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Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!!

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1741 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:48 pm

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Sounds like Isaac will be back tomorrow.

MCW still out. I wonder if they recall Magette from Lakeland.

We are going to need him for that matchup against Pascal.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1742 » by basketballRob » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:05 am

I hope Fournier and Vuc can sustain the good play against a really good defensive team like Toronto.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1743 » by ezzzp » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:10 am

After 13 games:

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The starting unit is looking promising:

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1744 » by basketballRob » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:36 am

ezzzp wrote:After 13 games:

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The starting unit is looking promising:

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Do the have all the players defensive ratings too?

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1745 » by ezzzp » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:15 am

basketballRob wrote:Do the have all the players defensive ratings too?

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This was about the offense. But I don't trust defensive stats for individual performance. They really only work for lineups or team wide evaluation.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1746 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:36 pm

basketballRob wrote:
ezzzp wrote:After 13 games:

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The starting unit is looking promising:

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Do the have all the players defensive ratings too?

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Here we go... Basketballrobs drop mike moment.... No Bumbas defensive rating.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1747 » by GelbeWand09 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:55 pm

ezzzp wrote:After 13 games:

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The starting unit is looking promising:

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DJ really fell off a cliff this year. He had a 110 off. rating last year. 10% worse True Shooting, 10% worse eFG% & 12% worse 3P% :o
He went from one of the most efficient off. players in the leaque, to a player, far under the leaque avg.
I hope he normalize his shooting a bit, would give our bench lineup a big boost.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1748 » by basketballRob » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:59 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
ezzzp wrote:After 13 games:

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The starting unit is looking promising:

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Do the have all the players defensive ratings too?

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Here we go... Basketballrobs drop mike moment.... No Bumbas defensive rating.

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If he had the worst defensive rating it would be posted non stop. Bamba has been a good defender this year.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1749 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:13 pm

GelbeWand09 wrote:
ezzzp wrote:After 13 games:

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The starting unit is looking promising:

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DJ really fell off a cliff this year. He had a 110 off. rating last years. 10% worse True Shooting, 10% worse eFG% & 12% worse 3P% :o
He went from one of the most efficient off. players in the leaque, to a player, far under the leaque avg.
I hope he normalize his shooting a bit, would give our bench lineup a big boost.

father time is calling DJ.... was pretty obvious every part of his game was going to fall down, dude is 32 years old playing starters minutes. Hate the spot we've put ourselves in for next year G rotation. Have a sick feeling it's going to be Fultz, MCW.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1750 » by Knightro » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:20 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:father time is calling DJ.... was pretty obvious every part of his game was going to fall down, dude is 32 years old playing starters minutes. Hate the spot we've put ourselves in for next year G rotation. Have a sick feeling it's going to be Fultz, MCW.


The Magic have the draft, trades and the full MLE to address the point guard position this offseason. Nothing to worry about yet.

I do agree with you that this is almost certainly Augustin's last season in Orlando though.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1751 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:45 pm

Knightro wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:father time is calling DJ.... was pretty obvious every part of his game was going to fall down, dude is 32 years old playing starters minutes. Hate the spot we've put ourselves in for next year G rotation. Have a sick feeling it's going to be Fultz, MCW.


The Magic have the draft, trades and the full MLE to address the point guard position this offseason. Nothing to worry about yet.

I do agree with you that this is almost certainly Augustin's last season in Orlando though.

MLE of 19M won't get you anything of value at the G spot. Trade/Draft is where we needed to grab a guard and let him take his time. Really wish we would've taken a guard and thrown then in G league instead of drafting Jackson who was injured prior draft and was so bad the G league team cut him
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1752 » by nemesis37 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:45 pm

Knightro wrote:The Magic have the draft, trades and the full MLE to address the point guard position this offseason. Nothing to worry about yet.


No way, we need more big mans :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1753 » by Knightro » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:51 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:MLE of 19M won't get you anything of value at the G spot. Trade/Draft is where we needed to grab a guard and let him take his time. Really wish we would've taken a guard and thrown then in G league instead of drafting Jackson who was injured prior draft and was so bad the G league team cut him


I think you're underestimating what you can get for the MLE especially considering we're likely talking about a *backup* point guard - assuming you think Fultz is going to be locked in as next year's starter.

The full MLE is gonna be a little bit over 10M per season. They'll be able to find a highly capable backup PG for that price if that's the route they want to go.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1754 » by VFX » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:49 pm

Knightro wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:father time is calling DJ.... was pretty obvious every part of his game was going to fall down, dude is 32 years old playing starters minutes. Hate the spot we've put ourselves in for next year G rotation. Have a sick feeling it's going to be Fultz, MCW.


The Magic have the draft


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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1755 » by ezzzp » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:17 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
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DJ really fell off a cliff this year. He had a 110 off. rating last years. 10% worse True Shooting, 10% worse eFG% & 12% worse 3P% :o
He went from one of the most efficient off. players in the leaque, to a player, far under the leaque avg.
I hope he normalize his shooting a bit, would give our bench lineup a big boost.


father time is calling DJ.... was pretty obvious every part of his game was going to fall down, dude is 32 years old playing starters minutes. Hate the spot we've put ourselves in for next year G rotation. Have a sick feeling it's going to be Fultz, MCW.


Actually...DJ has already began to turn it around.

In the last 6 games, DJ has averaged 11.5 ppg while shooting 26-57 (45.6 FG% / .566 TS%) including 40% from 3PT range (8-20) + a 31.5 AST% and a 106.3 ORTG.

FYI, DJ Augustin isn't playing starter minutes, both he and Fultz are splitting minutes AND that will begin to change as Fultz gets allowed more.

Also, he's an Unrestricted Free Agent this summer. Just because the MLE isn't enough for a starting caliber PG, its more than plenty for a quality back up PG.
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Post#1756 » by ezzzp » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:24 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Knightro wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:father time is calling DJ.... was pretty obvious every part of his game was going to fall down, dude is 32 years old playing starters minutes. Hate the spot we've put ourselves in for next year G rotation. Have a sick feeling it's going to be Fultz, MCW.


The Magic have the draft, trades and the full MLE to address the point guard position this offseason. Nothing to worry about yet.

I do agree with you that this is almost certainly Augustin's last season in Orlando though.

MLE of 19M won't get you anything of value at the G spot. Trade/Draft is where we needed to grab a guard and let him take his time. Really wish we would've taken a guard and thrown then in G league instead of drafting Jackson who was injured prior draft and was so bad the G league team cut him


Fultz is the starting PG. The MLE is definitely enough to get a quality back up PG.

Also, Jackson IS on the G-L roster and he was and is still rehabbing but should be back by mid season.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1757 » by ezzzp » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:06 pm

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1758 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:40 am

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What about DRTG doe. Lmao. Not a good look for aaron.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1759 » by zaymon » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:22 am

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What about DRTG doe. Lmao. Not a good look for aaron.

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I said it for a while, Gordon is not playing good defense right now. He has tough assingments thats for sure but he is not up to challenge. You could say our guards had it tougher and they did better. I think this season could be a wake up call for Aaron.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!! 

Post#1760 » by pepe1991 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:01 am

Gordon isn't bad on ball defender, but as team defender he kind a blows.
Gordon's whole "gimmick" in nba is to be athletic marvel without much basketball intelligence.
Just when i thought after last year that i was just rude and unfair with that assumption as he improved as passer, he goes whole summer to work on post up , turnaround mid range jumpers. Because ? Reasons.

It's funny how somebody spent 4 months working on part of his game that he menaged to implement like 3 times in 400 min , and shoot 32% from that shots.
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