Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch

klemen4 · Post #81 » by **klemen4** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:48 pm

I do not want pick this year, even if it's nb.7...its a pg heavy draft in that range and we sure do not need guard.

Do not know how 2021 draft will be, but probably better pick 10-12 in 2021 than higher this year.

brackdan70 · Post #82 » by **brackdan70** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:30 pm

klemen4 wrote:I do not want pick this year, even if it's nb.7...its a pg heavy draft in that range and we sure do not need guard.

Do not know how 2021 draft will be, but probably better pick 10-12 in 2021 than higher this year.

Isaiah Stewart, Jeremiah Earl, Jalen Smith, Vernon Carey all could be good Bigs in the 7 to 10 range. Don’t worry about what the mocks are saying too much. 2021 draft looks really good though near the top. Nothing wrong with drafting a good 19 yo PG though. Look at how many minutes we are giving to Wanamaker.

claycarver · Post #83 » by **claycarver** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:24 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
klemen4 wrote:I do not want pick this year, even if it's nb.7...its a pg heavy draft in that range and we sure do not need guard.

Do not know how 2021 draft will be, but probably better pick 10-12 in 2021 than higher this year.

Isaiah Stewart, Jeremiah Earl, Jalen Smith, Vernon Carey all could be good Bigs in the 7 to 10 range. Don’t worry about what the mocks are saying too much. 2021 draft looks really good though near the top. Nothing wrong with drafting a good 19 yo PG though. Look at how many minutes we are giving to Wanamaker.

He's probably thinking there won't be any minutes at the point next year after Tremont explodes on the scene...and I like the way he's thinking.

31to6 · Post #84 » by **31to6** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:03 pm

claycarver wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
klemen4 wrote:I do not want pick this year, even if it's nb.7...its a pg heavy draft in that range and we sure do not need guard.

Do not know how 2021 draft will be, but probably better pick 10-12 in 2021 than higher this year.

Isaiah Stewart, Jeremiah Earl, Jalen Smith, Vernon Carey all could be good Bigs in the 7 to 10 range. Don’t worry about what the mocks are saying too much. 2021 draft looks really good though near the top. Nothing wrong with drafting a good 19 yo PG though. Look at how many minutes we are giving to Wanamaker.

He's probably thinking there won't be any minutes at the point next year after Tremont explodes on the scene...and I like the way he's thinking.

normally I'm all about keep the picks, draft and develop the picks, but there is such a thing as draft capital too. Could come in handy this summer (either way, really).

brackdan70 · Post #85 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:45 am

claycarver wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
klemen4 wrote:I do not want pick this year, even if it's nb.7...its a pg heavy draft in that range and we sure do not need guard.

Do not know how 2021 draft will be, but probably better pick 10-12 in 2021 than higher this year.

Isaiah Stewart, Jeremiah Earl, Jalen Smith, Vernon Carey all could be good Bigs in the 7 to 10 range. Don’t worry about what the mocks are saying too much. 2021 draft looks really good though near the top. Nothing wrong with drafting a good 19 yo PG though. Look at how many minutes we are giving to Wanamaker.

He's probably thinking there won't be any minutes at the point next year after Tremont explodes on the scene...and I like the way he's thinking.

Uh yeah. I love Tremont but...if you end up with a top 10 pick and a PG is BPA, a fringe NBA guy like Waters is not going to affect the decision.

3D Chess · Post #86 » by **3D Chess** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:23 am

I want the MEM pick this year. They're going to be good, soon.

Post #87 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:25 am

klemen4 wrote:I do not want pick this year, even if it's nb.7...its a pg heavy draft in that range and we sure do not need guard.

Do not know how 2021 draft will be, but probably better pick 10-12 in 2021 than higher this year.

you are right, but getting a young upgrade over wannamaker to replace Kemba in 3 years isn't the worst thing ever. But I too want an impact 4 or 5 with that pick.

3D Chess · Post #88 » by **3D Chess** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:14 am

Darth Celtic wrote:
klemen4 wrote:I do not want pick this year, even if it's nb.7...its a pg heavy draft in that range and we sure do not need guard.

Do not know how 2021 draft will be, but probably better pick 10-12 in 2021 than higher this year.

you are right, but getting a young upgrade over wannamaker to replace Kemba in 3 years isn't the worst thing ever. But I too want an impact 4 or 5 with that pick.

Trade it for a ready made one. Bigs take time from the draft. Kemba and Hayward are in their primes

jcappy · Post #89 » by **jcappy** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:37 am

3D Chess wrote:I want the MEM pick this year. They're going to be good, soon.

You got it. They just beat the Jazz. Now 5-7.... that's about a 10th pick right. No, they seem to be a damn good young team, tho.

brackdan70 · Post #90 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:15 am

3D Chess wrote:I want the MEM pick this year. They're going to be good, soon.

They certainly have a good young core... it’s gravy where ever the pick ends up.

Fencer reregistered · Post #91 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:41 am

brackdan70 wrote:
3D Chess wrote:I want the MEM pick this year. They're going to be good, soon.

They certainly have a good young core... it’s gravy where ever the pick ends up.

Like the Sac pick -- won't be super-high, but considering what we gave up for it it's gravy.

LuckyLeprechaun · Post #92 » by **LuckyLeprechaun** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:10 am

jcappy wrote:
3D Chess wrote:I want the MEM pick this year. They're going to be good, soon.

You got it. They just beat the Jazz. Now 5-7.... that's about a 10th pick right. No, they seem to be a damn good young team, tho.

Record really doesn't mean a whole lot this early. Point differential is usually a more accurate indicator of where teams will end up. Grizz have a 1 pt OT win vs the Nets, a 2 pt win vs Hornets, and a 1 pt win vs the Jazz. Those are all games that came down to a bounce going one way or the other. They could easily be 2-10. None of their 7 losses were single possession games and one of them was a 32 pt loss to the Magic. You're not going to win every close game throughout the season. That tends to regress to the mean.

No, their -8 point differential, 3rd worst in the NBA says they has a ton of losses in their future.

3D Chess · Post #93 » by **3D Chess** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:55 pm

LuckyLeprechaun wrote:
jcappy wrote:
3D Chess wrote:I want the MEM pick this year. They're going to be good, soon.

You got it. They just beat the Jazz. Now 5-7.... that's about a 10th pick right. No, they seem to be a damn good young team, tho.

Record really doesn't mean a whole lot this early. Point differential is usually a more accurate indicator of where teams will end up. Grizz have a 1 pt OT win vs the Nets, a 2 pt win vs Hornets, and a 1 pt win vs the Jazz. Those are all games that came down to a bounce going one way or the other. They could easily be 2-10. None of their 7 losses were single possession games and one of them was a 32 pt loss to the Magic. You're not going to win every close game throughout the season. That tends to regress to the mean.

No, their -8 point differential, 3rd worst in the NBA says they has a ton of losses in their future.

This season, sure. But give their young guys another year of development, plus zero incentive to tank if we have their unprotected pick, and you've got a last season SAC situation ready and waiting.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #94 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:49 pm

Ja Morant is really good. That pick might be garbage next season. I think Ainge and Zarren know this, so I expect them to shop that pick really hard during the deadline.

Post #95 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:52 pm

LuckyLeprechaun wrote:
jcappy wrote:
3D Chess wrote:I want the MEM pick this year. They're going to be good, soon.

You got it. They just beat the Jazz. Now 5-7.... that's about a 10th pick right. No, they seem to be a damn good young team, tho.

Record really doesn't mean a whole lot this early. Point differential is usually a more accurate indicator of where teams will end up. Grizz have a 1 pt OT win vs the Nets, a 2 pt win vs Hornets, and a 1 pt win vs the Jazz. Those are all games that came down to a bounce going one way or the other. They could easily be 2-10. None of their 7 losses were single possession games and one of them was a 32 pt loss to the Magic. You're not going to win every close game throughout the season. That tends to regress to the mean.

No, their -8 point differential, 3rd worst in the NBA says they has a ton of losses in their future.

my thoughts exactly. I'd trade Theis/Semi, griz pick and bucks pick for Ayton maybe but otherwise I hold on to it. I don't see any big men shaking lose or salary i'd give up along with that pick for an upgrade.

themoneyteam2 · Post #96 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:58 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:
LuckyLeprechaun wrote:
jcappy wrote:
You got it. They just beat the Jazz. Now 5-7.... that's about a 10th pick right. No, they seem to be a damn good young team, tho.

Record really doesn't mean a whole lot this early. Point differential is usually a more accurate indicator of where teams will end up. Grizz have a 1 pt OT win vs the Nets, a 2 pt win vs Hornets, and a 1 pt win vs the Jazz. Those are all games that came down to a bounce going one way or the other. They could easily be 2-10. None of their 7 losses were single possession games and one of them was a 32 pt loss to the Magic. You're not going to win every close game throughout the season. That tends to regress to the mean.

No, their -8 point differential, 3rd worst in the NBA says they has a ton of losses in their future.

my thoughts exactly. I'd trade Theis/Semi, griz pick and bucks pick for Ayton maybe but otherwise I hold on to it. I don't see any big men shaking lose or salary i'd give up along with that pick for an upgrade.

Why would the Suns do that? Yes he is currently suspended for PEDs but assuming he doesn't have off court issues, what't the incentive for Phoenix to trade their 20 yr old 2nd year #1 pick who put up 16 and 10 his rookie year?

Post #97 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:26 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:
LuckyLeprechaun wrote:
Record really doesn't mean a whole lot this early. Point differential is usually a more accurate indicator of where teams will end up. Grizz have a 1 pt OT win vs the Nets, a 2 pt win vs Hornets, and a 1 pt win vs the Jazz. Those are all games that came down to a bounce going one way or the other. They could easily be 2-10. None of their 7 losses were single possession games and one of them was a 32 pt loss to the Magic. You're not going to win every close game throughout the season. That tends to regress to the mean.

No, their -8 point differential, 3rd worst in the NBA says they has a ton of losses in their future.

my thoughts exactly. I'd trade Theis/Semi, griz pick and bucks pick for Ayton maybe but otherwise I hold on to it. I don't see any big men shaking lose or salary i'd give up along with that pick for an upgrade.

Why would the Suns do that? Yes he is currently suspended for PEDs but assuming he doesn't have off court issues, what't the incentive for Phoenix to trade their 20 yr old 2nd year #1 pick who put up 16 and 10 his rookie year?

that's the point, i didn't say the other team would trade it. Unless you get a blue chip big on rookie contract, you save the griz pick and hope to draft just that.

zoyathedestroya · Post #98 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:51 pm

Read on Twitter

CelticFaninLBC · Post #99 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:28 pm

Watch Boston end up with Nico Mannion.

GoCeltics123 · Post #100 » by **GoCeltics123** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:43 pm

Agree with the strategy here, keep the pick unless a star becomes available.