Carmelo Anthony, Blazers Agree To Non-Guaranteed Deal

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Post#21 » by Rollie » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:34 pm

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engelmartin wrote:Amazing that some people still think of Melo as an all-star. He's been a bum ever since he left the nuggets


Except he played the best ball of his career his first 3-4 years in NY, improved his efficiency and even led the league in scoring one season. He didn’t start fading until injuries and age hit near the end of the Knicks career.

The problem is he’s been terrible for the last 2 years, not the last 9 years.


Donovan tried to make him play like Patterson and not like Melo. Standing at the top of the key and waiting for Westbrook to kick the ball out was never going to work.

As for the Rockets, everyone talks about how he played that one game on national tv but they never talk about how well he played leading up to it when Harden was out.
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Post#22 » by Batsy » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:29 pm

FreeBoosie wrote:About damn time. He got Kaepernicked out of nba God knows y lol

Because like Kaepernick he put himself before the team, when you are asked to do (or not do) a particular thing like stop drawing negative attention to yourself and the team, you have to remember they are paying you TONS of $$$ to make rather small sacrifices. I'm not saying its right to blackball them from their sport and there were athletes that were given a second chance after doing far worse things than what they have done (selfishness). I just think they got used to all that $$$ and thought it would keep coming no matter what they do, but now that see the darkside of going from making 10+ million a season to unemployed.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony, Blazers Agree To Non-Guaranteed Deal 

Post#23 » by puja21 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:50 pm

Rollie wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
engelmartin wrote:Amazing that some people still think of Melo as an all-star. He's been a bum ever since he left the nuggets


Except he played the best ball of his career his first 3-4 years in NY, improved his efficiency and even led the league in scoring one season. He didn’t start fading until injuries and age hit near the end of the Knicks career.

The problem is he’s been terrible for the last 2 years, not the last 9 years.


Donovan tried to make him play like Patterson and not like Melo. Standing at the top of the key and waiting for Westbrook to kick the ball out was never going to work.

As for the Rockets, everyone talks about how he played that one game on national tv but they never talk about how well he played leading up to it when Harden was out.


This

Melo's best 2 years came in NY
2013 and 2014:
144 starts
38 mpg
28 ppg
7.5 reb
3 ast
1 stl
.451/.391/.840

Yes, he was good in those 3 games when Harden was out, but also played fine alongside Harden when he was getting mins.
In the 5 games he played over 30 mins, Melo was a solid option: 19.8 pts on .493/.444/.688

People kill his defense, but tons of guys don't defend and still get checks. Problem with Melo for me has always been that he is a ball stopper. Even when he was a willing passer in NY it was still out of the triple threat or post. And that doesn't fly in today's offenses

Lou Williams can't defend either and is a career .421 shooter and a poor .349 on 3PA, but he moves the ball or at least moves "with" the ball. Even in LA where he has been the go-to closer for 2 years, Lou is still averaging 5.3 ast and you almost never see him stall the ball for 5+ seconds.

If Melo is ball-stopping AND not defending, 45% shooting and 40% 3PM won't save him
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Post#24 » by The_Hater » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:24 pm

Rollie wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
engelmartin wrote:Amazing that some people still think of Melo as an all-star. He's been a bum ever since he left the nuggets


Except he played the best ball of his career his first 3-4 years in NY, improved his efficiency and even led the league in scoring one season. He didn’t start fading until injuries and age hit near the end of the Knicks career.

The problem is he’s been terrible for the last 2 years, not the last 9 years.


Donovan tried to make him play like Patterson and not like Melo. Standing at the top of the key and waiting for Westbrook to kick the ball out was never going to work.

As for the Rockets, everyone talks about how he played that one game on national tv but they never talk about how well he played leading up to it when Harden was out.


Melo was leading OKC in FGA’a for the first 6-8 weeks of the season. Not RWB. Not paul george. And their offense was terrible. And that was because Melo refused to adjust to his circumstances and become the 3rd option which he should have been, he always thinks he’s the first option. It was at that point Donovan and the players made adjustments and pushed Melo down the pecking order and into a different role where he belonged.

This is what’s supposed to happen when players get older and lose athletic ability and skill, they have to adapt to a new role or they become obsolete. Melo never figured that out and has become obsolete. There’s not conspiracy and it’s not any more difficult than that to figure out.

As for the Rockets, he had a couple good offensive games but through 10 games he was inefficient overall on offense, horrific on defense and the Rockets were getting outscored badly every time he was on the floor. The negative was badly outweighing anything positive he brought.
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Post#25 » by kenwood3333 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:48 pm

Don't see the fit at all. But its the Blazers, they have not been making good team decisions for the last little while. It has only been successful because of its leader carrying the team.
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Post#26 » by Oncloud9 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:37 pm

Lillard needn't worry about other teams using the janky box and one defense on him - they just jankied themselves by signing the NBAs version of the black hole.
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Post#27 » by Rollie » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:50 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Rollie wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Except he played the best ball of his career his first 3-4 years in NY, improved his efficiency and even led the league in scoring one season. He didn’t start fading until injuries and age hit near the end of the Knicks career.

The problem is he’s been terrible for the last 2 years, not the last 9 years.


Donovan tried to make him play like Patterson and not like Melo. Standing at the top of the key and waiting for Westbrook to kick the ball out was never going to work.

As for the Rockets, everyone talks about how he played that one game on national tv but they never talk about how well he played leading up to it when Harden was out.


Melo was leading OKC in FGA’a for the first 6-8 weeks of the season. Not RWB. Not paul george. And their offense was terrible. And that was because Melo refused to adjust to his circumstances and become the 3rd option which he should have been, he always thinks he’s the first option. It was at that point Donovan and the players made adjustments and pushed Melo down the pecking order and into a different role where he belonged.

This is what’s supposed to happen when players get older and lose athletic ability and skill, they have to adapt to a new role or they become obsolete. Melo never figured that out and has become obsolete. There’s not conspiracy and it’s not any more difficult than that to figure out.

As for the Rockets, he had a couple good offensive games but through 10 games he was inefficient overall on offense, horrific on defense and the Rockets were getting outscored badly every time he was on the floor. The negative was badly outweighing anything positive he brought.


There is no conspiracy. Melo was traded at the end of training camp when he went to OKC. Patterson was the starter. Donovan didn't know what to do with him and just pulled Patterson and put him in his spot. Melo was a liability defensively, but OKC took a hit when Drummond went down. Thats when their season turned. How were they after he was gone?

When he was on the Rockets they won games on that road trip when Harden was out because of Melo. He had to carry the load. Were the Rockets better when he left? Not talking efficency I'm talking wins and losses.
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Post#28 » by LAKESHOW » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:08 pm

Lillard: No need to panic. Sometimes we start fast, sometimes we start slow. This slow start for us is normal. We dont need to panic.

Blazers: We are going sign MELO

Lillard: What Dufuq, time to panic, cause we in trouble. We aint makin the playoffs! We goin lottery yall!!
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Post#29 » by puja21 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:57 pm

The_Hater wrote:Melo was leading OKC in FGA’a for the first 6-8 weeks of the season. Not RWB. Not paul george



Looked this up because it seemed wrong... it is not correct

Between those 3 players, Melo was only the leader in accumulated in FGA after the end of games 2 through game 8.

This is 10 calendar days out of the entire season.

PG13 and Russ swapped the lead back and forth for the next 6 games.

And then Westbrook ran away with it (dramatically) for the entirety of the reg season and playoffs and PG13 was #2 by a long shot

By the 15th game of the season (only mid November), Melo was over 30 attempts behind Westbrook

By the last game of the playoffs, Westbrook had attempted over 600 more field goals than Melo on the year.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony, Blazers Agree To Non-Guaranteed Deal 

Post#30 » by The_Hater » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:39 pm

puja21 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:Melo was leading OKC in FGA’a for the first 6-8 weeks of the season. Not RWB. Not paul george



Looked this up because it seemed wrong... it is not correct

Between those 3 players, Melo was only the leader in accumulated in FGA after the end of games 2 through game 8.

This is 10 calendar days out of the entire season.

PG13 and Russ swapped the lead back and forth for the next 6 games.

And then Westbrook ran away with it (dramatically) for the entirety of the reg season and playoffs and PG13 was #2 by a long shot

By the 15th game of the season (only mid November), Melo was over 30 attempts behind Westbrook

By the last game of the playoffs, Westbrook had attempted over 600 more field goals than Melo on the year.


The time frame wasn’t the important part of my post, I was only trying to point out that Melo was being Melo early in the season and the 2 stars and the coach had to change things, and change Melo’s role, for the good of the team. I guess they took the offense away from him earlier than I remembered.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony, Blazers Agree To Non-Guaranteed Deal 

Post#31 » by alienpick » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:50 pm

The_Hater wrote:
puja21 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:Melo was leading OKC in FGA’a for the first 6-8 weeks of the season. Not RWB. Not paul george



Looked this up because it seemed wrong... it is not correct

Between those 3 players, Melo was only the leader in accumulated in FGA after the end of games 2 through game 8.

This is 10 calendar days out of the entire season.

PG13 and Russ swapped the lead back and forth for the next 6 games.

And then Westbrook ran away with it (dramatically) for the entirety of the reg season and playoffs and PG13 was #2 by a long shot

By the 15th game of the season (only mid November), Melo was over 30 attempts behind Westbrook

By the last game of the playoffs, Westbrook had attempted over 600 more field goals than Melo on the year.


The time frame wasn’t the important part of my post, I was only trying to point out that Melo was being Melo early in the season and the 2 stars and the coach had to change things, and change Melo’s role, for the good of the team. I guess they took the offense away from him earlier than I remembered.


6-8 weeks is VERY different than ten days. Don’t try to gloss over the fact that you grossly inflated stats in your favour. Your name says it all. No one cares what a lying hater has to say.
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Post#32 » by saltybs » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:01 am

All you salty folks need to take off your Max Kellerman dweeb critic hats, forget what led to this point, and just agree that this is a great story line to add to this NBA season. Go Melo! Come on guys, this is going to be fun. Root for the guy!
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Post#33 » by BigTex » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:11 am

saltybs wrote:All you salty folks need to take off your Max Kellerman dweeb critic hats, forget what led to this point, and just agree that this is a great story line to add to this NBA season. Go Melo! Come on guys, this is going to be fun. Root for the guy!


I’d be surprised if he lasts three or four weeks.
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Post#34 » by Cookin Baskets » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:20 am

The question is how much actual time will he see because this will he be his last chance for sure.
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Post#35 » by Rollie » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:29 pm

Cookin Baskets wrote:The question is how much actual time will he see because this will he be his last chance for sure.


He should see a lot early because the Blazers front line is depleted. The real test will be him learning the system and the what happens when injured players come back.

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