Around the League - 2019-2020

[the_process]

Doncic with 35/11/10 in only 25 mins vs. GSW

What the Dubs are doing this year is more blatant tanking than even the Process Sixers. Only difference is Hinkie was honest about it.

You don’t get awards for honesty. You get awards for creativity.

Lakers also tanked but they have the Mamba farewell tour.

Problem with Hinkie is he allowed that all time losing streak that red flagged everyone. He also built a roster that nobody in the league wanted to watch. I mean, do you enjoy watching a bunch of dleague players going up against star teams.

Then drafting a bunch of busts in the lottery also didnt help his reputation and allowed more window for critics.

After years of crap about tanking from a legion of blowhard know it all senior citizens parading as the sportsmanship patrol... where are they now? Dead?

[Kobblehead]

Doncic is already better than Steph Curry and James Harden.

No.

I know that take has steam coming from it, but I believe it.

He's matching their production at their efficiency on a winning team at age 20. I think he's already there. This is the best 20 year old we've seen in NBA history.

[Kobblehead]

The only way we can win with Embiid is playing all time great defense. Think about 90s to early 2000 brand of basketball. And the only way to play all time great defense is to can switch and yet be elite on defense. I believe after Ben, Fox is very close 2nd that fits that bill for the PG position.

On offense, Fox is not yet an all level scorer, but he can be one given his trajectory. He can run PnR. He can space the floor. He will not make boneheaded passes on transition like Ben. He will attack the basket.

Given the overall picture. Your best bet is banking on Embiid developing a perimeter game and Tobias developing into a star scorer.

Kings will ask a lot for Fox. Trading Ben for Lavine is a high risk position for us, given the difference in value and the holes in Lavine’s game.

The Warriors built the greatest defense in NBA history in spite of Steph Curry being front and center. You can still hide a terrible defender in an elite defense.

Fox has been taking some threes, but shooting well below league average at it. That's better than nothing, but I'm not sure how much teams will ever have to respect that shot of his. His shooting profile is subpar so it's not like he may be able to drill them in the future. And I agree that he's an aggressive attacker of the basket, but that skill of his is neutralized by his own inability to hit free throws at a plus rate. He's barely over 70%. All those clunks during a playoff series are going to hurt.

I just don't think defense at the PG position should be placed at a premium. All level scoring and offball spacing are far more important for maximizing Embiid and raising the ceiling for this team IMO. McCollum, Lavine, Sexton, etc. I don't think Fox is as good an addition as any of those guys.

[Kobblehead]

Then drafting a bunch of busts in the lottery also didnt help his reputation and allowed more window for critics.

Yeah, Hinkie got the rug pulled out from under him and that sucks, but at the end of the day, he wasn't good enough at his job.

[Kobblehead]

Celtics/Clippers might be a Finals preview.

Jayson Tatum has elevated, in my estimation, to the fourth best skillset behind Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant and Paul George. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander isn't trailing too far behind for the 5th spot.

We could have had both in back to back drafts smhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Negrodamus]

Celtics/Clippers might be a Finals preview.

Jayson Tatum has elevated, in my estimation, to the fourth best skillset behind Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant and Paul George. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander isn't trailing too far behind for the 5th spot.

We could have had both in back to back drafts smhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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A tradition unlike any other.

I know many will still take exception to it, but Donovan Mitchell should be in the conversation as an all around skill set.

[76ciology]

Doncic with 35/11/10 in only 25 mins vs. GSW

What the Dubs are doing this year is more blatant tanking than even the Process Sixers. Only difference is Hinkie was honest about it.

You don’t get awards for honesty. You get awards for creativity.

Lakers also tanked but they have the Mamba farewell tour.

Problem with Hinkie is he allowed that all time losing streak that red flagged everyone. He also built a roster that nobody in the league wanted to watch. I mean, do you enjoy watching a bunch of dleague players going up against star teams.

Then drafting a bunch of busts in the lottery also didnt help his reputation and allowed more window for critics.

After years of crap about tanking from a legion of blowhard know it all senior citizens parading as the sportsmanship patrol... where are they now? Dead?

They will be back. It’s just that they’re not yet overreacting because it still looks like we can bounce back. We were the favorites to come out from the east before the season started and last last week we were no.1 in power rankings.

Once sixers fails bad, they will be back i guarantee you.

[76ciology]

Then drafting a bunch of busts in the lottery also didnt help his reputation and allowed more window for critics.

Yeah, Hinkie got the rug pulled out from under him and that sucks, but at the end of the day, he wasn't good enough at his job.

Imagine what kind of criticisms he’d take if he was at the helm now.

But who knows.. maybe he really liked Brandon Ingram and we wont be dealing with The problems of having Ben.

[Kobblehead]

Imagine what kind of criticisms he’d take if he was at the helm now.

But who knows.. maybe he really liked Brandon Ingram and we wont be dealing with The problems of having Ben.

Yeah, I mean, I was wrong on Ingram. He's been proving me wrong, at the moment. I still would take Jamal Murray, though.

I think I can predict Hinkie's picks given his penchant for skill-less offensive players with athleticism and defense.

2016: #1 Brandon Ingram, #24 Timothe Luwawu (Hinkie would love this pick), #26 Dejounte Murray
2017: #1 Josh Jackson
2018: trade up for Mo Bamba

[Kobblehead]

I know many will still take exception to it, but Donovan Mitchell should be in the conversation as an all around skill set.

Probably. For whatever reason, I'm still a little apprehensive about considering him on a "most coveted" list. His size probably has something to do with it.

[Bum Adebayo]

I mean, saying Doncic is better than Harden is not a travesty at all, one is an all level scorer and the other is just a 2-level scorer, only 3s and layups. You always take the all level scorer!

[XDevilBoiX]

Then drafting a bunch of busts in the lottery also didnt help his reputation and allowed more window for critics.

Yeah, Hinkie got the rug pulled out from under him and that sucks, but at the end of the day, he wasn't good enough at his job.

He still did better then the guy that replaced him and this current group. He didn’t give away picks and most of the time stocked up on picks.

[Kobblehead]

He still did better then the guy that replaced him and this current group. He didn’t give away picks and most of the time stocked up on picks.

That's because he never got the chance to. Given his terrible draft personnel evaluations, can't we assume he would have made a similar mistake in the guy he eventually cashed in assets for?

I'm sorry, but the guy who drafted Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter-Williams, Dario Saric, and Jahlil Okafor wasn't going to find his Harden through trade.

He probably would have landed on Russell Westbrook.

[76ciology]

Ingram. Man... he makes me want to dig up all the posts about wanting over Ben before the draft.

[76ciology]

He still did better then the guy that replaced him and this current group. He didn’t give away picks and most of the time stocked up on picks.

That's because he never got the chance to. Given his terrible draft personnel evaluations, can't we assume he would have made a similar mistake in the guy he eventually cashed in assets for?

I'm sorry, but the guy who drafted Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter-Williams, Dario Saric, and Jahlil Okafor wasn't going to find his Harden through trade.

He probably would have landed on Russell Westbrook.

Yeah. Trading an allstar guard in Jrue over Nerlens is also a big blunder in terms of value. Jrue was injured anyway so we can sit him to lead the tank. Nerlens will never be as good as half of what Jrue is.

And remember how people used to use their wildest imagination on that kings pick that materialized into somebody i dont know who that guy is.

Man.. i bet rondo is way better than that guy.

[Bum Adebayo]

Carmelo Anthony making decent contributions in portland, such a shame we didn't sign him.

[XDevilBoiX]

He still did better then the guy that replaced him and this current group. He didn’t give away picks and most of the time stocked up on picks.

That's because he never got the chance to. Given his terrible draft personnel evaluations, can't we assume he would have made a similar mistake in the guy he eventually cashed in assets for?

I'm sorry, but the guy who drafted Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter-Williams, Dario Saric, and Jahlil Okafor wasn't going to find his Harden through trade.

He probably would have landed on Russell Westbrook.

I agree, his drafting was terrible as was his predecessors. He atleast knew when to cash in on them. BC held onto Noel too long and tried to passed it to fans with that bs fake 1st. Remember the Okafor trade fiasco?

Russell Westbrook is the 3 level scorer as you been stating that we need. Although I dislike him, I rather have him then Al and Tobias. We would be a better team imo.

[Negrodamus]

He still did better then the guy that replaced him and this current group. He didn’t give away picks and most of the time stocked up on picks.

That's because he never got the chance to. Given his terrible draft personnel evaluations, can't we assume he would have made a similar mistake in the guy he eventually cashed in assets for?

I'm sorry, but the guy who drafted Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter-Williams, Dario Saric, and Jahlil Okafor wasn't going to find his Harden through trade.

He probably would have landed on Russell Westbrook.

Yeah. Trading an allstar guard in Jrue over Nerlens is also a big blunder in terms of value. Jrue was injured anyway so we can sit him to lead the tank. Nerlens will never be as good as half of what Jrue is.

And remember how people used to use their wildest imagination on that kings pick that materialized into somebody i dont know who that guy is.

Man.. i bet rondo is way better than that guy.

I can't blame him trading Jrue. What was Jrue going to do, endure sucking for 3-4 years? And Nerlens was the best defensive big man prospect we had seen in this millennium. On top of that, we got our pick back. Winning wasn't the objective.

Saric was whatever. You could say we should have drafted LaVine but that's purely hindsight. He paid zero defense in college and came off as a bit of a headcase, inefficient chucker.

I still contest that Porzingis was the pick but he was pressured to take Okafor. If we're to assume Hinkie was going to take Wiggins over Embiid, then I'm going to stick with that conspiracy theory.

He also drafted Richaun Holmes and Jerami Grant who are both contributors still in the league. I'm not saying that Hinkie was infallible, but I don't think he was a garbage drafter. I think the things he valued is better than our recent GMs.

[Mik317]

all of those "busts" are still in the league. Collars drafted two dudes who aren't in the league in the first. One guy is only still in the league due to us needing cheap shooters. One other forgot how to shoot.

Hinkie missed but he didn't Mr Burnerman miss lol

[youngcrev]

He still did better then the guy that replaced him and this current group. He didn’t give away picks and most of the time stocked up on picks.

That's because he never got the chance to. Given his terrible draft personnel evaluations, can't we assume he would have made a similar mistake in the guy he eventually cashed in assets for?

I'm sorry, but the guy who drafted Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter-Williams, Dario Saric, and Jahlil Okafor wasn't going to find his Harden through trade.

He probably would have landed on Russell Westbrook.

Yeah. Trading an allstar guard in Jrue over Nerlens is also a big blunder in terms of value. Jrue was injured anyway so we can sit him to lead the tank. Nerlens will never be as good as half of what Jrue is.

And remember how people used to use their wildest imagination on that kings pick that materialized into somebody i dont know who that guy is.

Man.. i bet rondo is way better than that guy.

A lot of his draft picks didn't work out. Some of them did. It's a numbers game. Without the Jrue trade this team doesn't bottom out, and then maybe you don't end up with Joel Embiid. Getting #6 and a future probable lottery pick for Jrue Holiday was a good deal at the time.