Ivica Zubac - The long lost Gasol brother

50CalClips · Post #1 » by **50CalClips** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:41 am

When I squint my mind's eye, projecting what Ivica Zubac will look like, I see Pau Gasol with a Skyhook.
Anyone else, just me?

What he lacks in strength he makes up for with touch around the rim.

Scouting Zubac -- What is his ceiling, what's his floor, areas of concern, etc?

50CalClips · Post #2 » by **50CalClips** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:42 am

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50CalClips · Post #3 » by **50CalClips** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:44 am

Poor showing in the Playoff series vs the Warriors...

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But the potential is evident...

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Ranma · Post #4 » by **Ranma** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:27 am

Adria Gasol is actually the 3rd Gasol brother who secured a spot on UCLA's basketball team solely on his last name. The kid never showed any real interest in basketball and only parlayed a half-measured effort after witnessing the fame and success showered upon his more notable siblings.

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TheNewEra · Post #5 » by **TheNewEra** » Mon Sep 2, 2019 5:17 pm

50CalClips wrote:Poor showing in the Playoff series vs the Warriors...

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But the potential is evident...

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We saw later that Gallo was missing rotations and was a step to slow most of the series. Doc wanted to man an example and used Zubac because he’s young and he trusted Harrell more anyway. To not even use him with the bench to keep his reps going was confusing.

Anyway new season

50CalClips · Post #6 » by **50CalClips** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:24 am

What the hell is going on?
The "advanced stats" don't tell it all, but why isn't Zubac getting more minutes???

Currently, among regular rotation contributors...

WinShare
1 - Montrezl - 1.9 (420 mins) ... WS-per48 = .220
2 - Lou Will - 1.5 (452 mins)... WS-per48 = .156
3 - Ivica Zubac - 1.4 (220 mins)... WS-per48 = .297
4 - Kawhi - 1.1 (292 mins)... WS-per48 = .180
* - George - 0.5 (73 mins)... WS-per48 = .343

NetRating
1 - Ivica Zuba - 33 (131 ORtg, 98 DRtg)
2 - George - 20 (122, 102)
3 - Montrezl - 16 (120, 104)
4 - Kawhi - 8 (106, 98)

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Currently, among the NBA (req mins)...

WinShare Per 48 Mins
1 - Giannis - .303
2 - Ivica Zubac - .297
3 - LeBron - .292
4 - James Harden - .282
5 - Karl-An Towns - .267
...

Rebounding Percentage
1 - Drummond - 28.7
2 - Ivica Zubac - 23.1... #1 in Off Reb Pct (15.9)
3 - DeAndre Jordan - 22.4
4 - Joel Embiid - 21.9
5 - JV - 21.7
...

Offensive Rating
1 - Mitch Robinson - 142.1
2 - George Hill - 134.1
3 - Delon Wright - 131.7
4 - Ivica Zubac - 131.3
5 - PJ Tucker - 131.1
...

Block Percentage
1 - AD - 8.2
2 - Jonathan Isaac - 8.1
3 - Brook Lopez - 8.0
4 - Ivica Zublocks - 7.7
5 - Nerlens Noel - 7.7
...

PER
1 - Giannis - 32.9
2 - James Harden - 31.6
3 - Luka Doncic - 30.8
4 - Karl-An Towns - 30.4
5 - LeBron - 29.2
6 - Ivica Zubac - 27.6
7 - Joel Embiid - 26.8
8 - Kawhi - 26.4
...

Defensive Rating
1 - JaVale McGee - 94.1
2 - Giannis - 94.5
3 - AD - 94.9
~~~~~~
8 - Kawhi - 97.9
9 - Ivica Zubac - 98.1
10 - Jonathan Isaac - 98.1
...

True Shooting Pct
1 - Moritz Wagner - .733
2 - Mitch Robinson - .729
3 - Brandon Clarke - .704
~~~~~~
9 - Devon Booker - .663
10 - Ivica Zubac - .663
11 - Kyle Lowry - .662
...

P.S.
This is going off of Basketball-Reference

50CalClips · Post #7 » by **50CalClips** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:30 am

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esqtvd · Post #8 » by **esqtvd** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:44 am

50CalClips wrote:What the hell is going on?
The "advanced stats" don't tell it all, but why isn't Zubac getting more minutes???

Clipper +/- after 14 games

PG 11.7
Kawhi 9.1
Bev 5.1
Trezz 5.0
Green 2.1
Patterson 1.7
Harkless 1.5
Zubac 1.2
Lou 0.9
Shamet 0.8
McGruder -0.6

pretty close to the minutes distribution except for Lou and Shamet

https://stats.nba.com/players/traditional/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612746&sort=PLUS_MINUS&dir=-1

Zubac is getting better every game but at the moment his great advanced stats are also due to Doc playing him only in favorable matchups

Clemenza · Post #9 » by **Clemenza** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:31 pm

He's definitely evolving. Starting to love his game when he plays that is. His shot blocking is really starting to become a thing which is great for us

Yogatti · Post #10 » by **Yogatti** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:43 pm

He needs to play 20+ minutes every game. Let him improve his game and give Trezz more rest

madmaxmedia · Post #11 » by **madmaxmedia** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:59 pm

esqtvd wrote:Zubac is getting better every game but at the moment his great advanced stats are also due to Doc playing him only in favorable matchups

This is it in a nutshell, I like Zubac a lot and am okay with this given that we have the Zu/Harrell tandem. If Zubac was getting less minutes for Marcin Gortat that would be of course a totally different matter.

I think we should see his minutes gradually increase over the course of the season, a lot just depends on how this new team comes together. When KL and PG are both playing, we have less need for Lou/Harrell's combo offense and can probably use Zu's defensive presence more.

I think he could be a pretty effective pick-and-pop shooter. I know we all hate the midrange these days, but the potential is there for him. He just has to be able to translate his good free throw shooting to open catch-and-shoots. I care a lot less about the gaudy 3-point shooting, because in reality the team needs him to play closer to the basket majority of the time.

TheNewEra · Post #12 » by **TheNewEra** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:03 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
esqtvd wrote:Zubac is getting better every game but at the moment his great advanced stats are also due to Doc playing him only in favorable matchups

This is it in a nutshell, I like Zubac a lot and am okay with this given that we have the Zu/Harrell tandem. If Zubac was getting less minutes for Marcin Gortat that would be of course a totally different matter.

I think we should see his minutes gradually increase over the course of the season, a lot just depends on how this new team comes together. When KL and PG are both playing, we have less need for Lou/Harrell's combo offense and can probably use Zu's defensive presence more.

I think he could be a pretty effective pick-and-pop shooter. I know we all hate the midrange these days, but the potential is there for him. He just has to be able to translate his good free throw shooting to open catch-and-shoots. I care a lot less about the gaudy 3-point shooting, because in reality the team needs him to play closer to the basket majority of the time.

Think about the statement you quoted that Doc is using Zubac in favorable situations by playing him against starters? That plus/minus crap gets played out and fans generally dismiss the stat because it’s often used without context.

Don’t let that guy troll you into that BS. Doc has always been goofy with rotations and the back to back showed more than anything Harrell shouldn’t be playing major minutes. Zubac needs to continue to get stronger as a finisher

TheNewEra · Post #13 » by **TheNewEra** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:08 pm

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esqtvd · Post #14 » by **esqtvd** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:23 pm

TheNewEra wrote:
Think about the statement you quoted that Doc is using Zubac in favorable situations by playing him against starters? That plus/minus crap gets played out and fans generally dismiss the stat because it’s often used without context.

argumentum ad populum, a logical fallacy

and many teams are starting placeholder centers and going smallball later, esp at crunchtime

Don’t let that guy troll you into that BS.

lighten up, Francis
this is supposed to be fun