Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!!

[Xatticus]

As an outsider LAL fan, what would you guys want for DJ (who has been struggling from 3 this yr, worries me a bit)?

Cook, Boogie (waive), 2nd, and cash do it?

Get a catch and shoot type of pg (for 3M next 2 yrs) and a 2nd for more of a playmaker who is expiring. Or not enough?

Augustin doesn't really have any value, but we aren't going to dump him. Augustin would probably actually be a useful piece for the Lakers. He doesn't really do point guards things well, but you don't need for him to pretend he is a point guard.

This front office isn't going to tank though, and what you've proposed doesn't help us at all. We were well below .500 at the deadline last year with Vucevic and Ross headed to unrestricted free agency, but this front office didn't sell. I don't see any reason why they would consider giving up on this season. If you are going to pry Augustin loose, you will have to offer something this front office values, and I can tell you that a second-round pick doesn't qualify.

[NavalAviator94]

As an outsider LAL fan, what would you guys want for DJ (who has been struggling from 3 this yr, worries me a bit)?

Cook, Boogie (waive), 2nd, and cash do it?

Get a catch and shoot type of pg (for 3M next 2 yrs) and a 2nd for more of a playmaker who is expiring. Or not enough?

Augustin doesn't really have any value, but we aren't going to dump him. Augustin would probably actually be a useful piece for the Lakers. He doesn't really do point guards things well, but you don't need for him to pretend he is a point guard.

This front office isn't going to tank though, and what you've proposed doesn't help us at all. We were well below .500 at the deadline last year with Vucevic and Ross headed to unrestricted free agency, but this front office didn't sell. I don't see any reason why they would consider giving up on this season. If you are going to pry Augustin loose, you will have to offer something this front office values, and I can tell you that a second-round pick doesn't qualify.

DJ would be a great fit on the Lakers.


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[Magic_Johnny12]

As an outsider LAL fan, what would you guys want for DJ (who has been struggling from 3 this yr, worries me a bit)?

Cook, Boogie (waive), 2nd, and cash do it?

Get a catch and shoot type of pg (for 3M next 2 yrs) and a 2nd for more of a playmaker who is expiring. Or not enough?

Augustin doesn't really have any value, but we aren't going to dump him. Augustin would probably actually be a useful piece for the Lakers. He doesn't really do point guards things well, but you don't need for him to pretend he is a point guard.

This front office isn't going to tank though, and what you've proposed doesn't help us at all. We were well below .500 at the deadline last year with Vucevic and Ross headed to unrestricted free agency, but this front office didn't sell. I don't see any reason why they would consider giving up on this season. If you are going to pry Augustin loose, you will have to offer something this front office values, and I can tell you that a second-round pick doesn't qualify.

DJ would be a great fit on the Lakers.


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Awesome fit, but LAL lacks the assets and owes us SRP’s already.

[NavalAviator94]

Augustin doesn't really have any value, but we aren't going to dump him. Augustin would probably actually be a useful piece for the Lakers. He doesn't really do point guards things well, but you don't need for him to pretend he is a point guard.

This front office isn't going to tank though, and what you've proposed doesn't help us at all. We were well below .500 at the deadline last year with Vucevic and Ross headed to unrestricted free agency, but this front office didn't sell. I don't see any reason why they would consider giving up on this season. If you are going to pry Augustin loose, you will have to offer something this front office values, and I can tell you that a second-round pick doesn't qualify.

DJ would be a great fit on the Lakers.


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Awesome fit, but LAL lacks the assets and owes us SRP’s already.

Yep. Can’t think of anything.


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[nzahir]

DJ would be a great fit on the Lakers.


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Awesome fit, but LAL lacks the assets and owes us SRP’s already.

Yep. Can’t think of anything.


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There is NO way Augustin is worth more or much more than a 2nd and Cook when I think about it. Add in some cash

Lakers got Reggie Bullock (who was a very good shooter last yr, not great with us though) for a 2nd and Svi (mid 2nd)

Similar talent level, I think Cook has 2nd pick value

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

Awesome fit, but LAL lacks the assets and owes us SRP’s already.

Yep. Can’t think of anything.


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There is NO way Augustin is worth more or much more than a 2nd and Cook when I think about it. Add in some cash

Lakers got Reggie Bullock (who was a very good shooter last yr, not great with us though) for a 2nd and Svi (mid 2nd)

Similar talent level, I think Cook has 2nd pick value

DJ could get a second rounder for us in best case scenario. He is more of a third string point guard on a contending team.

[Hogified05]

Yep. Can’t think of anything.


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There is NO way Augustin is worth more or much more than a 2nd and Cook when I think about it. Add in some cash

Lakers got Reggie Bullock (who was a very good shooter last yr, not great with us though) for a 2nd and Svi (mid 2nd)

Similar talent level, I think Cook has 2nd pick value

DJ could get a second rounder for us in best case scenario. He is more of a third string point guard on a contending team.

lol what? DJ was a starting NBA PG for NBA playoff team last year. He is a solid back up for any contending team. I hope you are joking third-string because that's a bad take.

[nzahir]

There is NO way Augustin is worth more or much more than a 2nd and Cook when I think about it. Add in some cash

Lakers got Reggie Bullock (who was a very good shooter last yr, not great with us though) for a 2nd and Svi (mid 2nd)

Similar talent level, I think Cook has 2nd pick value

DJ could get a second rounder for us in best case scenario. He is more of a third string point guard on a contending team.

lol what? DJ was a starting NBA PG for NBA playoff team last year. He is a solid back up for any contending team. I hope you are joking third-string because that's a bad take.

You guys are all over the place lol, everyone is so divided

I think a 2nd, cash, and Cook is enough. THT is really all else we could add.

He isn't a very good starting pg, but would be a nice backup

[pepe1991]

Going to be incredibly difficult for Magic to win during Nikola Vučević's absence. They are a +5.6 points/100 possesions with him on the floor and a -11.8/100 without him. Also their TS% drops from 55.4 to 45.8


As far as DJ Trade value goes, i don't know. He is UFA next year and +30 in age department.
He is still great shooter, but ofc when you play with Bamba, Aminu, Ross in days when he can't shoot, Iwundu... you won't get good looks because floor spacing is horrid.

It's going to be bumpy ride for next month or so.

[SOUL]

Going to be incredibly difficult for Magic to win during Nikola Vučević's absence. They are a +5.6 points/100 possesions with him on the floor and a -11.8/100 without him. Also their TS% drops from 55.4 to 45.8


As far as DJ Trade value goes, i don't know. He is UFA next year and +30 in age department.
He is still great shooter, but ofc when you play with Bamba, Aminu, Ross in days when he can't shoot, Iwundu... you won't get good looks because floor spacing is horrid.

It's going to be bumpy ride for next month or so.

Eh, I don't want to hear shooting excuse for DJ. He had his two highest FG% years with us with subpar offensive teammates, and it's not like we were great offensively the previous two years... probably even less spacing last year with Fournier not shooting as well as we know he could.

He simply takes too long to get his shot up and is looking for foul calls more than open shots.. if Fournier can have a turnaround year shooting this year, it doesn't excuse DJ. DJ isn't getting focused on like he's Devin Booker or something.

[pepe1991]

Going to be incredibly difficult for Magic to win during Nikola Vučević's absence. They are a +5.6 points/100 possesions with him on the floor and a -11.8/100 without him. Also their TS% drops from 55.4 to 45.8


As far as DJ Trade value goes, i don't know. He is UFA next year and +30 in age department.
He is still great shooter, but ofc when you play with Bamba, Aminu, Ross in days when he can't shoot, Iwundu... you won't get good looks because floor spacing is horrid.

It's going to be bumpy ride for next month or so.

Eh, I don't want to hear shooting excuse for DJ. He had his two highest FG% years with us with subpar offensive teammates, and it's not like we were great offensively the previous two years... probably even less spacing last year with Fournier not shooting as well as we know he could.

He simply takes too long to get his shot up and is looking for foul calls more than open shots.. if Fournier can have a turnaround year shooting this year, it doesn't excuse DJ. DJ isn't getting focused on like he's Devin Booker or something.

I'm not defending him
If he gets traded today i won't blink

He also missed some great looks this year ( 3-20 from 3 when he is open).

Overall, in shooting departmant, Evan has been elite, everybody else shoot bricks.

I just don't think we will get much in trade for DJ nowdays.

[SOUL]

Going to be incredibly difficult for Magic to win during Nikola Vučević's absence. They are a +5.6 points/100 possesions with him on the floor and a -11.8/100 without him. Also their TS% drops from 55.4 to 45.8


As far as DJ Trade value goes, i don't know. He is UFA next year and +30 in age department.
He is still great shooter, but ofc when you play with Bamba, Aminu, Ross in days when he can't shoot, Iwundu... you won't get good looks because floor spacing is horrid.

It's going to be bumpy ride for next month or so.

Eh, I don't want to hear shooting excuse for DJ. He had his two highest FG% years with us with subpar offensive teammates, and it's not like we were great offensively the previous two years... probably even less spacing last year with Fournier not shooting as well as we know he could.

He simply takes too long to get his shot up and is looking for foul calls more than open shots.. if Fournier can have a turnaround year shooting this year, it doesn't excuse DJ. DJ isn't getting focused on like he's Devin Booker or something.

I'm not defending him
If he gets traded today i won't blink

He also missed some great looks this year ( 3-20 from 3 when he is open).

Overall, in shooting departmant, Evan has been elite, everybody else shoot bricks.

I just don't think we will get much in trade for DJ nowdays.

I'm just saying in general, heard people saying DJ is playing worse because of who he has to play with (in bench) but ignored he was also not very effective in the starting lineup, hence his move to the bench.. but yeah.. unfortunately he's been up and down his whole career. Had 2 good shooting years in a row here, but I think he's gonna be on the decline and yep, won't bring much value unless it's a contender in need of a specific skill.

[Knightro]

You guys are all over the place lol, everyone is so divided

I think a 2nd, cash, and Cook is enough. THT is really all else we could add.

He isn't a very good starting pg, but would be a nice backup

I would take THT, Cook and a 2nd for Augustin.

I’m a big THT fan.

You guys would probably have to throw in Boogie to make the $ work because Augustin makes 7.25M and Cook/THT is only 3.9M or so.

[cedric76]

14th Dec

3 way deal

GW send :
Russell and Chriss to Orl
GW get:
AG,Cook and DMC+ 2nd from LAL +2nd from Orl



Orl send:
AG +2nd to GW
DJ to LAL

Orl get:
Russell, Chriss and THT


LAL send:
THT to Orl
Cook and DMC 2nd to GS

LAL get DJ

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

There is NO way Augustin is worth more or much more than a 2nd and Cook when I think about it. Add in some cash

Lakers got Reggie Bullock (who was a very good shooter last yr, not great with us though) for a 2nd and Svi (mid 2nd)

Similar talent level, I think Cook has 2nd pick value

DJ could get a second rounder for us in best case scenario. He is more of a third string point guard on a contending team.

lol what? DJ was a starting NBA PG for NBA playoff team last year. He is a solid back up for any contending team. I hope you are joking third-string because that's a bad take.

I am not talking about last year. This year he has regressed and we are overvaluing him if we think he will fetch us anything more than a second round pick.

[The Real Dalic]

DJ could get a second rounder for us in best case scenario. He is more of a third string point guard on a contending team.

lol what? DJ was a starting NBA PG for NBA playoff team last year. He is a solid back up for any contending team. I hope you are joking third-string because that's a bad take.

You guys are all over the place lol, everyone is so divided

I think a 2nd, cash, and Cook is enough. THT is really all else we could add.

He isn't a very good starting pg, but would be a nice backup

Welcome to the Magic board. This board is always divided on everything. Can make for some fun conversations.

I still would take that deal you offered and would definitely take on THT as well. DJ is a fantastic backup PG who can spot start for any team dealing with injuries and I really like him. He's an elite shooter and FT shooter even though he's not showing it so far this year.

But the reason I'd take the deal is because we replace a shooter with another one who's younger, take a flyer on another young guy in THT, and, most importantly for me, it puts the ball in Fultz hands a lot more. DJ needs to be a spot up shooter nowadays and we don't need him making plays with Fultz here showing he's the superior player.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Magic need to make a move for Malik Beasley, dude has completely fallen out of rotation in Denver... Here's Iwundu and a 2nd for the dude and call it a day.

[zaymon]

Magic need to make a move for Malik Beasley, dude has completely fallen out of rotation in Denver... Here's Iwundu and a 2nd for the dude and call it a day.

Its a very interesting idea but i must admit i am very curious what Iwundu will do with minutes he is gonna get. He looked lightning quick and very decesive with his movement this year. He could suprise us. As bad as he looked offensively at times he made quality improvements every year.

[OrlandO]

I guess we're going to slide Fournier over to SF with Iwundu at SG while AG is out

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[GelbeWand09]

Magic need to make a move for Malik Beasley, dude has completely fallen out of rotation in Denver... Here's Iwundu and a 2nd for the dude and call it a day.

Yea wrote that 2 times already in possible AG trade scenarios He didnt signed a extension too yet, at the same time his minutes dwindled. When he still got playing time at the beginning of the season, he was pretty good.