2020 NBA Draft

Post #941 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:53 pm

Okay good, so it looks like most on here agree with me on Vernon. Ya they're saying he's pretty much PJ Washington with a couple more inches on him. I didn't know if it was just the Duke bias or if I was completely missing something with him haha.

Post #942 » by **Marcus** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:02 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Okay good, so it looks like most on here agree with me on Vernon. Ya they're saying he's pretty much PJ Washington with a couple more inches on him. I didn't know if it was just the Duke bias or if I was completely missing something with him haha.

PJ gonna get a few folks paid before decision makers catch on.

DirtyDez · Post #943 » by **DirtyDez** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:29 pm

Thoughts on the Washington forwards so far? I haven’t seen them but they’re both in the lottery mocks...

clyde21 · Post #944 » by **clyde21** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:35 pm

PJ was insanely underrated, even here on this board which usually does a good job fleshing prospects out, he really was a prototype PF prospect, 6-8 but a 7-2 wingspan, can switch, can score on 3 levels, a good inside-out passer, can run the court, etc.

Carey is none of these things really...he's big and strong but is primarily a 1 level offensive player and has no semblance of playmaking at this point, he's also very meh defensively, gets by by just being a big body no nuance

The-Power · Post #945 » by **The-Power** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:38 pm

DirtyDez wrote:Thoughts on the Washington forwards so far? I haven’t seen them but they’re both in the lottery mocks...

I like Stewart but wouldn't draft him in the lottery I think. Not exactly sure what he can be at the next level, considering his profile I'd say he will be a valuable bench big rather than a (high-level) starter because he is probably best suited to play the 5.

McDaniels will probably go in the lottery on upside alone. But he could take a while to develop and he's certainly not a safe pick. He looks like a blend of Ingram and Isaac but hasn't shown the one area that could realistically be elite for his position (Isaac's defense, Ingram's creation). There is time, though.

azcatz11 · Post #946 » by **azcatz11** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:09 am

Kentucky is playing Utah Valley right now on ESPN2 and they look horrible. I know UK teams always get better as the season progresses

clyde21 · Post #947 » by **clyde21** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:22 am

The-Power wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Thoughts on the Washington forwards so far? I haven’t seen them but they’re both in the lottery mocks...

I like Stewart but wouldn't draft him in the lottery I think. Not exactly sure what he can be at the next level, considering his profile I'd say he will be a valuable bench big rather than a (high-level) starter because he is probably best suited to play the 5.

McDaniels will probably go in the lottery on upside alone. But he could take a while to develop and he's certainly not a safe pick. He looks like a blend of Ingram and Isaac but hasn't shown the one area that could realistically be elite for his position (Isaac's defense, Ingram's creation). There is time, though.

McDaniels is kinda like MPJr, but worse

i think he's a lotto guy but a lot of risk there imo

Post #948 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:23 am

azcatz11 wrote:Kentucky is playing Utah Valley right now on ESPN2 and they look horrible. I know UK teams always get better as the season progresses

UK is really missing that elite player. Duke would be in the same spot if Tre didn't return for them this year. There is no elite player or team in college ball this year.

clyde21 · Post #949 » by **clyde21** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:28 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:Kentucky is playing Utah Valley right now on ESPN2 and they look horrible. I know UK teams always get better as the season progresses

UK is really missing that elite player. Duke would be in the same spot if Tre didn't return for them this year. There is no elite player or team in college ball this year.

UK didn't really have an elite college guy last year either but PJ/Herro were a lot better than people gave them credit for at the time

this year's team is just....so meh, i thought that guy for them would be Maxey but he's been bad so far.

clyde21 · Post #950 » by **clyde21** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:29 am

btw if coach Cal doesn't bring in the elite 1ADs what's he doing there at this point?

azcatz11 · Post #951 » by **azcatz11** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:32 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:Kentucky is playing Utah Valley right now on ESPN2 and they look horrible. I know UK teams always get better as the season progresses

UK is really missing that elite player. Duke would be in the same spot if Tre didn't return for them this year. There is no elite player or team in college ball this year.

I agree - although I haven't seen much college ball yet as I'm still in football mode.

Post #952 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:02 am

clyde21 wrote:btw if coach Cal doesn't bring in the elite 1ADs what's he doing there at this point?

Yup, elite recruiter but when it comes to actual coaching, he's a below average college coach. He's really screwed when the OAD ends in a few years.

Post #953 » by **Marcus** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:16 am

clyde21 wrote:btw if coach Cal doesn't bring in the elite 1ADs what's he doing there at this point?

cashing checks.

MotownMadness · Post #954 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:03 am

Finally got time to watch a college game to scout Maxey a bit and came away not very impressed.

Post #955 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:05 am

MotownMadness wrote:Finally got time to watch a college game to scout Maxey a bit and came away not very impressed.

I stand by what I said before the season started. I don't see him being a lotto guy. I'm just not impressed with him.

DirtyDez · Post #956 » by **DirtyDez** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:33 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:btw if coach Cal doesn't bring in the elite 1ADs what's he doing there at this point?

Yup, elite recruiter but when it comes to actual coaching, he's a below average college coach. He's really screwed when the OAD ends in a few years.

I was surprised he didn’t make the jump up the last two off seasons considering his fingerprints are all over the NBA. I’ve never turned down a lifetime contract before though...

Hoopz Afrik · Post #957 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:46 pm

The-Power wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Thoughts on the Washington forwards so far? I haven’t seen them but they’re both in the lottery mocks...

I like Stewart but wouldn't draft him in the lottery I think. Not exactly sure what he can be at the next level, considering his profile I'd say he will be a valuable bench big rather than a (high-level) starter because he is probably best suited to play the 5.

McDaniels will probably go in the lottery on upside alone. But he could take a while to develop and he's certainly not a safe pick. He looks like a blend of Ingram and Isaac but hasn't shown the one area that could realistically be elite for his position (Isaac's defense, Ingram's creation). There is time, though.

Agreed 100% with your assessment of Jaden McDaniels.

HeadtopChunes · Post #958 » by **HeadtopChunes** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:26 pm

You guys think Paul Reed is a top 20 talent ?

BongBoyKlay · Post #959 » by **BongBoyKlay** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:58 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:Kentucky is playing Utah Valley right now on ESPN2 and they look horrible. I know UK teams always get better as the season progresses

UK is really missing that elite player. Duke would be in the same spot if Tre didn't return for them this year. There is no elite player or team in college ball this year.

I agree there aren't any clear cut favorites to win the title this year, and I think a big part of it is due to Hardaway and Wiseman. If Hardaway doesn't get Wiseman at Memphis, we would probably be looking at a Kentucky team with at least 1 or 2 more top-level recruits. Jeffries most likely doesn't decommit from Kentucky.

Post #960 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:58 pm

I think the Arizona Wildcats should be up there as a favourite for the title.