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Post#81 » by Billl » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:55 pm

mattao313 wrote:Am I the only one that doesnt see the similarity between Kennard, RIP, and Reddick? he isnt the run around off screens type his is closer to Belinelli or Fournier.


I'm not sure I've seen anyone say his current game is like Reddick, just that he would be more effective if he took more of the type of shots that reddick has learned to create. Luke obviously looks more comfortable on the ball, but his long term fit in the NBA isn't going to be as a primary ball handler on a quality team. He's going to need to learn to play off of stars at some point.
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Post#82 » by mattao313 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:24 am

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mattao313 wrote:Am I the only one that doesnt see the similarity between Kennard, RIP, and Reddick? he isnt the run around off screens type his is closer to Belinelli or Fournier.


I'm not sure I've seen anyone say his current game is like Reddick, just that he would be more effective if he took more of the type of shots that reddick has learned to create. Luke obviously looks more comfortable on the ball, but his long term fit in the NBA isn't going to be as a primary ball handler on a quality team. He's going to need to learn to play off of stars at some point.

I dont think changing his whole play style is realistic. Maybe let him run some pnr with Drummond more.
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Post#83 » by Billl » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:18 pm

mattao313 wrote:
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mattao313 wrote:Am I the only one that doesnt see the similarity between Kennard, RIP, and Reddick? he isnt the run around off screens type his is closer to Belinelli or Fournier.


I'm not sure I've seen anyone say his current game is like Reddick, just that he would be more effective if he took more of the type of shots that reddick has learned to create. Luke obviously looks more comfortable on the ball, but his long term fit in the NBA isn't going to be as a primary ball handler on a quality team. He's going to need to learn to play off of stars at some point.

I dont think changing his whole play style is realistic. Maybe let him run some pnr with Drummond more.


Of course its realistic. Basically every NBA player grew up being the focal points of their team from elementary school up through college. They have the ball as much as they can handle it. And then they hit the NBA and 14 out of 15 on the roster are no longer the focal point. They all have to adapt and learn to play off the ball more. That's just reality of the NBA. Luke should get some touches in pnr etc, but most of the time he's going to have to play off of a true #1 option in the NBA - certainly if he's going to be part of a championship level team.
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Post#84 » by mattao313 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:04 am

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I'm not sure I've seen anyone say his current game is like Reddick, just that he would be more effective if he took more of the type of shots that reddick has learned to create. Luke obviously looks more comfortable on the ball, but his long term fit in the NBA isn't going to be as a primary ball handler on a quality team. He's going to need to learn to play off of stars at some point.

I dont think changing his whole play style is realistic. Maybe let him run some pnr with Drummond more.


Of course its realistic. Basically every NBA player grew up being the focal points of their team from elementary school up through college. They have the ball as much as they can handle it. And then they hit the NBA and 14 out of 15 on the roster are no longer the focal point. They all have to adapt and learn to play off the ball more. That's just reality of the NBA. Luke should get some touches in pnr etc, but most of the time he's going to have to play off of a true #1 option in the NBA - certainly if he's going to be part of a championship level team.

Yes but he isnt a screen runner that is not simplifying his game but asking him to do something he isn't comfortable with. Being a spot up shooter and secondary ball handler is.
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Post#85 » by Billl » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:06 pm

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mattao313 wrote:I dont think changing his whole play style is realistic. Maybe let him run some pnr with Drummond more.


Of course its realistic. Basically every NBA player grew up being the focal points of their team from elementary school up through college. They have the ball as much as they can handle it. And then they hit the NBA and 14 out of 15 on the roster are no longer the focal point. They all have to adapt and learn to play off the ball more. That's just reality of the NBA. Luke should get some touches in pnr etc, but most of the time he's going to have to play off of a true #1 option in the NBA - certainly if he's going to be part of a championship level team.

Yes but he isnt a screen runner that is not simplifying his game but asking him to do something he isn't comfortable with. Being a spot up shooter and secondary ball handler is.


If you think your 2 guard - whose primary skill is shooting - can't run off a screen, then you should just trade him now. It's something he needs to add to his game if he wants to contribute on a championship caliber team.
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Re: Luke Kennard 10 games in. Growth. 

Post#86 » by mattao313 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:10 am

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Of course its realistic. Basically every NBA player grew up being the focal points of their team from elementary school up through college. They have the ball as much as they can handle it. And then they hit the NBA and 14 out of 15 on the roster are no longer the focal point. They all have to adapt and learn to play off the ball more. That's just reality of the NBA. Luke should get some touches in pnr etc, but most of the time he's going to have to play off of a true #1 option in the NBA - certainly if he's going to be part of a championship level team.

Yes but he isnt a screen runner that is not simplifying his game but asking him to do something he isn't comfortable with. Being a spot up shooter and secondary ball handler is.


If you think your 2 guard - whose primary skill is shooting - can't run off a screen, then you should just trade him now. It's something he needs to add to his game if he wants to contribute on a championship caliber team.

NAh I dont think his only way to be effective is to be a JJ reddick wannabe.
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Re: Luke Kennard 10 games in. Growth. 

Post#87 » by Pharaoh » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:33 am

Luke does need to work on coming off screens but he needs to work on a lot of things.

He lacks athleticism and thats ok, dude needs to work on positioning and creating space with his dribble and body bumps more than most. Watch Luka for how effective you can be without being able to jump out of the gym.

Luke's best role would be as a secondary creator anyway - if he's your primary perimeter threat you're not getting very far and the days of Rip are long gone.

How many dudes in the league today could lace Rip's shoes playing that way? Better question is how many teams play that way in the first place? Not saying that's a good thing...it is what it is

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Post#88 » by jakebernat » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:31 am

Pharaoh wrote:Luke does need to work on coming off screens but he needs to work on a lot of things.

He lacks athleticism and thats ok, dude needs to work on positioning and creating space with his dribble and body bumps more than most. Watch Luka for how effective you can be without being able to jump out of the gym.

Luke's best role would be as a secondary creator anyway - if he's your primary perimeter threat you're not getting very far and the days of Rip are long gone.

How many dudes in the league today could lace Rip's shoes playing that way? Better question is how many teams play that way in the first place? Not saying that's a good thing...it is what it is

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Luka is the perfect example of how you can dominate the game from the ground. He’s not a poor athlete by any means, and neither is Luke, but his IQ and craftiness put him on another level that athleticism can’t do alone.

Not that the two players are comparable talents, but Luke definitely has the skills, IQ, and craftiness to be a real offensive force.

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