Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks (NO TPE)

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

he let it be known he wanted out in the middle of last year give me a break with all the great guy stuff. the bum should be mocked just the way thon was for it. seriously who does that? im supposed to ignore that because hes well spokenon tv and builds wells? its a pompous me first not team first attitude for a guy who spent most of his time here just trying to get his body well enough to stay on the court

[ReasonablySober]

We play in a league where the top talent asks off a team and gets their wish every season. If Brogdan was here he'd be asking for a trade and it would have happened.

[humanrefutation]

We play in a league where the top talent asks off a team and gets their wish every season. If Brogdan was here he'd be asking for a trade and it would have happened.

Nah. Players who are playing for legit title contenders and being paid well rarely ask for trades - and even when factoring in that rarity, Brogdon is much more conscious of his professional obligations than most folks are in the league.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Did Bogut demand out? It was a long time ago but from what I recall he was traded essentially to shake up the roster.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-deadline-andrew-bogut-on-the-block/

it was rumored at the time. I remember clearly being a strong backer of his and turning quickly when it happened. don't remember the details. as a backer of the team I feel its my obligation to throw stones when I hear people want out. I cant understand rooting for a guy of ours who likes the bucks less than I do

[ReasonablySober]

We play in a league where the top talent asks off a team and gets their wish every season. If Brogdan was here he'd be asking for a trade and it would have happened.

Nah. Players who are playing for legit title contenders and being paid well rarely ask for trades - and even when factoring in that rarity, Brogdon is much more conscious of his professional obligations than most folks are in the league.

I don't understand why we're all just assuming he'd shut up and play, when he CLEARLY, and in his own words, tells you otherwise.

He obviously wanted a bigger role and that wasn't gonna happen here.

[Chuck Diesel]

Did Bogut demand out? It was a long time ago but from what I recall he was traded essentially to shake up the roster.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-deadline-andrew-bogut-on-the-block/

it was rumored at the time. I remember clearly being a strong backer of his and turning quickly when it happened. don't remember the details. as a backer of the team I feel its my obligation to throw stones when I hear people want out. I cant understand rooting for a guy of ours who likes the bucks less than I do

Also heard Bogut was **** on the city of Milwaukee behind the scenes all the time to everyone who’d listen. Continued after he was dealt to Golden State.

[Pachinko_]

he let it be known he wanted out in the middle of last year give me a break with all the great guy stuff. the bum should be mocked just the way thon was for it. seriously who does that? im supposed to ignore that because hes well spokenon tv and builds wells? its a pompous me first not team first attitude for a guy who spent most of his time here just trying to get his body well enough to stay on the court

Ehm, all of us?
Like, when you're looking for a job and you have two offers, you're gonna pass on the one that offers you a promotion and more money and a more interesting role, because the other company is a few spot higher in the business insider rankings?
As if LOL

[skones]

he let it be known he wanted out in the middle of last year give me a break with all the great guy stuff. the bum should be mocked just the way thon was for it. seriously who does that? im supposed to ignore that because hes well spokenon tv and builds wells? its a pompous me first not team first attitude for a guy who spent most of his time here just trying to get his body well enough to stay on the court

Ehm, all of us?
Like, when you're looking for a job and you have two offers, you're gonna pass on the one that offers you a promotion and more money and a more interesting role, because the other company is a few spot higher in the business insider rankings?
As if LOL

I don't get the Brogdon bashing but Business Insider Rankings and Winning NBA ball games aren't even remotely comparable. You don't necessarily benefit from your company doing really well. Really poor line to draw as a comparison.

[Wooderson]

The Jump just spent a whole segment on Giannis saying he wishes malcom was on the team. Now they are speculating
...

Ah I see you're a masochist.

[Pachinko_]

he let it be known he wanted out in the middle of last year give me a break with all the great guy stuff. the bum should be mocked just the way thon was for it. seriously who does that? im supposed to ignore that because hes well spokenon tv and builds wells? its a pompous me first not team first attitude for a guy who spent most of his time here just trying to get his body well enough to stay on the court

Ehm, all of us?
Like, when you're looking for a job and you have two offers, you're gonna pass on the one that offers you a promotion and more money and a more interesting role, because the other company is a few spot higher in the business insider rankings?
As if LOL

I don't get the Brogdon bashing but Business Insider Rankings and Winning NBA ball games aren't even remotely comparable.

Yes because you're thinking about it as a fan and it's not your own future on the line. As a fan the only thing that matters is your team winning, as a participant it's a different story.

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[humanrefutation]

We play in a league where the top talent asks off a team and gets their wish every season. If Brogdan was here he'd be asking for a trade and it would have happened.

Nah. Players who are playing for legit title contenders and being paid well rarely ask for trades - and even when factoring in that rarity, Brogdon is much more conscious of his professional obligations than most folks are in the league.

I don't understand why we're all just assuming he'd shut up and play, when he CLEARLY, and in his own words, tells you otherwise.

He obviously wanted a bigger role and that wasn't gonna happen here.

He never said he wouldn't "shut up and play." Him wanting a bigger role does not mean he would have been a cancer if we matched him and brought him back - hell, it's possible his role would have expanded anyway. You're reading more into his statements than what he actually said.

I'm also not sure why you're assuming the worst with him when he's been nothing but an upstanding professional in his career thus far.

[humanrefutation]

he let it be known he wanted out in the middle of last year give me a break with all the great guy stuff. the bum should be mocked just the way thon was for it. seriously who does that? im supposed to ignore that because hes well spokenon tv and builds wells? its a pompous me first not team first attitude for a guy who spent most of his time here just trying to get his body well enough to stay on the court

Ehm, all of us?
Like, when you're looking for a job and you have two offers, you're gonna pass on the one that offers you a promotion and more money and a more interesting role, because the other company is a few spot higher in the business insider rankings?
As if LOL

GOS's issues with Brogdon are personal. I don't think you need to spend more time analyzing it than that.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

he let it be known he wanted out in the middle of last year give me a break with all the great guy stuff. the bum should be mocked just the way thon was for it. seriously who does that? im supposed to ignore that because hes well spokenon tv and builds wells? its a pompous me first not team first attitude for a guy who spent most of his time here just trying to get his body well enough to stay on the court

Ehm, all of us?
Like, when you're looking for a job and you have two offers, you're gonna pass on the one that offers you a promotion and more money and a more interesting role, because the other company is a few spot higher in the business insider rankings?
As if LOL

yeah yeah yeah. thon just wanted more opportunity and kevin Durant just wanted to win rings blah blah blah. I always get a kick out of the whole pro sports is just like any other job analogy like when the car salesman goes to ford from chevy its just the same right?

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

he let it be known he wanted out in the middle of last year give me a break with all the great guy stuff. the bum should be mocked just the way thon was for it. seriously who does that? im supposed to ignore that because hes well spokenon tv and builds wells? its a pompous me first not team first attitude for a guy who spent most of his time here just trying to get his body well enough to stay on the court

Ehm, all of us?
Like, when you're looking for a job and you have two offers, you're gonna pass on the one that offers you a promotion and more money and a more interesting role, because the other company is a few spot higher in the business insider rankings?
As if LOL

GOS's issues with Brogdon are personal. I don't think you need to spend more time analyzing it than that.

yeah im a bucks fan. if i was a toronto fan id be the one talking **** about kawhi right now too. ive missed 20 bucks games in 20 years 15k posts on this site how the hell isn't it personal. ive got rabies for crissakes

[Wooderson]

If Giannis had hit RFA and indicated he preferred to play elsewhere would you guys have obliged?

[skones]

Ehm, all of us?
Like, when you're looking for a job and you have two offers, you're gonna pass on the one that offers you a promotion and more money and a more interesting role, because the other company is a few spot higher in the business insider rankings?
As if LOL

I don't get the Brogdon bashing but Business Insider Rankings and Winning NBA ball games aren't even remotely comparable.

Yes because you're thinking about it as a fan and it's not your own future on the line. As a fan the only thing that matters is your team winning, as a participant it's a different story.

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No, I'm not thinking about it as a fan. I'm thinking about it logically with an ENORMOUS amount of evidence to show my work with. Guys are competitive, they play to win, and that ABSOLUTELY matters in the NBA when it comes to players picking where they go. Acting as if it doesn't play a substantial role given what happens on a year to year basis in the NBA is nonsensical. Player movement speaks for itself here. Those "few spots higher in the business insider rankings" as it pertains to the NBA matter a great deal.

I'm not advocating Brogdon take some sort of bargain bin deal to win ball games, but then again, I'm not the one drawing a stupid comparison to the performance of a business and how that affects a joe schmoe off the street's paycheck vs. the performance of an NBA ball club.

[HaroldinGMinor]

If Giannis had hit RFA and indicated he preferred to play elsewhere would you guys have obliged?

This is like comparing an apple to an orangutan anus.

[Wooderson]

If Giannis had hit RFA and indicated he preferred to play elsewhere would you guys have obliged?

This is like comparing an apple to an orangutan anus.

So it's a gray area and depends on how much you value Brogdon and his replacements/assets they got back. Thank you for confirming.

[blazza18]

Surprised Brogdon's heath risk hasn't popped up anywhere, or maybe it has? Most other teams would've leaked that **** out for PR purposes.

I can't recall Bogut ever **** on Milwaukee the place. Only ever said good things about it through the media. What he's said behind the scenes is anyones guess.

[ReasonablySober]

If Giannis had hit RFA and indicated he preferred to play elsewhere would you guys have obliged?

This is like comparing an apple to an orangutan anus.

If the alternative was a year on the QO and then he walks for nothing, of course I'm trading Giannis.

That's something that could have very easily happened with Brogdon if the Bucks don't work with his agents and find a deal that works with both sides.