Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch

[Bleeding Green]

You got it. They just beat the Jazz. Now 5-7.... that's about a 10th pick right. No, they seem to be a damn good young team, tho.

Record really doesn't mean a whole lot this early. Point differential is usually a more accurate indicator of where teams will end up. Grizz have a 1 pt OT win vs the Nets, a 2 pt win vs Hornets, and a 1 pt win vs the Jazz. Those are all games that came down to a bounce going one way or the other. They could easily be 2-10. None of their 7 losses were single possession games and one of them was a 32 pt loss to the Magic. You're not going to win every close game throughout the season. That tends to regress to the mean.

No, their -8 point differential, 3rd worst in the NBA says they has a ton of losses in their future.

my thoughts exactly. I'd trade Theis/Semi, griz pick and bucks pick for Ayton maybe but otherwise I hold on to it. I don't see any big men shaking lose or salary i'd give up along with that pick for an upgrade.

Yeah I'd trade a bunch of chaff for the next David Robinson too. Maybe if the Celtics throw in Javonte Green the Suns will send Booker over too.

[Red2]

trade kanter and the pick for Baynes

[Darth Celtic]

trade kanter and the pick for Baynes

illegal.

[Homerclease]

trade kanter and the pick for Baynes

illegal.

Not only that, as much as I like Baynes he’s nowhere near worth the Memphis pick

[Darth Celtic]

Grizz lose to warriors. Great. Pelicans beat blazers great.. Question, why do the blazers suck so bad?

[djFan71]

Grizz lose to warriors. Great. Pelicans beat blazers great.. Question, why do the blazers suck so bad?

Horrible moves this offseason, IMO. Harkless, Leonard and maybe even Kanter are all better than Whiteside. ET’s playmaking is missed compared to Baze. Collins injury was rough. And, they probably weren’t really WCF good last year.

[Darth Celtic]

Right now the pick is 11th, but if you look at actual plus minus which generally works it way out by the end of the year with some close games win/loss, the grizz are worst in the NBA. I still think the pick could come next year, and it could be top 4. They have more wins than current skill should have.

[brackdan70]

This year or next year I guarantee whoever we pick will be the Goat of Goats.

[brackdan70]

I am liking Vernon Carey.

[klemen4]

Memphis will be bottom 6, no doubt.

Gsw, ny, cle, was

Basically gsw+mem from West, other teams from East will be bottom 6.

[Bleeding Green]

Grizz lose to warriors. Great. Pelicans beat blazers great.. Question, why do the blazers suck so bad?

Their second-best player is out for basically the entire season. Collins is out for the season. McCollum has sucked out loud. So 3 of their best 8 players are out or terrible.

Probably the worst SF/PF rotation in the NBA right now (Hezonja/Tolliver/Anthony/Baze; all terrible). Probably gonna be a lost season for them and I'd look to trade McCollum, but he also just signed a hefty extension through '23-'24 so that's probably not happening. Simons looks like he's going to be nasty, but just not yet as he's only 20. Quickest release in the NBA, crazy length. Skal looks like he might be a reasonable rotation player, too. I think if Nurkic were healthy and they could trade McCollum (who is so crazy overrated) for a really quality wing, they'd be really, really good next year.

[LuckyLeprechaun]

Right now the pick is 11th, but if you look at actual plus minus which generally works it way out by the end of the year with some close games win/loss, the grizz are worst in the NBA. I still think the pick could come next year, and it could be top 4. They have more wins than current skill should have.

We really don't have room for a rookie in our rotation next year anyway, let alone 3. Wanamaker is our only sure FA. Semi has a TO which we hopefully decline. Theis is non-guarenteed for 5m but that is a bargain so we surely will keep him. Hayward and Kanter have player options. Maybe Kanter opts out but all signs indicate we will keep Hayward regardless of what he does. (Owners will gladly pay for luxury tax to keep him IMO.) So we basically need to replace Wanamaker/Semi and maybe Kanter. Waters/Romeo can easily replace Wanamaker in 2020. Romeo also replaces some of Semi's minutes along with more minutes for Grant. RW3/Poirier/Tacko can presumably replace Kanter's minutes without a big drop off.

Our own pick and the MIL pick can easily G league in 2020 the way half our young guys are this year.

If the MEM pick conveys in the 2020 draft, that guy is going to have a hard time finding minutes and if he does, it will come at the expense of one of our other young players. So even if that pick is around 12 in 2021 instead of 7 in 2020, the circumstances for that guy are going to be better and our need for him will be greater.

[31to6]

Right now the pick is 11th, but if you look at actual plus minus which generally works it way out by the end of the year with some close games win/loss, the grizz are worst in the NBA. I still think the pick could come next year, and it could be top 4. They have more wins than current skill should have.

We really don't have room for a rookie in our rotation next year anyway, let alone 3. Wanamaker is our only sure FA. Semi has a TO which we hopefully decline. Theis is non-guarenteed for 5m but that is a bargain so we surely will keep him. Hayward and Kanter have player options. Maybe Kanter opts out but all signs indicate we will keep Hayward regardless of what he does. (Owners will gladly pay for luxury tax to keep him IMO.) So we basically need to replace Wanamaker/Semi and maybe Kanter. Waters/Romeo can easily replace Wanamaker in 2020. Romeo also replaces some of Semi's minutes along with more minutes for Grant. RW3/Poirier/Tacko can presumably replace Kanter's minutes without a big drop off.

Our own pick and the MIL pick can easily G league in 2020 the way half our young guys are this year.

If the MEM pick conveys in the 2020 draft, that guy is going to have a hard time finding minutes and if he does, it will come at the expense of one of our other young players. So even if that pick is around 12 in 2021 instead of 7 in 2020, the circumstances for that guy are going to be better and our need for him will be greater.

Is any of that worth thinking about? The difference in the trade value alone between the #7 pick and the #12 pick says no.

[Captain_Caveman]

Memphis has played 10 of 15 at home and is only one win ahead of 2nd worst.

They are also dead last in the Doug Moe Standings (home losses vs road wins).

[reload141]

Memphis has played 10 of 15 at home and is only one win ahead of 2nd worst.

They are also dead last in the Doug Moe Standings (home losses vs road wins).

I do really like Morant though... he's been impressive for them.

Hope they stay in the top 6 and they don't do a Sac on us the following year!

[zoyathedestroya]

Kiss MEM pick (roll over), Marry BOS pick (draft), Kill MIL pick (trade).

[Captain_Caveman]

Memphis has played 10 of 15 at home and is only one win ahead of 2nd worst.

They are also dead last in the Doug Moe Standings (home losses vs road wins).

I do really like Morant though... he's been impressive for them.

Hope they stay in the top 6 and they don't do a Sac on us the following year!

I'd expect him to hit to rookie wall at some point, and sure hope they suck next year.

[Fencer reregistered]

Reminder: Sacramento drafted the wrong guy at #2 and the pick still plummetted, in large part because they'd made a good choice the year before.

[crimsonandblue]

That pick next year is definitely going to be in the 10-14 range.

[robdog_5]

NBA offseason is so unpredictable year to year. I really don't want to risk it. I'd rather use the pick to try to lure a good young big.

A guy like Wednell Carter, JJJ, etc. I know none of those guys are really options but could they be if we make it really sweat? Both of their teams timelines keep getting pushed back and both are due a contract sooner rather than later.