Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba

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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#201 » by CBS7 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:25 pm

picc wrote:I cant believe doncic is as good as the mavs fans said he was gonna be.

That never happens.


I'm not sure any mavs fans predicted 30-10-10 and the highest PER ever in his second season.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#202 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:25 pm

It is shocking how good he is, not even for his age, but for any age. He's still not in optimal shape either, still lots of baby fat all over him and he makes it look easy.


We got fleeced on the Kristaps trade, no way this kid is going to have them in the lottery in 2021.
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Post#203 » by jourdy » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:26 pm

picc wrote:I cant believe doncic is as good as the mavs fans said he was gonna be.

That never happens.


That was only RODDY BOOBWISE
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Post#204 » by Pistol King » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:26 pm

This kid doing everything. If you trap him he will find a way to make a smart pass, if you give him space he will make a shot with high percentage. He's type of step back shooting is impossible to stop. He creates for others, he can also defend pretty well (when he decide), he's so smart. The best player in this league and he's only 20 years old. Insane.
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Post#205 » by zimpy27 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:26 pm

Dr Aki wrote:Haha, Phoenix already had Devin Booker and Vlade didn't like his dad


There will be constant chatter for the rest of his career. A guy this good should never have 3 teams pass him over.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#206 » by Yuri36 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:26 pm

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Hephaestus wrote:A 20 years old Euro just murdered 2 former MVPs.


Mavs vs LAC game has a potential to be something special as well. Beverly, Kawhi and PG vs Luka, damn.



I cant wait and I’m scared at the same time...because of Beverly and his annoyingness


Luka has showed in his rookie year that he could deal with Beverly or Kawhi (he putted 34 pts on the last if I remember well with a nasty 3 on him near the end of the game).
But yeah, I can't wait for this game between possibly two top 4/5 teams in the league
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Post#207 » by Yuri36 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:27 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:I was watching the game and the Rockets barely tried to trap and or double team Luka. Luka is a good player but I’m waiting until he shows out against tougher defenses during the playoffs. Right now he’s facing single coverage and taking advantage of it. Not that impressive.


Well, have you looked the Mavs games this season?
Luka generally gets double teamed very very often if not triple teamed (was pretty obvious against the Lakers and the Celtics)
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Post#208 » by jourdy » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:27 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:I was watching the game and the Rockets barely tried to trap and or double team Luka. Luka is a good player but I’m waiting until he shows out against tougher defenses during the playoffs. Right now he’s facing single coverage and taking advantage of it. Not that impressive.


That's because the teams who did that got ripped by Luka making accurate, simple passes. Dude has Lebronesque vision.
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Post#209 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:27 pm

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Sprewell4Three wrote:I was watching the game and the Rockets barely tried to trap and or double team Luka. Luka is a good player but I’m waiting until he shows out against tougher defenses during the playoffs. Right now he’s facing single coverage and taking advantage of it. Not that impressive.

That's because the NBA isn't full of morons who would consistently trap one of the two or three best passers in the league. That's just begging to get picked apart and eviscerated.


I’d rather let bums like Tim Hardaway , Kleber beat me then Luka. I guarantee you during the playoffs he will get trapped and or double teamed. Tim Hardaway bum a** will have to make shots. Can’t forget the unicorn as well. I’m not trying to rain on the Luka parade but we have to put things in perspective. The Rockets played absolutely no defense on him all night and allowed him to do anything he wants on the court. That is simply inexcusable. But it’s November so W/e
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Post#210 » by Lamak » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:30 pm

He's in the conversation with how he's played against the other stars, elevates his game well in big moment
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Post#211 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:31 pm

jourdy wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:I was watching the game and the Rockets barely tried to trap and or double team Luka. Luka is a good player but I’m waiting until he shows out against tougher defenses during the playoffs. Right now he’s facing single coverage and taking advantage of it. Not that impressive.


That's because the teams who did that got ripped by Luka making accurate, simple passes. Dude has Lebronesque vision.


I’m pretty sure he can make the correct pass but you have to understand something, the other players have o make shots. Lukas teammates aren’t very good. I’m sorry they are not. I’ve seen most of them play through out their careers. Tim Hardaway shot comes and goes and so does Porzingis.

Not only that Luka rarely guards the best player on the court. In the playoffs teams will be smart to go after him on the defensive end. Right now this young man is just feasting on poor defenses. I give him credit for taking advantage of it but I’m not going to say he’s the next MJ, Lebron , Larry Bird etc.
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Post#212 » by Yuri36 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:31 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:It is shocking how good he is, not even for his age, but for any age. He's still not in optimal shape either, still lots of baby fat all over him and he makes it look easy.


Yeah.
For example, he never misses some of the lay ups he missed tonight with a fitter body (he would have managed the dunk on at least 2 of those).
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Post#213 » by Forbes » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:33 pm

Yuri36 wrote:
Forbes wrote:
Archx wrote:
Mavs vs LAC game has a potential to be something special as well. Beverly, Kawhi and PG vs Luka, damn.



I cant wait and I’m scared at the same time...because of Beverly and his annoyingness


Luka has showed in his rookie year that he could deal with Beverly or Kawhi (he putted 34 pts on the last if I remember well with a nasty 3 on him near the end of the game).
But yeah, I can't wait for this game between possibly two top 4/5 teams in the league


Oh trust me I know. But Beverly is a dirty and I just hate playing against him. Gonna be fun game to watch if there’s no load management.

I like these games, give of some slight indication on how we can do against these star studded teams
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#214 » by Johnny Firpo » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:33 pm

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picc wrote:I cant believe doncic is as good as the mavs fans said he was gonna be.

That never happens.


I'm not sure any mavs fans predicted 30-10-10 and the highest PER ever in his second season.


I predicted an All-Star level rookie season, but I "only" predicted 25/8/8 for his sophomore campaign, and not nearly this efficient production. I think I was predicting 58%TS. Now he is at, what, 64%TS? Ridiculous, even if he regresses somewhat, he'll likely be at least 27/9/9 on 59-60% TS.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#215 » by Yuri36 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:33 pm

jourdy wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:I was watching the game and the Rockets barely tried to trap and or double team Luka. Luka is a good player but I’m waiting until he shows out against tougher defenses during the playoffs. Right now he’s facing single coverage and taking advantage of it. Not that impressive.


That's because the teams who did that got ripped by Luka making accurate, simple passes. Dude has Lebronesque vision.


People underestimates how much his passing opens things up for him.
He would never score that much with just a good passing.
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Post#216 » by Dr Aki » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:33 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:Haha, Phoenix already had Devin Booker and Vlade didn't like his dad


There will be constant chatter for the rest of his career. A guy this good should never have 3 teams pass him over.


Not to mention he's got Larry Bird aka "the Great White Hope" level marketability.
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Post#217 » by jourdy » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:35 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
jourdy wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:I was watching the game and the Rockets barely tried to trap and or double team Luka. Luka is a good player but I’m waiting until he shows out against tougher defenses during the playoffs. Right now he’s facing single coverage and taking advantage of it. Not that impressive.


That's because the teams who did that got ripped by Luka making accurate, simple passes. Dude has Lebronesque vision.


I’m pretty sure he can make the correct pass but you have to understand something, the other players have o make shots. Lukas teammates aren’t very good. I’m sorry they are not. I’ve seen most of them play through out their careers. Tim Hardaway shot comes and goes and so does Porzingis.

Not only that Luka rarely guards the best player on the court. In the playoffs teams will be smart to go after him on the defensive end. Right now this young man is just feasting on poor defenses. I give him credit for taking advantage of it but I’m not going to say he’s the next MJ, Lebron , Larry Bird etc.


I can respect that.

He sliced up Houston's (weak) defense tonight, I'll give you that. But I have watched all Mavs games for the past 2 season and the simple passes I was referring to led to open dunks, layups, open threes - which are the worst shots you can give an opposing team IMO. I am sure Houston watched the tapes before the game.

I still have a feeling his numbers will go down because what he is doing right now through 16 games is unheard of, but I guess we just have to disagree that opponents don't game plan for him.
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Post#218 » by LesGrossman » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:31 am

First of all i am a big fan of Luka and as a european i always thought it was disrespectful how GM's, the league, the press and the fans viewed him. We knew what he could do at this age already. To me he is way beyond LeBrons abilities at this age - he has actual abundant basketball skills where leBron had raw athleticism and a green light of the league to run through people and take a few extra steps.

That being said, and in the absence of KD, it is my belief that Kawhi is absolutely the best player in this league. Think about it - he was the core of the Spurs, he owned prime Lebron in the finals, he carried a bunch of decent roleplayers to a title without a second, let alone a third all star next to him. The only reason he doesnt get the respect he deserves is that he is not craving for attention like other superstars. The results are undeniably there. Theres no reason to pretend the best player in the NBA has to score big numbers, triple doubles etc. every night. That is a narrative Westbrook initiated, and it carried over to Harden and Giannis, but its not the truth. Most of Kawhi's work is done on defense where it will not show up in the boxscore. But he has shown that he, without any help, makes a team a winner. Name one other guy currently playing who did the same? The last i can come up with is Dirk.
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Post#219 » by Pennebaker » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:42 am

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nurseryc wrote:29.9 ppg, 10.4rpg, 9.7 assists Per game and the Mavs being the surprise team sitting 5th in the Western conference with a relatively crappy roster outside of Doncic and Porzingis! This kid is extraterrestrial


Luka is an absolute mythic beast, no doubt, but there's more to being the best in the game than averages.


You mean like being top 5 in most major offensive categories and leading the Mavs to fifth place in the west on an at best mediocre roster so far with a struggling co-star? That kind of "more"?


The same reason why Magic was considered better than MJ in the 1980's.

The same reason why no one considers Harden the best player in the league.

The same reason why no one considered Westbrook the best player in the league even after averaging 30/10/10.

The same reason why no one considered Kawhi the best player in the league until after the postseason.

That's the "more".
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#220 » by TinmanZBoy » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:43 am

i am not sure whether he is... but I certainly hope he is, the kid represents almost everything right about BB....
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