2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread

[Dadouv47]

I havent been watching a lot of OKC games now that WB is gone, but I did take a look at the roster stats and I see that Donovan is still hiding Burton on the bench. It makes sense now, since he probably wants to tank for picks and Burton could tilt the team towards playoff contention. OKC should do WB another solid and trade him to HOU. Even after the Free Burton movement from last season, OKC clearly still doesn't value him and would probably give him away for nothing. In retrospect it would look like armed robbery, but he deserves his freedom. The guy is an all star level talent that has been rotting on the bench for years now. Its robbing NBA fans regardless of team affiliation when a guy of this level is being hidden from collective view.

So with that said, what would you trade Burton for?

I missed you!

[Dn4sty]

I havent been watching a lot of OKC games now that WB is gone, but I did take a look at the roster stats and I see that Donovan is still hiding Burton on the bench. It makes sense now, since he probably wants to tank for picks and Burton could tilt the team towards playoff contention. OKC should do WB another solid and trade him to HOU. Even after the Free Burton movement from last season, OKC clearly still doesn't value him and would probably give him away for nothing. In retrospect it would look like armed robbery, but he deserves his freedom. The guy is an all star level talent that has been rotting on the bench for years now. Its robbing NBA fans regardless of team affiliation when a guy of this level is being hidden from collective view.

So with that said, what would you trade Burton for?

I missed you!

I love Burton and am irrationally high on him, but even I have my limits.

[Balkman32]

Would you trade Schroder and Roberson (a pick?) for Otto Porter?

[ThunderBolt]

Would you trade Schroder and Roberson (a pick?) for Otto Porter?

I dont know. It might be a fair deal depending on otto’s hip situation but it seems unnecessary. I would love to get rid of Dennis but I love first rounds picks.

[Dadouv47]

Would you trade Schroder and Roberson (a pick?) for Otto Porter?

I dont know. It might be a fair deal depending on otto’s hip situation but it seems unnecessary. I would love to get rid of Dennis but I love first rounds picks.

Pretty much this. I rather keep a first round pick despite hating Dennis Schroeder so much

[Domejandro]

Congrats on becoming a mod, TB!

Here is a trade I posted over on the Trade Board, was curious of your guys' thoughts.

MIN: Danilo Gallinari
OUT: Jeff Teague and Minnesota's 2020 First Round Draft Pick (1-20 Protected; becomes two seconds)

Why for Minnesota? Get the bird-rights to one of the most dynamic three-point shooters in the entire league, further opening up the lane for Andrew Wiggins.

OKC: Jeff Teague and Minnesota's 2020 First Round Draft Pick (1-20 Protected; becomes two seconds)
OUT: Danilo Gallinari

Why for Oklahoma City? Potentially acquire a late-first, get out of the Luxury-Tax, and get a player who can be flipped again in Jeff Teague.

Ideally you find a third team for Teague, but regardless, that is the framework.

[RalphSampsonJr]

I havent been watching a lot of OKC games now that WB is gone, but I did take a look at the roster stats and I see that Donovan is still hiding Burton on the bench. It makes sense now, since he probably wants to tank for picks and Burton could tilt the team towards playoff contention. OKC should do WB another solid and trade him to HOU. Even after the Free Burton movement from last season, OKC clearly still doesn't value him and would probably give him away for nothing. In retrospect it would look like armed robbery, but he deserves his freedom. The guy is an all star level talent that has been rotting on the bench for years now. Its robbing NBA fans regardless of team affiliation when a guy of this level is being hidden from collective view.

So with that said, what would you trade Burton for?

Jesus..

[ThunderBolt]

Congrats on becoming a mod, TB!

Here is a trade I posted over on the Trade Board, was curious of your guys' thoughts.

MIN: Danilo Gallinari
OUT: Jeff Teague and Minnesota's 2020 First Round Draft Pick (1-20 Protected; becomes two seconds)

Why for Minnesota? Get the bird-rights to one of the most dynamic three-point shooters in the entire league, further opening up the lane for Andrew Wiggins.

OKC: Jeff Teague and Minnesota's 2020 First Round Draft Pick (1-20 Protected; becomes two seconds)
OUT: Danilo Gallinari

Why for Oklahoma City? Potentially acquire a late-first, get out of the Luxury-Tax, and get a player who can be flipped again in Jeff Teague.

Ideally you find a third team for Teague, but regardless, that is the framework.

Thanks!

As far as the trade goes, it largely depends on how Minnesota is looking at the deadline. Top 20 protection has a decent shot to not convey. The wolves could sneak into the playoffs and keep their pick. Ideally I think Presti would want a lotto protected pick. It likely depends on who has the leverage come trade deadline. If Gallo pulls a hamstring and misses some games, OKC might not be able to get a first.

My question is why would Minnesota do this? Are they going to re-sign Gallo? Does his time line really fit with KAT and company? Every time I see a trade for Minnesota involving trading a pick, A wolves fans says that trading picks isn’t an option since the wolves aren’t a free agent destination. Maybe it’s the same wolves fan, i dont know.

[RalphSampsonJr]

Congrats on becoming a mod, TB!

Here is a trade I posted over on the Trade Board, was curious of your guys' thoughts.

MIN: Danilo Gallinari
OUT: Jeff Teague and Minnesota's 2020 First Round Draft Pick (1-20 Protected; becomes two seconds)

Why for Minnesota? Get the bird-rights to one of the most dynamic three-point shooters in the entire league, further opening up the lane for Andrew Wiggins.

OKC: Jeff Teague and Minnesota's 2020 First Round Draft Pick (1-20 Protected; becomes two seconds)
OUT: Danilo Gallinari

Why for Oklahoma City? Potentially acquire a late-first, get out of the Luxury-Tax, and get a player who can be flipped again in Jeff Teague.

Ideally you find a third team for Teague, but regardless, that is the framework.

So OKC likely only gets two 2nd rounders and a 4th PG?

OKC say no way.

Teams will become desperate come 40 games in. They will give up a 1st with less protection plus a position of need.

Id give the wolves Galo and a 2nd rounder for RoCo

[ThunderBolt]

We don’t need RoCo.

[Domejandro]

Continuing the board raid (I agree with that position, I'd personally knock the protections down to 1-14), here is something else more ridiculous to consider.

MIN: Jrue Holiday and Danilo Gallinari
OUT: Jeff Teague, Gorgui Dieng, Jarrett Culver, a couple firsts, and a couple seconds.

NOP: Jeff Teague, two lightly protected/unprotected Minnesota firsts, picks from Oklahoma City, and miscellaneous seconds.
OUT: Jrue Holiday

OKC: Gorgui Dieng and Jarrett Culver
OUT: Danilo Gallinari and picks

So here is the question I pose: How many picks (and what picks) would it take to make New Orleans happy, while not gouging Oklahoma City?

What would you all be comfortable to give up pick-wise (since you have seventy) to complete this kind of trade?

[ThunderBolt]

Continuing the board raid (I agree with that position, I'd personally knock the protections down to 1-14), here is something else more ridiculous to consider.

MIN: Jrue Holiday and Danilo Gallinari
OUT: Jeff Teague, Gorgui Dieng, Jarrett Culver, a couple firsts, and a couple seconds.

NOP: Jeff Teague, two lightly protected Minnesota firsts, picks from Oklahoma City, and miscellaneous seconds.
OUT: Jrue Holiday

OKC: Gorgui Dieng and Jarrett Culver
OUT: Danilo Gallinari and picks

So here is the question I pose: How many picks (and what picks) would it take to make New Orleans happy, while not gouging Oklahoma City?

What would you all be comfortable to give up pick wise (since you have seventy) to complete this kind of trade?

I would like to have culver. I don’t think his value has changed much from the sixth pick. No worse, no better. I haven’t watched him play but it looks like he’s had some decent games.

As far as picks go, let’s says Gallo is worth a lotto protected pick around 20-25? Maybe that’s too high. Okc is taking back some salary with Dieng so that’s a factor. I kind of feel like Gallo and a pick might not be enough and Gallo and two picks seems like too much. I would assume OKC starts with the Denver pick. I also would assume any of the picks far out are off limits since they are so unknown.

[Domejandro]

I would like to have culver. I don’t think his value has changed much from the sixth pick. No worse, no better. I haven’t watched him play but it looks like he’s had some decent games.

As far as picks go, let’s says Gallo is worth a lotto protected pick around 20-25? Maybe that’s too high. Okc is taking back some salary with Dieng so that’s a factor. I kind of feel like Gallo and a pick might not be enough and Gallo and two picks seems like too much. I would assume OKC starts with the Denver pick. I also would assume any of the picks far out are off limits since they are so unknown.

That is fair, I think I over-complicated it. From your perspective, would Oklahoma City have interest in Danilo Gallinari for Gorgui Dieng, a 1-4 protected First, and a couple/few seconds in a hypothetical three-team deal, or is Gorgui's extra year a deal breaker in that sort of hypothetical? I would imagine lessened protections on picks are more valuable to Oklahoma City long-term than avoiding an extra year of salary, but not sure if that closes the deal.

EDIT: Meant to be 1-4, not 1-8. Typed it wrong, this is effectively the thought....

OKC: Gorgui Dieng, Minnesota's 2022 First Round Draft Pick (1-4 Protected), and a couple seconds.
OUT: Danilo Gallinari

[spearsy23]

I would like to have culver. I don’t think his value has changed much from the sixth pick. No worse, no better. I haven’t watched him play but it looks like he’s had some decent games.

As far as picks go, let’s says Gallo is worth a lotto protected pick around 20-25? Maybe that’s too high. Okc is taking back some salary with Dieng so that’s a factor. I kind of feel like Gallo and a pick might not be enough and Gallo and two picks seems like too much. I would assume OKC starts with the Denver pick. I also would assume any of the picks far out are off limits since they are so unknown.

That is fair, I think I over-complicated it. From your perspective, would Oklahoma City have interest in Danilo Gallinari for Gorgui Dieng, a 1-4 protected First, and a couple/few seconds in a hypothetical three-team deal, or is Gorgui's extra year a deal breaker in that sort of hypothetical? I would imagine lessened protections on picks are more valuable to Oklahoma City long-term than avoiding an extra year of salary, but not sure if that closes the deal.

EDIT: Meant to be 1-4, not 1-8. Typed it wrong, this is effectively the thought....

OKC: Gorgui Dieng, Minnesota's 2022 First Round Draft Pick (1-4 Protected), and a couple seconds.
OUT: Danilo Gallinari

I'd do it. Gets a mid first and out of the tax for a bad contract that isn't prohibitively so.

[Old Man Game]

I'm sure they won't fire Donovan. But I just don't see the point of continuing to roll with him. He's a mediocre coach and he's getting a chance to finally show it.

[ThunderBolt]

Ya I’d do the trade too. Not sure how much Presti values trade Gallo for an expiring as opposed to one more year of a bad player and a couple of seconds. I think the Minnesota pick would be as good as we could get.

[ThunderBolt]

I'm sure they won't fire Donovan. But I just don't see the point of continuing to roll with him. He's a mediocre coach and he's getting a chance to finally show it.

Then root for nights like last night. Competitive losses don’t help our cause. Punting on his year right now is the best option for a lot of reasons.

[Pillendreher]

Paul-Gilgeous-Alexander-Gallinari-Adams/Noel with a 113.7 DRtG per pbpstats.com in 216 minutes. 5.6 pp100p worse than league average defensively. Which also means that the Thunder have allowed 99.4 pp100p the rest of the way.

[ThunderBolt]

Paul-Gilgeous-Alexander-Gallinari-Adams/Noel with a 113.7 DRtG per pbpstats.com in 216 minutes. 5.6 pp100p worse than league average defensively. Which also means that the Thunder have allowed 99.4 pp100p the rest of the way.

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[Pillendreher]

Paul-Gilgeous-Alexander-Gallinari-Adams/Noel with a 113.7 DRtG per pbpstats.com in 216 minutes. 5.6 pp100p worse than league average defensively. Which also means that the Thunder have allowed 99.4 pp100p the rest of the way.

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You're looking in the wrong direction. Russ had the defense humming for years. The starters can't defend anymore as soon as he leaves? Coincidence? I think not.