2020 NBA Draft

[No-Man]

Dunno, I just don't think it matters, you don't want that either way, Stewart is more of a bench big, and if he starts it's more like a Kevon Looney circumstantial thing probably, Oscar I think has legit size and athleticism to be a starting 5 even if he is short

[CP War Hawks]

Health pending, I don't see how Mcdaniels doesn't work himself into the top 10.

[HeadtopChunes]

I could see Xavier Tillman play his way into the first

[The-Power]

I could see Xavier Tillman play his way into the first

Not sure about first round, but I believe he can carve out a role in the NBA for himself. Also, I believe Aaron Henry's stock could rise. Maybe it's because he's a lefty playing Forward at Michigan State, but he does look a bit like Miles Bridges if you took away some of his athleticism.

Health pending, I don't see how Mcdaniels doesn't work himself into the top 10.

He's a top 10 talent for sure but boy oh boy does he struggle with contact. I want to see him become a consistent shooter and show considerable defensive flashes. That would help me a lot to feel more comfortable with him in the mid-lottery.

[No-Man]

I think McDaniels is a top20 talent, top10 feels a bit rich, not sure how he translates really, he is a bit like a worse version of Brandon Ingram

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Through two games Tyrese Haliburton is averaging:

13.5 points
7 rebounds
13 assists
4 steals
54% FG
40% 3P

Weak competition but goddamn -- that's a pretty staggering start.

[shakes0]

too early for his own thread, but don't forget the name Paul Reed. DePaul junion, MIP in the Big East last year, last night destroyed Iowa at Iowa. He will be drafted and might even be good enough to go in the first round when it's all said and done.

[Marcus]

pos NCAA

facts.

I need dates and times for this. I know Wiseman and Penny are close. I know he coached him in AAU and it wasn't a huge surprise he chose Memphis once Penny got the gig but if this move happened before all of this i don't see the problem. I get the implication but to me it's not that far from "family member of 5-star recruit gets hired to prospective school's coaching staff". Now if Memphis Tigers head coach Penny Hardaway helped Wiseman move after he signed on the dotted line I understand. But, if big homie Penny Hardaway helped the fam move and ended up with the HC gig at Memphis later on I would deem that as a different situation.

missing the point. Penny was a mega booster for Memphis. He gave a high school kid money and that kid later went to the school where Penny is a booster. That's textbook "enticement". This is NCAA Rules 101. Doesn't matter that Penny wasn't the coach back then, doesn't matter that Penny is the coach now. Result would be the same even if Penny wasn't the coach. It's quite simple.

Memphis is stupid to play him. These wins will all end up being vacated.

yeah i hadn't read the part about the HoF donation he gave. So i see where it lands in the flat out wrong argument. Still not onboard with this being ok in May and then not ok game two into the season. But we'll see how the whole thing plays out.

[The-Power]

Through two games Tyrese Haliburton is averaging:

13.5 points
7 rebounds
13 assists
4 steals
54% FG
40% 3P

Weak competition but goddamn -- that's a pretty staggering start.

And you even left out one of the most impressive parts: 1.5 TO. This guy has 26 assists to only 3 turnovers.

[The-Power]

Where do you guys rank Théo Maledon, Killian Hayes and Deni Avdija? Assume they are in the 2020 draft.

[clyde21]

Xavier Johnson just not playing well right now, had some hopes for him coming into the year but he looks worse than last year so far

[karkinos]

and UK just lost to evansville

[clyde21]

so Kentucky just lost against Evansville...EVANSVILLE

im really souring on all these Kentucky guys...even Maxey who I really liked coming in

[clyde21]

lotto sleeper: Isaac Okoro

[Duke4life831]

Ya Im sticking with my Coby White > Maxey and not viewing Maxey as a lotto talent. Dont trust the shot, absolutely 0 facilitating in his game and not a good defender. I said before the season that I thought he was just another small combo guard that can get hot, but overall nothing more than a potential 6th man kind of player.

Again so weird watching UK and Duke both not have elite talent on the same year. Just doesn't seem right haha.

[HeadtopChunes]

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[clyde21]

yea not sure that's that great...kinda heavy footed, hips are a bit tight and lateral quickness not elite

hes just not gonna be an elite defender...he has elite size but the athleticism is average...he can be above average on defense just based on size, instincts and motor alone but the top tier athleticism isn't there

Hes DeAndre Ayton with a better motor but less athleticism

[HeadtopChunes]

yea not sure that's that great...kinda heavy footed, hips are a bit tight and lateral quickness not elite

hes just not gonna be an elite defender...he has elite size but the athleticism is average...he can be above average on defense just based on size, instincts and motor alone but the top tier athleticism isn't there

Hes DeAndre Ayton with a better motor but less athleticism

i think you can get him to be a decent defender and decent offensive player, I don't think he will be a franchise player but a good supporting piece.

Not really comparing playstyle but I think around the talent level of Andre Drummond is what he could top out as


Okongwu is looking very good and might challenge for the top big spot, especially if he shows he might be able to shoot one day

[The-Power]

Ya Im sticking with my Coby White > Maxey and not viewing Maxey as a lotto talent. Dont trust the shot, absolutely 0 facilitating in his game and not a good defender. I said before the season that I thought he was just another small combo guard that can get hot, but overall nothing more than a potential 6th man kind of player.

Yeah, he might be the new Collin Sexton. A player that looks good sometimes but is ultimately best suited to be a scoring spark off the bench because he can neither lead a team nor play particularly effectively in diminished roles next to better perimeter players. Also, the only reason I rate Whitney right now is because he has the body of a SF in a league that loves wings; and yet he still looks like a 2nd-round talent at this point. I don't rate Hagans at all.

In Memphis, I'm worried a bit about Achiuwa. I was fairly high on him coming in but thus far he hasn't shown too much to get excited about. If he can't provide more resistance in the paint on defense then he'll struggle as a PF. Doesn't look like a lottery talent early on. Wiseman was in a tough spot, Oregon really sold out to take him out of the game, always having a body on him and shading him with a second. Memphis should have gone to the PnR earlier but all in all I can't be too harsh on Wiseman. His presence alone changes the dynamic of games and I love that he does two underrated things: 1) go hard after rebounds and just naturally piles them up; and 2) set really good screens, which is rare in a highly-touted young big but will benefit him and his team tremendously in the future. If he can effectively patrol the paint and not get burned on switches, he can be an elite defender – that alone with his ability to pressure the rim and hit FTs makes him a great prospect.

Other than that, Grimes had a solid debut for Houston. Isaiah Joe had another good game – he's a top 10 talent for sure, I'd have him just outside the top 5 at this point. McDaniels seemed to have struggled but at least filled the stat-sheet in the non-scoring categories bodes well; Stewart did what he does, he'll be a really good college player this year. And Anthony Edwards appears to have had another really good game. Daniel Oturu did his best to carry Minnesota but to no avail; still, he has some really promising traits. Trayce Jackson-Davis continued his efficient play for Indiana and Haliburton had this first underwhelming offensive game (but he had an amazing play where he got the deflection in the opponent's half, hustles to save it before it goes out of bounds and in the air while coming down threw a perfect behind the back pass for an uncontested lay-up – that might sum up the player he is: quick hands, hustle, awareness and great passing).

[doordoor123]

Ya Im sticking with my Coby White > Maxey and not viewing Maxey as a lotto talent. Dont trust the shot, absolutely 0 facilitating in his game and not a good defender. I said before the season that I thought he was just another small combo guard that can get hot, but overall nothing more than a potential 6th man kind of player.

Yeah, he might be the new Collin Sexton. A player that looks good sometimes but is ultimately best suited to be a scoring spark off the bench because he can neither lead a team nor play particularly effectively in diminished roles next to better perimeter players. Also, the only reason I rate Whitney right now is because he has the body of a SF in a league that loves wings; and yet he still looks like a 2nd-round talent at this point. I don't rate Hagans at all.

In Memphis, I'm worried a bit about Achiuwa. I was fairly high on him coming in but thus far he hasn't shown too much to get excited about. If he can't provide more resistance in the paint on defense then he'll struggle as a PF. Doesn't look like a lottery talent early on. Wiseman was in a tough spot, Oregon really sold out to take him out of the game, always having a body on him and shading him with a second. Memphis should have gone to the PnR earlier but all in all I can't be too harsh on Wiseman. His presence alone changes the dynamic of games and I love that he does two underrated things: 1) go hard after rebounds and just naturally piles them up; and 2) set really good screens, which is rare in a highly-touted young big but will benefit him and his team tremendously in the future. If he can effectively patrol the paint and not get burned on switches, he can be an elite defender – that alone with his ability to pressure the rim and hit FTs makes him a great prospect.

Other than that, Grimes had a solid debut for Houston. Isaiah Joe had another good game – he's a top 10 talent for sure, I'd have him just outside the top 5 at this point. McDaniels seemed to have struggled but at least filled the stat-sheet in the non-scoring categories bodes well; Stewart did what he does, he'll be a really good college player this year. And Anthony Edwards appears to have had another really good game. Daniel Oturu did his best to carry Minnesota but to no avail; still, he has some really promising traits. Trayce Jackson-Davis continued his efficient play for Indiana and Haliburton had this first underwhelming offensive game (but he had an amazing play where he got the deflection in the opponent's half, hustles to save it before it goes out of bounds and in the air while coming down threw a perfect behind the back pass for an uncontested lay-up – that might sum up the player he is: quick hands, hustle, awareness and great passing).

Do you watch NBA basketball? Sexton isn’t a bench scorer. He’s a starter who has been defending well recently. And he’s still super young. I’ll stay on Sexton island, he’s going to be really good. And so will Coby White. Sexton’s drive to be great is going to take him a long way and Coby’s high IQ will take him a long way. They’re both still super young and will only get better.