Injuries: Expired Thread

[fallguy]

Kemba with the high risk way to get in some load management.

[Krkrich]

I remember when Big Al had a concussion last year, he was out for what seemed like 6-10 games if I remember correctly.

[jcappy]

Good thing Semi softened up his rock hard abs at that exact moment. Probably softened the blow. And I thought Semi played a bad game, but that was probably THE play of the game.

Awsome news that he was cleared to fly after the game.

According to some Fox News talk jock who viewed the aerial view of the collision, Jokic stuck his foot out into the lane, the reporter said, to slow Walker down, and tripped him into Semi's stomach. The trip obviously made K's neck bend way forward prior to the collision. The trip could be viewed as a foul or not, but Jokic is starting to be known for stretching his leg out, not as a first step forward, but as a blocking or tripping action.

As to the injury, it's amazing it's not a neck/spinal chord injury. I guess Semi was just soft enough to prevent that. The concussion from this type of impact I don't quite understand, because it sure looked like his neck, not his head. I will bet anything that he was kept motionless because he had electrical sensations in his neck.

[Jaqua92]

Great news about Walker hopefully he can come back within the next two or three weeks!

Even with injuries, you assume the absolute worst case scenario.
Mind boggling.
It will NOT be weeks plural.
It will be less than a week more than likely.

He was clearly trying to be positive lol

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[exculpatory]

Good thing Semi softened up his rock hard abs at that exact moment. Probably softened the blow. And I thought Semi played a bad game, but that was probably THE play of the game.

Awsome news that he was cleared to fly after the game.

As to the injury, it's amazing it's not a neck/spinal CORD injury. The concussion from this type of impact I don't quite understand, because it sure looked like his neck, not his head. I will bet anything that he was kept motionless because he had electrical sensations in his neck.

1. He was quite appropriately & mandatorily kept motionless until cervical spine fracture and/or ligamentous injury was ruled out by CT scan and/or MRI scan. If such an injury was present and his neck was allowed range of motion, the spinal cord could have been damaged de novo or further damaged (BTW, in the absolute worst case scenario, that could have resulted in paralysis or acute respiratory failure/death; the latter is analogous to death by hanging or a frog being ‘pithed’).

2. It is entirely possible that he transiently noticed paresthesias in his extremities and/or trunk immediately after impact consequent to ‘stunning’ of the cord.

3. It is very common for this type of trauma to result in BOTH neck injury AND a concussion.

[chakdaddy]

Thought he had an (Al) Jefferson fracture

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Great news about Walker hopefully he can come back within the next two or three weeks!

Even with injuries, you assume the absolute worst case scenario.
Mind boggling.
It will NOT be weeks plural.
It will be less than a week more than likely.

He was clearly trying to be positive lol

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Well I was legit trying to be positive considering last night it looked like he had a major neck injury.

[exculpatory]

Even with injuries, you assume the absolute worst case scenario.
Mind boggling.
It will NOT be weeks plural.
It will be less than a week more than likely.

He was clearly trying to be positive lol

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Well I was legitimately being trying to be positive considering last night it looked like he had a major neck injury.

VALID point.

Most everything is ‘relative’.

PS Throughout my career, one of the things I emphasize to every new group of medical students or Internal Medicine Residents or Endocrinology Fellows is ‘normal is not always normal or appropriate’. ‘Normal is often relative’. For example, just because a laboratory test value falls ‘within the normal range’ does not mean that it is appropriate. Example: a patient with hypercalcemia whose serum parathyroid hormone (PTH) level is in the mid to high normal range more than likely has primary hyperparathyroidism - as much as a patient with hypercalcemia whose PTH level is clearly elevated.

[Ascrilas]

At this point, I don't care how long he sits out, but don't rush him back, only let him play when we are 100% certain there isn't any risk. Concussions are nothing to **** with, this is more important than basketball.

Plus, I have full trust in our hospital Celtics. A Jay-only show for a few weeks? Sounds pretty fun to me! Giving them 10 games where they have all the responsibility and can grow might be more important in the long run than 3 regular season wins more.

[zoyathedestroya]

I remember when Big Al had a concussion last year, he was out for what seemed like 6-10 games if I remember correctly.

Horford (hit in the head during practice) out 9 games in 2016. Brown (hit head on the floor after a dunk) out 6 games in 2018. R.Williams got a concussion (elbow to the face) in our final preseason game but was available for the season opener about a week later. Tacko Fall also had a concussion (ceiling) recently. Dunno how much time it took him to recover.

I don't think they officially put Kemba on the concussion protocol yet. All they reported was that he was having concussion-like symptoms. The way he rammed his head into Semi's chest and the immediate after-effect looked really bad though.

[ozgod]

Any update on Kemba? According to Adam Himmelsbach of the Globe a team source suggested he may not even have suffered a concussion, but would probably undergo the concussion protocol just in case. Can this be confirmed elsewhere?

The results aside, the best news the Celtics received during the trip was that the head injury Walker suffered against the Nuggets is not considered serious. He plowed into Semi Ojeleye headfirst, collapsed to the ground, and was almost motionless, and the reaction of those around him indicated the possible severity of the situation.

But Walker is expected to be fine, and, according to one team source, may not have even suffered a concussion, although he will likely have to go through the league-mandated concussion protocol because he initially experienced concussion-like symptoms.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2019/11/23/thoughts-celtics-return-from-their-five-game-road-trip/0pMcnGPnvAh3THVIypbOwO/story.html

If he didn't even suffer a concussion, that would be the best news for both Kemba and the team.

[sam_I_am]

Any update on Kemba? According to Adam Himmelsbach of the Globe a team source suggested he may not even have suffered a concussion, but would probably undergo the concussion protocol just in case. Can this be confirmed elsewhere?

The results aside, the best news the Celtics received during the trip was that the head injury Walker suffered against the Nuggets is not considered serious. He plowed into Semi Ojeleye headfirst, collapsed to the ground, and was almost motionless, and the reaction of those around him indicated the possible severity of the situation.

But Walker is expected to be fine, and, according to one team source, may not have even suffered a concussion, although he will likely have to go through the league-mandated concussion protocol because he initially experienced concussion-like symptoms.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2019/11/23/thoughts-celtics-return-from-their-five-game-road-trip/0pMcnGPnvAh3THVIypbOwO/story.html

If he didn't even suffer a concussion, that would be the best news for both Kemba and the team.

I think him not having neck injury or concussion AND sitting out a week is best for team. He has been great but he is taking a beating and we actually look like a very good team. A week or two to see if we can get Carsen and Grant up to speed might hurt our record in short term but may pay dividends later. When Hayward returns, I think it will be easier for the team to score and Kemba won’t be so pressed to put his body on the line as often.

[MrClass]

ye, doubtful against sacto. just a neck sprain.
**** amazing.

[Gant]

It's better than the best case scenario for Kemba.

[Tai]

ye, doubtful against sacto. just a neck sprain.
**** amazing.

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EDIT: Ah, ok. : )

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And agreed. He honestly should just be sat for at least this one game, if not two and go from there.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Just a neck strain is great news considering how bad that looked. No idea what the timeline is for a neck strain but if you come back in the next week or so that would be amazing.

[return2glory]

He had a stringer in his neck a few weeks ago and came back to soon. Than he hurt his hand about a week ago and his shooting hasn’t been the same since. I mentioned a couple of days ago that Kemba was playing hurt and it was obvious to me that it was hurting his overall game and it wasn’t any type of slump.

Now if he has a neck sprain on a neck that I feel wasn’t fully a 100%, the Celtics need to wise up and give him extra time off. If for instance the medical staff thinks Kemba needs about 10 days off, the Celtics should add another week to that.

Kemba doesn’t like missing games, so it would be hard to keep him out, but it’s best for Kemba and for the team in the long run.

This is now 2 neck injuries for Kemba in the last 2 weeks and shouldn’t be taken lightly.

Smart and Wannaker can run the point for now and we could also bring up Waters.

[Bad-Thoma]

PS Throughout my career, one of the things I emphasize to every new group of medical students or Internal Medicine Residents or Endocrinology Fellows is ‘normal is not always normal or appropriate’. ‘Normal is often relative’. For example, just because a laboratory test value falls ‘within the normal range’ does not mean that it is appropriate. Example: a patient with hypercalcemia whose serum parathyroid hormone (PTH) level is in the mid to high normal range more than likely has primary hyperparathyroidism - as much as a patient with hypercalcemia whose PTH level is clearly elevated.

Weird, I tell random people that same anecdote all the time.

[31to6]

PS Throughout my career, one of the things I emphasize to every new group of medical students or Internal Medicine Residents or Endocrinology Fellows is ‘normal is not always normal or appropriate’. ‘Normal is often relative’. For example, just because a laboratory test value falls ‘within the normal range’ does not mean that it is appropriate. Example: a patient with hypercalcemia whose serum parathyroid hormone (PTH) level is in the mid to high normal range more than likely has primary hyperparathyroidism - as much as a patient with hypercalcemia whose PTH level is clearly elevated.

Weird, I tell random people that same anecdote all the time.

Just go easy on it at the Thanksgiving table. NOT the time I’ve learned!