GeorgeMarcus wrote:Bob8 wrote:GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Lol. I already showed you his RAPM from last year, which was negative. The “advanced stats” you’re referring to literally just try to approximate RAPM over smaller sample sizes, and use arbitrary weighting systems of box stats to accomplish that. I don’t think you understand the methodology, which is why you fundamentally confused what the stats I used were indicating and lumped all “advanced stats” together as objective measures of player value. Worse yet, you’ve done so in a way that implies you know what you’re talking about and I don’t. Coming from someone who knows a great deal about what I’m talking about, it’s easy to see through your charade and flawed grasp of the material.
Who’s talking about last year? Last year Luka was rookie and maybe even more important all other 4 starters were traded in January. I’m sure he will be positive this year. It’s funny how you talking about objective measures, while you have used 10 games of +/- to make some big conclusions, which is in total opposition of what has been seen on the court. If you have waited at least to get some more data, I would have gave you a benefit of the doubt. But you was just to eager and run directly on GB to show your brilliance and **** on 20 years old player with 10 games data. You have lost all credibility with that move.
“Who’s talking about last year?” —> Did you read the OP?
He was ranked #20 based on his performance last year. The vast majority of the data I interpreted was from last year. The fact that he is double negative 11 games into the season was merely used to sweeten the argument.
You’re saying that your analysis discovered that he wasn’t a star last year? If I remember right you used present tense. You expected that rookie carries a bad team, which became one of the worst teams after 4 starters were traded, Barrea got injured and KP not playing all season? Even prime LeBron couldn’t carry that team. And even now you’re using against him last rookie season, with all trades and injuries and saying he’s not positive player for the Mavs, mostly because of last season data? This look fair approach to you?
Unlike the stats I used, RAPTOR does not give us tangible information to work with. So in this case I could use the argument that "your stat thinks Will Barton is a top 3 player so obviously it's wrong!" and that argument would hold. But again, I'm not convinced you know how to interpret any of these advanced metrics. So this feels like an exercise in futility.
But I can ask you, which is Mavs best player by your superior metrics?
If anyone's insecurity has been showing in this thread, it ain't mine.
