NBA Trade Thread

[drosereturn]

Andre Drummond is a guy I'd like to pursue. I know he's not exactly what we need given Carter's solid play, but the guy is averaging 20 points, 17 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 bpg, 1.6 spg. He's just an incredible stat stuffer. I'd trade Zach and Carter for him and pray to god that Lauri could figure things out and become a good spacer. Theoretically, you'd be surrounding him with Lauri, Porter, and Coby ... three guys that can shoot.

No way - I’d rather have WCJ than Lauri and I don’t think it’s enough of an upgrade to make It worth that package.

I understand the limits of Zach’s game, but right now two of our biggest weaknesses are Lauri and Otto so trading to build around them is a tough sell

Lauri is barely into his 3rd year. In year 2 in terms of experience.
And still rookie contract yet. Saying he shows more weakness than Zach who should be performing right now is a bit of a stretch.
Not trying to defend Lauri or anything, but Zach is a must go. His trade value was never a lottery pick to begin with.
Lauri depends on the situation whether someone can offer a top pick, or the Bulls can get their hands on CP3.
I say this bc when a bust like Dunn gets free reign for 2 years, it would be disgusting to waste Lauri without a star pg and develop into a star somewhere else. Hopefully that nightmare doesnt turn into reality.

[stepic]

Anyone open to a Zach Lavine for Ben Simmons trade with a few more pieces?

no way the Sixers entertain that.

[LateNight]

Andre Drummond is a guy I'd like to pursue. I know he's not exactly what we need given Carter's solid play, but the guy is averaging 20 points, 17 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 bpg, 1.6 spg. He's just an incredible stat stuffer. I'd trade Zach and Carter for him and pray to god that Lauri could figure things out and become a good spacer. Theoretically, you'd be surrounding him with Lauri, Porter, and Coby ... three guys that can shoot.

No way - I’d rather have WCJ than Lauri and I don’t think it’s enough of an upgrade to make It worth that package.

I understand the limits of Zach’s game, but right now two of our biggest weaknesses are Lauri and Otto so trading to build around them is a tough sell

Lauri is barely into his 3rd year. In year 2 in terms of experience.
And still rookie contract yet. Saying he shows more weakness than Zach who should be performing right now is a bit of a stretch.
Not trying to defend Lauri or anything, but Zach is a must go. His trade value was never a lottery pick to begin with.
Lauri depends on the situation whether someone can offer a top pick, or the Bulls can get their hands on CP3.
I say this bc when a bust like Dunn gets free reign for 2 years, it would be disgusting to waste Lauri without a star pg and develop into a star somewhere else. Hopefully that nightmare doesnt turn into reality.

I'm not really on the Lauri train. Even when he's doing well, I don't really enjoy watching his game that much, so I'm OK shopping him for pieces.

Zach drives me crazy with his bad decision making, but if my only two options are:
A.) See what Zach can do as a second option behind a dominant scorer
B.) See what Lauri can do when the offense is run exclusively through him

I think I'm going with A.

Of course, we could also shop both of them and see what happens. What I'm not really interested in doing is just waiting another year and seeing if something happens down the line. It may be the smart move, or it'll be a mistake and tank their value. Either way, it's just soooooooo much bad basketball...

[UPDATE: Lauri player great last night and I honestly have no idea how we fix any of this.]

[Michael Jackson]

Anyone open to a Zach Lavine for Ben Simmons trade with a few more pieces?

no way the Sixers entertain that.

Ben has regressed this year so far and he has a max... they might but if they do it’s because they know he is not worth the money, which makes it not a good trade.

[weneeda2guard]

I think with lavine I would like to see what he is when he is removed from being a play maker and just called on to score. Which is supposed to be the duty of a shooting guard but because we don't have a quality pg lavine is expected to run the offense, same issue we had last season that sato and coby was supposed to fix but coby might be a worse play maker than lavine and sato is not playing well enough to stay on the floor in the 4th.

1 deal I would pursue is seeing if the pelicans who are going nowhere will part with jrue holiday.

I'm also still on board with a cp3 deal. Porter jr and lauri for cp3 and some picks from okc.

I think both these deals get lavine off the ball and help us fix the offense. Cp3 is owed a lot but he can make us competitive for a couple years then we can work on buying him out in his last year. These guys have to begin to compete sooner than later otherwise they are going to become content with losing and we may never recover. Next it will be banding lauri a deal he doesn't deserve, lavine probably walks once his deal is up , we end up over paying to keep porter Jr here, etc this can turn into a huge mess. Something has to be done, staying this course is taking us nowhere

[TheFinishSniper]

Would Magic be interested in trading Gordon for Lauri?

[MrSparkle]

Well, I would dial Philly and offer Otto/Zach/Sato for Simmons/Harris.

Harris has a terrible contract, Simmons can't shoot to save his life and now his off-the-ball numbers have plummeted too, and those are the stories of the month. Ultimately though, you get Harris on his prime (atleast), and he is a healthy hybrid forward.

Philly gets a deeper perimeter rotation, and spacers, since they're absolutely set at the big spots. Plus a ton of cap flexibility.

Bulls kill future cap-space ($70m+ annual on the tandem). Hopefully become a playoff team with some combo of Coby, Wendell, Lauri panning out.

Oh yeah, fire Boylen. Although his idea of having 3 guys stand still on the 3P line and blitzing PGs might kind of work with Simmons.

[kodo]

Would Magic be interested in trading Gordon for Lauri?

Their main problem is that they need 3 point shooting, so no. 29th in 3P accuracy, Lauri would make them worse

[HomoSapien]

Anyone open to a Zach Lavine for Ben Simmons trade with a few more pieces?

no way the Sixers entertain that.

The Sixers are underachieving and Simmons is having the worst season of his career so far. If this continues, I could see him on the trade block. If Lauri starts to trend back up, maybe there's a trade there.

[HomoSapien]

I think with lavine I would like to see what he is when he is removed from being a play maker and just called on to score. Which is supposed to be the duty of a shooting guard but because we don't have a quality pg lavine is expected to run the offense, same issue we had last season that sato and coby was supposed to fix but coby might be a worse play maker than lavine and sato is not playing well enough to stay on the floor in the 4th.

1 deal I would pursue is seeing if the pelicans who are going nowhere will part with jrue holiday.

I'm also still on board with a cp3 deal. Porter jr and lauri for cp3 and some picks from okc.

I think both these deals get lavine off the ball and help us fix the offense. Cp3 is owed a lot but he can make us competitive for a couple years then we can work on buying him out in his last year. These guys have to begin to compete sooner than later otherwise they are going to become content with losing and we may never recover. Next it will be banding lauri a deal he doesn't deserve, lavine probably walks once his deal is up , we end up over paying to keep porter Jr here, etc this can turn into a huge mess. Something has to be done, staying this course is taking us nowhere

It seems like Lauri doesn't need to be part of this deal. CP3's contract is so bad that you'd possibly be able to do Paul and pick(s) for Porter and Dunn or Felicio. It'd be a risky trade, but I'm with you that a true point guard is what this team is lacking the most.

[League Circles]

One of the only things that isn't depressing right now about our team is that we are actually pretty well positioned for trades. We're not good so we don't have any chemistry concerns to worry about, we have a number of what should be relatively attractive trade pieces, so when you put 2 or 3 of them together we may be able to grab someone good. Assets:

Tier 1:
2020 #1 pick
Lauri
Carter

Tier 2:
Coby
Zach
Porter

That's probably it in terms of pieces that may actually have some real value, but the nice thing is that we'd have some decent pieces remaining to fill in any holes in Gafford, Young, Arci, Tomas and Dunn.

I know he looks like dog **** right now but I'm hesitant to give up on Lauri, and definitely hesitant to give up on Carter who is looking like he could be an above average starting C without notable weaknesses for over a decade. I'd trade our pick in two seconds with top 3 protection, and I'd deal it unprotected in a package for a true star without hesitation.

I'm also a little hesitant to give up on Coby. So I guess my instinct is to look for trades involving Zach, Otto and/or our pick.

[sco]

Made up rumor but thoughts?

https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/11/19/nba-rumors-lakers-could-acquire-lauri-markkanen-for-kuzma/

[aguifs]

Why not? Do it GarPax!!!

[MGB8]

Made up rumor but thoughts?

https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/11/19/nba-rumors-lakers-could-acquire-lauri-markkanen-for-kuzma/

As bad as Lauri is playing... no.

[drosereturn]

One of the only things that isn't depressing right now about our team is that we are actually pretty well positioned for trades. We're not good so we don't have any chemistry concerns to worry about, we have a number of what should be relatively attractive trade pieces, so when you put 2 or 3 of them together we may be able to grab someone good. Assets:

Tier 1:
2020 #1 pick
Lauri
Carter

Tier 2:
Coby
Zach
Porter

That's probably it in terms of pieces that may actually have some real value, but the nice thing is that we'd have some decent pieces remaining to fill in any holes in Gafford, Young, Arci, Tomas and Dunn.

I know he looks like dog **** right now but I'm hesitant to give up on Lauri, and definitely hesitant to give up on Carter who is looking like he could be an above average starting C without notable weaknesses for over a decade. I'd trade our pick in two seconds with top 3 protection, and I'd deal it unprotected in a package for a true star without hesitation.

I'm also a little hesitant to give up on Coby. So I guess my instinct is to look for trades involving Zach, Otto and/or our pick.

I would target Beal, A Gordon 2nd tier star level players to potentially pair them with a superstar.
This is much similar to a Jimmy Butler route except Beal is much better and Bulls have more cap space to work with.
Best scenario is giving up unprotected 2020, Carter, Lauri, felicio, Dunn for Beal to get that guaranteed star power.
Once thats done get rid of Lavine who is an obstacle for A Gordon.

With a lineup of White-Beal-Sato-Porter-Gordon, they should make the playoffs in a weak East which could then attract tier 1 stars like the Nets did. Its a long shot but they need to start recruiting AD, Giannis, etc.
Big if but if AD and Giannis decide to collude (they both like Chi), the Bulls can theoretically make cap for Beal, AD, Giannis if none takes the supermax.
My expectation is just settle with AD and Beal with Gordon being that 3rd star.
Sato-Beal-Gallinari-Gordon-AD is championship contending team. AD should be very gettable in that LA post lebron is trash and his next destination is home. But they need to make more attractive than LA and Beal is the ultimate answer.

[League Circles]

One of the only things that isn't depressing right now about our team is that we are actually pretty well positioned for trades. We're not good so we don't have any chemistry concerns to worry about, we have a number of what should be relatively attractive trade pieces, so when you put 2 or 3 of them together we may be able to grab someone good. Assets:

Tier 1:
2020 #1 pick
Lauri
Carter

Tier 2:
Coby
Zach
Porter

That's probably it in terms of pieces that may actually have some real value, but the nice thing is that we'd have some decent pieces remaining to fill in any holes in Gafford, Young, Arci, Tomas and Dunn.

I know he looks like dog **** right now but I'm hesitant to give up on Lauri, and definitely hesitant to give up on Carter who is looking like he could be an above average starting C without notable weaknesses for over a decade. I'd trade our pick in two seconds with top 3 protection, and I'd deal it unprotected in a package for a true star without hesitation.

I'm also a little hesitant to give up on Coby. So I guess my instinct is to look for trades involving Zach, Otto and/or our pick.

I would target Beal, A Gordon 2nd tier star level players to potentially pair them with a superstar.
This is much similar to a Jimmy Butler route except Beal is much better and Bulls have more cap space to work with.
Best scenario is giving up unprotected 2020, Carter, Lauri, felicio, Dunn for Beal to get that guaranteed star power.
Once thats done get rid of Lavine who is an obstacle for A Gordon.

With a lineup of White-Beal-Sato-Porter-Gordon, they should make the playoffs in a weak East which could then attract tier 1 stars like the Nets did. Its a long shot but they need to start recruiting AD, Giannis, etc.
Big if but if AD and Giannis decide to collude (they both like Chi), the Bulls can theoretically make cap for Beal, AD, Giannis if none takes the supermax.
My expectation is just settle with AD and Beal with Gordon being that 3rd star.
Sato-Beal-Gallinari-Gordon-AD is championship contending team. AD should be very gettable in that LA post lebron is trash and his next destination is home. But they need to make more attractive than LA and Beal is the ultimate answer.

I wouldn't touch that trade for the Bulls. Beal is very nice but hardly elite in this league. Definitely not as good as Jimmy was IMO. I wouldn't trade for Beal at all unless Lavine could be dumped first, and I wouldn't offer our three best assets for the best player on a team even worse than us.

[NoZoLakers]

dam was just about to ask bout a deal around Kuzma/Lauri....think it could work, Kuzma aint shy about chucking up shots thats for sure but he's not gona look good playing with Lavine since both are no D all chucking type guys

[leo921]

In the line of thinking about play makers what about-

Bulls trade - Lavine/Dunn/Felico for (can also work as Lavine/Dunn/Valentine)
Raptors trade -Lowry

Bulls move forward with lowry/white/Otto/Lauri/Carter with Archi Young Gafford off the bench. Lowry can play uptempo and get everybody better looks and spots they can succeed in. Be a really good mentor for White and help Lauri/Carter/Gafford to grow. Lowry is only on the books for this year and next so not a ton of commitment and can still be players in 2021 FA.

Raptors move on to Van Fleet as the PG of the future. Van Fleet/Lavine/OG/Siakim/Gasol nice uptempo group that can go far today and in the future. lots of flexibility this year and next with Gasol and Ibaka expiring. Have 4 out of 5 starters locked down with plenty of money to spend.

[sco]

In the line of thinking about play makers what about-

Bulls trade - Lavine/Dunn/Felico for (can also work as Lavine/Dunn/Valentine)
Raptors trade -Lowry

Bulls move forward with lowry/white/Otto/Lauri/Carter with Archi Young Gafford off the bench. Lowry can play uptempo and get everybody better looks and spots they can succeed in. Be a really good mentor for White and help Lauri/Carter/Gafford to grow. Lowry is only on the books for this year and next so not a ton of commitment and can still be players in 2021 FA.

Raptors move on to Van Fleet as the PG of the future. Van Fleet/Lavine/OG/Siakim/Gasol nice uptempo group that can go far today and in the future. lots of flexibility this year and next with Gasol and Ibaka expiring. Have 4 out of 5 starters locked down with plenty of money to spend.

Meh - Lowry's old and it just feels like selling-low on Zach.

Also the Lowry/Lauri thing might be annoying.

[kulaz3000]

In the line of thinking about play makers what about-

Bulls trade - Lavine/Dunn/Felico for (can also work as Lavine/Dunn/Valentine)
Raptors trade -Lowry

Bulls move forward with lowry/white/Otto/Lauri/Carter with Archi Young Gafford off the bench. Lowry can play uptempo and get everybody better looks and spots they can succeed in. Be a really good mentor for White and help Lauri/Carter/Gafford to grow. Lowry is only on the books for this year and next so not a ton of commitment and can still be players in 2021 FA.

Raptors move on to Van Fleet as the PG of the future. Van Fleet/Lavine/OG/Siakim/Gasol nice uptempo group that can go far today and in the future. lots of flexibility this year and next with Gasol and Ibaka expiring. Have 4 out of 5 starters locked down with plenty of money to spend.

Why would the Raptors trade Lowry? They could potentially get to the ECF this season after losing arugably the best player in the league. They are likely standing pat.