MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened

[Dupp]

Lebrons definitely in it as of now because of team record. His play is top tier and if he gets best record in the league he has a good chance to win.


Giannis and hardens play and output is definitely in a league of its own though. So if either finish above or close to the Lakers record wise they will win. Buts if there’s a decent gap for the lakers you never know. Historically team record is a major factor.

Ftr I also think this is a two man race between giannis and harden but I’m just saying.

[NapoleonII]

I get that it's a regular season award.

But poor post season play has to inform it.

Harden and Westbrook are not in the same league of MVP's as a 93 Sir Charles (over Jordan) or even a 2004 Nash. Nowhere close, either, to any of Jordans or Lebron's.

They're a hell of a lot closer to Tracy Mcgrady.

[jokeboy86]

Giannis is winning by default if they are #1 or # 2 cause of who his sidekick is compared to everybody else's. I have a feeling if Giannis wins it again this year though national media and talking heads will say delay the MVP till after the playoffs and include playoff performance because for some reason (probably cause he's in Milwaukee and foreign born) he's not as popular with the national talking heads as other stars. You know talking heads will lose their minds if he wins MVP over Lebron/AD/Harden/Leonard plus that would give him 2 which a lot of past stars wouldn't have.

[Cavsfansince84]

Giannis is winning by default if they are #1 or # 2 cause of who his sidekick is compared to everybody else's. I have a feeling if Giannis wins it again this year though national media and talking heads will say delay the MVP till after the playoffs and include playoff performance because for some reason (probably cause he's in Milwaukee and foreign born) he's not as popular with the national talking heads as other stars. You know talking heads will lose their minds if he wins MVP over Lebron/AD/Harden/Leonard plus that would give him 2 which a lot of past stars wouldn't have.

Default why? I don't think the media would care if Giannis won a second one either. They don't mind talking up Giannis at all.

[Triples333]

16 for 41.

Honestly **** James Harden and his never ending goal of winning MVPs above all else. You know who I KNOW will fall to a better player in a pivotal playoff game? James Harden. Because he always does. Prove me wrong.

[java051997]

Wow PG with 34 pts for 18mins?

[ken6199]

16 for 41.

It's 2019, we don't look at FG% like that. 16/41 from 2 and 16/41 from 3 are totally different things.

The guy is +16 tonight, the best of the starting five. He is on .619 TS% this season, even better than his last season. His team lost Russ, Gordon, House, Capela, that's three starters and one 6th man. Our big man line up is Tyson Chanlder and Isiah Hartenstein, our backcourt rotation is Austin Rivers and Chris Clemens, our SF rotation is Ben McLemore and Thabo Sefolosha. Google those players.

You had 21 post in this MVP discussion thread, leading the 2nd active poster by a wide margin. All I see is you continuously voice your hatred towards one player with the same line over and over again. We get it, you don't like him. Maybe it's easier for you to just move on and discuss something else.

[Triples333]

16 for 41.

It's 2019, we don't look at FG% like that. 16/41 from 2 and 16/41 from 3 are totally different things.

The guy is +16 tonight, the best of the starting five. He is on .619 TS% this season, even better than his last season. His team lost Russ, Gordon, House, Capela, that's three starters and one 6th man. Our big man line up is Tyson Chanlder and Isiah Hartenstein, our backcourt rotation is Austin Rivers and Chris Clemens, our SF rotation is Ben McLemore and Thabo Sefolosha. Google those players.



You had 21 post in this MVP discussion thread, leading the 2nd active poster by a wide margin. All I see is you continuously voice your hatred towards one player with the same line over and over again. We get it, you don't like him. Maybe it's easier for you to just move on and discuss something else.

LOL save it bud. I know the numbers. I write 16/41 to illuminate just how absurd this guy's usage is.

His eFG% is nothing to write home about Ken. His efficiency being above par is resting on his foul shooting. Period.

And don't pretend like I have been hating on Harden for the majority of these posts. The reality is that I have been propping up Giannis.

Who, in fact, has again by far the best case in the early going. The two way dominant superstar that he is.

[Dupp]

And don't pretend like I have been hating on Harden for the majority of these posts.

He doesn’t have to pretend or really look hard either. Your posts over the last couple of pages and probably all over the rest of the thread didn’t magically disappear.

[trueballer7]

Lebrons' name being mentioned, is the single biggest danger to derail the Lakers' season. AD, who is the primary scorer, top rebounder of the team and the top blocker in the league and the defensive presence that has made the difference insofar for the Lakers, might start seeing things differently.
He was pouting all over the place the other night and he didnt even celebrate his game clinching block at all.

[Saberestar]

16 for 41.

It's 2019, we don't look at FG% like that. 16/41 from 2 and 16/41 from 3 are totally different things.

The guy is +16 tonight, the best of the starting five. He is on .619 TS% this season, even better than his last season. His team lost Russ, Gordon, House, Capela, that's three starters and one 6th man. Our big man line up is Tyson Chanlder and Isiah Hartenstein, our backcourt rotation is Austin Rivers and Chris Clemens, our SF rotation is Ben McLemore and Thabo Sefolosha. Google those players.



You had 21 post in this MVP discussion thread, leading the 2nd active poster by a wide margin. All I see is you continuously voice your hatred towards one player with the same line over and over again. We get it, you don't like him. Maybe it's easier for you to just move on and discuss something else.

LOL save it bud. I know the numbers. I write 16/41 to illuminate just how absurd this guy's usage is.

His eFG% is nothing to write home about Ken. His efficiency being above par is resting on his foul shooting. Period.

And don't pretend like I have been hating on Harden for the majority of these posts. The reality is that I have been propping up Giannis.

Who, in fact, has again by far the best case in the early going. The two way dominant superstar that he is.

He has a huge usage because he is effective and efficient with that high usage. It is that simple.

The Rockets are winning games with a lot of injured players. Harden is amazing, and he is a tough TOUGH cover. Every team tries to stop him, and every team fails.

Yeah, he has a bad game here or there (like every other great player) but his consistency is remarkable.

[Barnzy]

Lebrons' name being mentioned, is the single biggest danger to derail the Lakers' season. AD, who is the primary scorer, top rebounder of the team and the top blocker in the league and the defensive presence that has made the difference insofar for the Lakers, might start seeing things differently.
He was pouting all over the place the other night and he didnt even celebrate his game clinching block at all.

You clearly have not watched many Lakers games

LeBron has carried AD in more games then the other way round. If LeBron is off the court and AD is on, the offense has been trash.

AD is carrying an injury and not playing to his maximum output. And I'm sure he doesn't care what people in real GM say.

[JN61]

I get that it's a regular season award.

But poor post season play has to inform it.

Harden and Westbrook are not in the same league of MVP's as a 93 Jordan or even a 2004 Nash. Nowhere close, either, to any of Jordans or Lebron's.

They're a hell of a lot closer to Tracy Mcgrady.

To be fair. One doesn't have to be Jordan level of player to win an MVP.

[Zummba]

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[freethedevil]

Giannis is winning by default if they are #1 or # 2 cause of who his sidekick is compared to everybody else's. I have a feeling if Giannis wins it again this year though national media and talking heads will say delay the MVP till after the playoffs and include playoff performance because for some reason (probably cause he's in Milwaukee and foreign born) he's not as popular with the national talking heads as other stars. You know talking heads will lose their minds if he wins MVP over Lebron/AD/Harden/Leonard plus that would give him 2 which a lot of past stars wouldn't have.

Default why? I don't think the media would care if Giannis won a second one either. They don't mind talking up Giannis at all.

Giannis is winning because he's playing much better.

[Cavsfansince84]

Giannis is winning by default if they are #1 or # 2 cause of who his sidekick is compared to everybody else's. I have a feeling if Giannis wins it again this year though national media and talking heads will say delay the MVP till after the playoffs and include playoff performance because for some reason (probably cause he's in Milwaukee and foreign born) he's not as popular with the national talking heads as other stars. You know talking heads will lose their minds if he wins MVP over Lebron/AD/Harden/Leonard plus that would give him 2 which a lot of past stars wouldn't have.

Default why? I don't think the media would care if Giannis won a second one either. They don't mind talking up Giannis at all.

Giannis is winning because he's playing much better.

There's 70 games left to be played.

[HBK_Kliq_33]

Siakam has a 1.9 BPM , 19 PER and his TS has dropped by nearly 7% from last season. The effects of being the star on your team. Raptors fans were getting carried away with that MVP stuff. Siakam is closer to Jimmy Butler than he ever will be Kawhi Leonard and raptors fans need to accept that.

[inquisitive]

The MVP winner will be from the team with best record

[RB34]

The MVP winner will be from the team with best record

Unless the team with the best record has 10+ wins on second place, I don’t necessarily see this coming true.

If the Bucks are within a few wins of first and Giannis is still putting up 30/15/6, it would be very hard not to give it to him.

[jimmybones]

Harden is better than Giannis at offense, by some.

Giannis is lightyears more valuable defensively.

Give me Giannis every single time.