Game 16: Detroit Pistons 5-10 @ Milwaukee Bucks 12-3 Sat. 8:30PM

[MotownMadness]

And he airballed it lol

[MotownMadness]

You make the kid try to show something in the last 30 secs and thats probably a expected result

[The Moose]

Sekou could've played the last 5 mins

[pistonsbball]

Sekou was alone at the top of the break on his first possession and Galloway took a contested mid range. Now had to force up a contested airball as his first NBA touch.

[pistonsbball]

Bone surely can't be much worse than Frazier.

[Han Solo]

I hate this team.

[sludgefoot]

Obviously the talent is lacking, but I don't think Casey is, or can, bring out their best. The " team" concept is non existant. Even at the end, you'd think they would try to get Sekou involved, but no, SvI and Galloway had to jack up their meaningless 3's. This is a leaderless team.

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[vege]

Milwaukee probably still can't believe we took Snell off their hands so easily.

[Perseus1966]

if you played other teams like you played against Bucks things would be much easier.

[hoophabit]

if you played other teams like you played against Bucks things would be much easier.

Just for the sake of clarity, what point are you making here? Could you expand on how the team plays differently when they play the Bucks?

[Uncle Mxy]

Felt just like the last few playoff games...

[JD43320]

Obviously the talent is lacking, but I don't think Casey is, or can, bring out their best. The " team" concept is non existant. Even at the end, you'd think they would try to get Sekou involved, but no, SvI and Galloway had to jack up their meaningless 3's. This is a leaderless team.

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Casey sucks no doubt but we likely are and probably should be stuck with him. While every.. last.. criticism of him is 100% accurate it doesn't and shouldn't matter. Every complaint we make about the guy was posted at least a billion times on the Raptor board for years. You don't hire Dwayne Casey and then fire him just for being Dwayne Casey. Unless someone comes up with concrete evidence that Dwayne Casey is the Zodiac killer or that Dwayne Casey raped and killed a girl in 1990 he's not going anywhere anytime soon and I've come to accept that.

Why have I accepted that? Well this franchise has a long a storied history of scapegoating coaches. A coach takes over a team with a 30 win roster in his first year and wins 30 games. The GM goes out and makes literally no improvements to the roster fires the coach the next season because he doesn't win 42 games with a 30 win roster. Why would the GM do that? Because he doesn't want to take responsibility for his inability to improve the talent. Dumars did that to 4 straight coaches and 5 straight if you consider he fired Flip for not winning a title while we were aging and hemorrhaging talent while all the other teams around us were improving. That kind of BS leads to not top tier coaching candidates wanting to even interview with the franchise. It's why we ended up with bums like Frank or Cheeks instead of someone like Budenholzer. Who wants their first shot at coaching a team with bar talent whose GM is going to crap all over to save his own ass if you don't pull off a quick miracle. You probably won't get another shot at a head coaching gig after that. You certainly aren't going to get a well established highly regarded head coach to come to your franchise either given all that mess.

No surprise that we didn't get "big name" coaches like SVG and Casey until after Dumars was canned. And as much as we all loathed SVG we needed to keep him on as long as we did to show that maybe we aren't the same coach scapegoating franchise we once were. Firing SVG was a little more acceptable to the coaching community because he was also responsible for how bad the roster was during the bulk of his tenure. Casey has zero roster control and the roster is still crap except now a bunch of key players are injured. Can't blame him for that. Again it's a matter of Casey being Casey. If you weren't ok with a guy whose game plans, rotations, game management and adjustments are all crap you shouldn't have hired a guy with a long established track record of being a guy whose game plans, rotations, game management and adjustments are all crap.

Fire Casey now and one or more of the following is true

A.You didn't vet the man and hired him because he was a "big name" in which case you're a superficial idiot.

B. You did vet him and thought he was actually good at the things he is crap at in which case you are a monumental fing idiot

C. You think the roster is actually worthy 50 wins and if you just had someone else you'd get there in which case you literally have not a single functioning brain cell left in your coke addled head.

D. You cynically think firing him will appease the fan base so you can keep trying to sell the narrative that the talent is on the rise even though it's not in which case the Detroit Pistons have scapegoated yet another coach.

None of those are a good look. Casey sucks no question about but any anger and ire really needs to be focused on ownership and management. Nobody is winning anything with this roster. In an alternate universe where we have a different much better coach but the same roster and injury issues we maybe have 2 more wins and the exact same outlook on the season.

[Billl]

You can't blame casey for the roster, but you can blame him for playing vets in a 20 point blowout. Even Kelser was calling for guys to foul with 5 minutes left so we could clear the bench.

[Snakebites]

Yeah, this was a blowout loss, I definitely agree that there's no reason the vets should have been in that late. Sekou should have gotten a lot more burn.

Casey is a little more stubborn than most coaches in terms of acknowledging that a game is lost, but that doesn't account for what we saw yesterday.

Just a rough game to sit through all around. At this point we just need to pray we stay this bad and don't have some meaningless win streak towards the end to put us where we usually end up.

[ComboGuardCity]

This was a scheduled loss because of a back to back. Even so, it was against a elite team. And even more so, it was competitive until the end of the 3rd, into the fourth. Expectations are too high. This isn’t a good team, but this could be a 4-6 seed when healthy. I’ll take that to start establishing a semblance of an identity. Not ready to give up the season yet.

[Perseus1966]

if you played other teams like you played against Bucks things would be much easier.

Just for the sake of clarity, what point are you making here? Could you expand on how the team plays differently when they play the Bucks?

Havent watched your games i saw the results and the last game ,you won some good teams and lost from bottom teams,your team was good against us ,more effort perhaps?

[DBC10]

Yeah, this was a blowout loss, I definitely agree that there's no reason the vets should have been in that late. Sekou should have gotten a lot more burn.

Casey is a little more stubborn than most coaches in terms of acknowledging that a game is lost, but that doesn't account for what we saw yesterday.

Just a rough game to sit through all around. At this point we just need to pray we stay this bad and don't have some meaningless win streak towards the end to put us where we usually end up.

Pistons and meaningless win streaks. An iconic duo.

Probably bigger killers to this franchise than even Josh Smith and Reggie's injuries/contract themselves.

[El Chivo]

Yeah, this was a blowout loss, I definitely agree that there's no reason the vets should have been in that late. Sekou should have gotten a lot more burn.

Casey is a little more stubborn than most coaches in terms of acknowledging that a game is lost, but that doesn't account for what we saw yesterday.

Just a rough game to sit through all around. At this point we just need to pray we stay this bad and don't have some meaningless win streak towards the end to put us where we usually end up.

Pistons and meaningless win streaks. An iconic duo.

Probably bigger killers to this franchise than even Josh Smith and Reggie's injuries/contract themselves.

the winning streak is coming... Charlotte, Orlando, the struggling Spurs. a big infusion of kool-aid for our delusional owner is coming.