DJ Wilson
Harry Giles

One those should be the target at this point in time.
Edwards/semi/wannamaker/poirier are the assets to choose from

[sportfan6197]

Jesus. People already going off on Edwards after 10 games?

[SmartWentCrazy]

Jesus. People already going off on Edwards after 10 games?

No. He’s just shown no reason he should be playing above Wanamaker at this time.

[Joshyjess]

low risk trade assets - Edwards, Semi, Poirior, some later future picks. The question is can any (or all) of these bring us anything that is really worth trading for?
Other trade assets (that could actually hurt us, but might be worth it) - Green, G Williams, Wannamaker, Kanter, Theis, better future picks. Could any of these (along with some of the lower risk assets) be used to get us a player who could really help us?
The rest of the players (and high potential draft picks), I think, shouldn't be considered in any kind of trade, unless the prize is extremely high.
So, will Danny make any low level trades? Will he include some of our better assets in a deal? Is there a player out there who can pry some of our better players out of Danny's hands for a deal?
What do you think are our "low risk" assets? Who do you think is almost untouchable (unless the trade is really, really good)? Do you think any worthwhile trade is actually going to happen by the deadline?
Personally, I think some (or all) of our low trade assets might be gone by the deadline, and that we pick up a serviceable player or two, but I don't really think any major trades will happen this season.

[Gomes3PC]

I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.

He is playing within his game and his per36 numbers are similar to Rozier's, but with better efficiency.

Just as importantly, he is producing without dominating the ball nearly as much. When he does have it, he is quick and decisive to make a decision to drive, shoot, or pass. No wasted movements with him.

He can't carry an offense like Tito and his best level of D is maybe a notch below where Rozier is at when he's hungry, but he's a better fit as a 9th man trying to facilitate an offense and keep the team defensive scheme intact.

[ZeroTolerance]

I don't think Ayton loves the game. It's just a job for him-- he's said so. He's skilled offensively but he's just going through the motions for the $$$.

Montrezl Harrell is the antithesis of Ayton. Now there's a guy I'd love to see on the Celtics.

Harrell has the Celtic pedigree....no question...But would Doc even consider giving him up?...........I'm not at all sure, at this point, that we have anything reasonable to offer the Clippers unless it's multiple young players or future picks....

For sure Harrell would be what the doctor ordered off the Celtic bench...

[MagicBagley18]

I don't think Ayton loves the game. It's just a job for him-- he's said so. He's skilled offensively but he's just going through the motions for the $$$.

Montrezl Harrell is the antithesis of Ayton. Now there's a guy I'd love to see on the Celtics.

Harrell has the Celtic pedigree....no question...But would Doc even consider giving him up?...........I'm not at all sure, at this point, that we have anything reasonable to offer the Clippers unless it's multiple young players or future picks....

For sure Harrell would be what the doctor ordered off the Celtic bench...

Gonna have to pay Harrell 15-20 20 million next summer as he is a free agent

[Half-Full]

I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.

He is playing within his game and his per36 numbers are similar to Rozier's, but with better efficiency.

Just as importantly, he is producing without dominating the ball nearly as much. When he does have it, he is quick and decisive to make a decision to drive, shoot, or pass. No wasted movements with him.

He can't carry an offense like Tito and his best level of D is maybe a notch below where Rozier is at when he's hungry, but he's a better fit as a 9th man trying to facilitate an offense and keep the team defensive scheme intact.

In full agreement of your assessment. Wanamaker strikes me as confident, and very comfortable running the offense. Zero in the flash department, but compensates with heady, steady play on both ends. He clearly has the respect of his teammates, and I think as the season wears on, he will win over fans. Here's a nice compilation of Wanamaker highlights from last season. I think it clearly shows the kind of player he is.

Watch on YouTube

[Ernest]

Kind of hard to make any trades when we are winning like this and just about everyone is playing well.

[Higgs Boston]

you would trade Brown for Beal at this point?

[Andrew McCeltic]

Drummond has been talked to death, but the Pistons really should do something right? I mean is their plan to almost make the playoffs every year?

They had one good run years ago when Reggie Jackson was completely healthy, so they think they're just good health and a move or two away. They really need to tear down the whole roster and start over - no idea why they traded for Blake Griffin, still, except ticket sales - they need to trade him somewhere like Miami while there's still an appetite for him.

[bucknersrevenge]

I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.

Do people hate him?

Its jsut that he is a reasonable person to trade based on the potential of the rookies.
And that to get a good PF,for example, you are going to have to include 1 of Wannamaker, Edwards or waters.

You think you're gonna get a good pf with Wanamaker as the center of a trade? That's hilarious.

[bucknersrevenge]

I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.

+1.

Edwards should not be given minutes until he proves he can help the team.

I hate Wanamaker and I don't know why. You're completely correct, he's an ideal 3rd PG on the team or 2nd PG with Hayward out but for some reason I don't like him.

You should have somebody take a look at that.

[100proof]

I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.

Do people hate him?

Its jsut that he is a reasonable person to trade based on the potential of the rookies.
And that to get a good PF,for example, you are going to have to include 1 of Wannamaker, Edwards or waters.

You think you're gonna get a good pf with Wanamaker as the center of a trade? That's hilarious.

No, I expect someone of comparable overall value. Perhaps a pick would need to be included.
For example, wannamaker and a second or bucks pick would net you DJ Wilson.
Semi or wannamaker probably gets Christian Wood, perhaps a second rounder needs added.

Arent looking at gamechangers here, but fit/need. and who knows, someone might break out as some of the guys I am thinking of are still quite young and havent really had much of an opportunity

[VeryMuchWoke]

Jesus. People already going off on Edwards after 10 games?

No. He’s just shown no reason he should be playing above Wanamaker at this time.

Sure he has, he's way younger and has potential. I'm not saying Brad should hand him all the minutes, but there are certainly reasons.


As for trade ideas, what would it take to get Jarrett Allen from the Nets? He's technically starting, but only playing about 15 minutes per game in his last 2, with Deandre Jordan stealing most of his minutes. It probably doesn't make much sense, as he is similar to TimeLord, but if this continues I imagine he's going to want out and he's one of the few targets where matching salary is easy.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Jesus. People already going off on Edwards after 10 games?

No. He’s just shown no reason he should be playing above Wanamaker at this time.

Sure he has, he's way younger and has potential. I'm not saying Brad should hand him all the minutes, but there are certainly reasons.


As for trade ideas, what would it take to get Jarrett Allen from the Nets? He's technically starting, but only playing about 15 minutes per game in his last 2, with Deandre Jordan stealing most of his minutes. It probably doesn't make much sense, as he is similar to TimeLord, but if this continues I imagine he's going to want out and he's one of the few targets where matching salary is easy.

Those arent really reasons on why he should be playing over someone who is unquestionably better than him, though. Edwards needs to show some of that potential before he’s given a bigger role.

[zoyathedestroya]

No. He’s just shown no reason he should be playing above Wanamaker at this time.

Sure he has, he's way younger and has potential. I'm not saying Brad should hand him all the minutes, but there are certainly reasons.


As for trade ideas, what would it take to get Jarrett Allen from the Nets? He's technically starting, but only playing about 15 minutes per game in his last 2, with Deandre Jordan stealing most of his minutes. It probably doesn't make much sense, as he is similar to TimeLord, but if this continues I imagine he's going to want out and he's one of the few targets where matching salary is easy.

Those arent really reasons on why he should be playing over someone who is unquestionably better than him, though. Edwards needs to show some of that potential before he’s given a bigger role.

Wanamaker's advantage over Edwards, apart from already being familiar with what we'e running and how we defend, is he can initiate the offense which allows Kemba to play off the ball in non-clutch minutes and for Smart to rest. Edwards is more of a gunner who keeps looking for his shot rather than the next right play. Plus Brad is bigger and more versatile. Stevens is already using his three-guard lineup now that Hayward is out. Hard to do that with both Kemba and Edwards on the floor. (Carsen is a very poor man's Kemba right now.)

Anyway, no urgency to mess with the roster at the moment.