Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[leper-con]

A lot of the trade speculation is going to be on hold until we figure out if this tea is a legitimate contender to make the finals.

We need to beat eh Clippers, Lakers, win a rematch with Phillie, and see how we measure out against the preseason anointed contenders.

We need another big and a proven bench scorer.

[sully00]

Brad Wanamaker's minutes are not wholly coming at Edwards' expense. I don't see Edwards' role as a PG. He's more of an off guard. Sure, he can bring the ball up, but I don't see him running the offense as a PG does. It seems to me that there will be minutes for Edwards, and for Wanamaker too. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see that Wanamaker's minutes go up.

I was more responding to the concept that Edwards shouldn't play over Wannamaker because he hasn't "earned it" or isn't the better player. I think Wannamaker should have a role he is solid vet and can make a 3 and he doesn't kill you. But bottom line including the last two games Wannamaker has now scored in double figures 5 times in 50 games Carsen Edwards has scored in double figures 3 times in 9 games and he hasn't even figured out what is going on yet.

He also has 8 games with 3 or less points, compared to just 3 for Wanamaker. We need consistency from our backup PG— Edwards is suited perfectly for his current role. If hes in ‘boom’ mode, he plays more. If he’s in ‘bust’ mode, he wont. High variance shouldnt be what were looking for at this time.

Sure it is. This team is way ahead of the curve on expectations take advantage of the opportunity. I am fine with having a quick hook with Edwards, or anyone else for that matter. But run him right back out there in the next game. Why be caught in a situation at the deadline where your getting ready to give up assets for a veteran rental if you could have the role filled by a rookie you drafted?

[sully00]

A lot of the trade speculation is going to be on hold until we figure out if this tea is a legitimate contender to make the finals.

We need to beat eh Clippers, Lakers, win a rematch with Phillie, and see how we measure out against the preseason anointed contenders.

We need another big and a proven bench scorer.

Regular season match ups are not a great way to measure your ability to contend. In some cases it is all you might have to go on but how a team will perform in a best of 7 just doesn't relate to a random Tuesday in the regular season.

I think how they do against all playoff caliber teams is more relevant than the individual matchups. Win totals tend to tell you a lot about a team. While 40 win teams over achieve and 60 win teams disappoint it is usually in reference to the expectations that those win totals created.

[100proof]

Javonte Green for Christian Wood

Couple of deep bench bounce arounds that better fit the acquiring teams lineups

[Celts17Pride]

A lot of the trade speculation is going to be on hold until we figure out if this team is a legitimate contender to make the finals.

We need to beat eh Clippers, Lakers, win a rematch with Phillie, and see how we measure out against the preseason anointed contenders.

We need another big and a proven bench scorer.

Given the Celtics salary cap position going forward, I think Ainge only makes a trade if he can get a player he can keep for the next 2-3 years. A trade like he did with free agent to be Avery Bradley for a guy with more years on his contract Marcus Morris. Highly doubt Ainge trades for a rental.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I was more responding to the concept that Edwards shouldn't play over Wannamaker because he hasn't "earned it" or isn't the better player. I think Wannamaker should have a role he is solid vet and can make a 3 and he doesn't kill you. But bottom line including the last two games Wannamaker has now scored in double figures 5 times in 50 games Carsen Edwards has scored in double figures 3 times in 9 games and he hasn't even figured out what is going on yet.

He also has 8 games with 3 or less points, compared to just 3 for Wanamaker. We need consistency from our backup PG— Edwards is suited perfectly for his current role. If hes in ‘boom’ mode, he plays more. If he’s in ‘bust’ mode, he wont. High variance shouldnt be what were looking for at this time.

Sure it is. This team is way ahead of the curve on expectations take advantage of the opportunity. I am fine with having a quick hook with Edwards, or anyone else for that matter. But run him right back out there in the next game. Why be caught in a situation at the deadline where your getting ready to give up assets for a veteran rental if you could have the role filled by a rookie you drafted?

This is what I’m saying, though.

He should get his normal 3-5 minute shift in the first half. If he’s on, let him keep going. If he’s off, no second half minutes.

[sully00]

He also has 8 games with 3 or less points, compared to just 3 for Wanamaker. We need consistency from our backup PG— Edwards is suited perfectly for his current role. If hes in ‘boom’ mode, he plays more. If he’s in ‘bust’ mode, he wont. High variance shouldnt be what were looking for at this time.

Sure it is. This team is way ahead of the curve on expectations take advantage of the opportunity. I am fine with having a quick hook with Edwards, or anyone else for that matter. But run him right back out there in the next game. Why be caught in a situation at the deadline where your getting ready to give up assets for a veteran rental if you could have the role filled by a rookie you drafted?

This is what I’m saying, though.

He should get his normal 3-5 minute shift in the first half. If he’s on, let him keep going. If he’s off, no second half minutes.

I get you I just would look at more with the expectation that he is going to get 13-15 mpg and if he is struggling go with more Wannamaker. In some ways this is tough to evaluate honestly because Wannamaker has played really well over his last 25 games but those 25 games spanned like 6 months.

[sully00]

A lot of the trade speculation is going to be on hold until we figure out if this team is a legitimate contender to make the finals.

We need to beat eh Clippers, Lakers, win a rematch with Phillie, and see how we measure out against the preseason anointed contenders.

We need another big and a proven bench scorer.

Given the Celtics salary cap position going forward, I think Ainge only makes a trade if he can get a player he can keep for the next 2-3 years. A trade like he did with free agent to be Avery Bradley for a guy with more years on his contract Marcus Morris. Highly doubt Ainge trades for a rental.

First thing that is always important to remember we don't have to worry about the Lakers, the Clippers, or anyone else out West until the Finals can't really factor that into the equation at this point. The Bucks, the Sixers, the Raptors will be the problem.

We seem to match up well with the Raps. The Bucks and the Sixers are huge mismatches. Right the Sixers can't shoot the 3 or stop the 3 and give up a ton of FT's they just don't have enough perimeter talent and their perimeter woes are more of a concern than Boston's front courts concerns.

The Bucks worry me more than either of those two teams. Their guard play isn't what it was last year but it is good enough offensively even if a little weak defensively. Their post options are just really tough and what we are most susceptible to right now. Strong athletic bigs going to the hole and perimeter shooting C's. I think Grant and Robert can grow into the role we need but they aren't there right now.

Trade options are kind of limited because we have so little salary available to move for rental help. Can't really afford to include Theis or Kanter and the young guys need to bring back something more than a rental.

[jmr07019]

I feel like Khem Birch is a guy we should target. Cheap but a quality player. Better tham Bamba but doesn't play because of Bamba's draft position. Could probably be had for Semi + a 2nd. Not a big improvement over our current guys but would be a nice piece to add to the rotation.

[Slartibartfast]

Kanter and some sweetener for Bjelica is what we need.

A top notch shooting big with heft, passing/handling ability and defensive intelligence. Low usage, high skill.

Would massively upgrade this team. His presence would allow us to play Tatum more at wing (meaning less Semi).

Kemba/Smart
Hayward/Smart
Brown/Tatum
Tatum/Bjelica
Theis/Rob

That's a strong 8 man rotation with Wanamaker, Edwards, Grant and Semi getting situational 9th and 10th man minutes.

[b3n]

Kanter and some sweetener for Bjelica is what we need.

A top notch shooting big with heft, passing/handling ability and defensive intelligence. Low usage, high skill.

Would massively upgrade this team. His presence would allow us to play Tatum more at wing (meaning less Semi).

Kemba/Smart
Hayward/Smart
Brown/Tatum
Tatum/Bjelica
Theis/Rob

That's a strong 8 man rotation with Wanamaker, Edwards, Grant and Semi getting situational 9th and 10th man minutes.

Or a guy like Dario Saric.

[Floody100]

Kanter and some sweetener for Bjelica is what we need.

A top notch shooting big with heft, passing/handling ability and defensive intelligence. Low usage, high skill.

Would massively upgrade this team. His presence would allow us to play Tatum more at wing (meaning less Semi).

Kemba/Smart
Hayward/Smart
Brown/Tatum
Tatum/Bjelica
Theis/Rob

That's a strong 8 man rotation with Wanamaker, Edwards, Grant and Semi getting situational 9th and 10th man minutes.

Or a guy like Dario Saric.

Well considering the Suns are doing alright this year & Saric is one of their starters I doubt they’ll let him go.
Bjelica on the other hand plays for a team that probably won’t make the playoffs & doesn’t even start if Bagleys not injured. Makes Bjelica more of an option IMO.

[b3n]

Kanter and some sweetener for Bjelica is what we need.

A top notch shooting big with heft, passing/handling ability and defensive intelligence. Low usage, high skill.

Would massively upgrade this team. His presence would allow us to play Tatum more at wing (meaning less Semi).

Kemba/Smart
Hayward/Smart
Brown/Tatum
Tatum/Bjelica
Theis/Rob

That's a strong 8 man rotation with Wanamaker, Edwards, Grant and Semi getting situational 9th and 10th man minutes.

Or a guy like Dario Saric.

Well considering the Suns are doing alright this year & Saric is one of their starters I doubt they’ll let him go.
Bjelica on the other hand plays for a team that probably won’t make the playoffs & doesn’t even start if Bagleys not injured. Makes Bjelica more of an option IMO.

He's a starter until Ayton comes off his suspension. But I agree, Bjelica (31) is likely much more attainable than Saric (25). My point was really to agree with Slart; that a fairly skilled, seasoned stretch big that can hold his own on D is what this team could use. I was just throwing another name into the conversation that fits that mold & probably isn't off the table in trade talks. It's a shame we had to trade Baynes to make room for Walker (albeit very worthwhile). He would be pretty rad on this roster.

[Gomes3PC]

Javonte Green for Christian Wood

Couple of deep bench bounce arounds that better fit the acquiring teams lineups

We would need to throw in something of value for Detroit to consider that. I highly doubt Green has notable trade value

[Gomes3PC]

If Sac falls out of the race, something like Kanter, Ojeleye and a pick would be an interesting proposal for them.

[Floody100]

Or a guy like Dario Saric.

Well considering the Suns are doing alright this year & Saric is one of their starters I doubt they’ll let him go.
Bjelica on the other hand plays for a team that probably won’t make the playoffs & doesn’t even start if Bagleys not injured. Makes Bjelica more of an option IMO.

He's a starter until Ayton comes off his suspension. But I agree, Bjelica (31) is likely much more attainable than Saric (25). My point was really to agree with Slart; that a fairly skilled, seasoned stretch big that can hold his own on D is what this team could use. I was just throwing another name into the conversation that fits that mold & probably isn't off the table in trade talks. It's a shame we had to trade Baynes to make room for Walker (albeit very worthwhile). He would be pretty rad on this roster.

He was starting when Ayton was playing.

[100proof]

Kanter and a pick for Baynes.

I miss the aussie viking

[chrisab123]

Anyone think Ryan Anderson has anything left? Might be good veteran depth

[Fencer reregistered]

Anyone think Ryan Anderson has anything left? Might be good veteran depth

What can he do on defense?

[Floody100]

Love to get Myles Turner here.