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Post#981 » by doordoor123 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:32 am

King Ken wrote:This is the best PG class since 2009. Not saying Steph is in this class but how that class fed the NBA for PG's over the last 10 years, I expect this class to do the same. People are hyped about the top 3-4 guys (Ball, Cole, Edwards and Wiseman) but what will define this class is the PG's. Even the 2nd round PG's look strong. 2009 was the last class like this. 2018 looking like a strong PG class (Trae, SGA, Sexton, Graham) but that's like 4 PG's and one really special one. This class like 2009 got about 10. I would draft my PG (for the future or backup in this draft). The other positions just aren't that strong. SG is the 2nd strongest but it's weak outside the top tiers. SF is extremely weak. PF/C is a joke outside of the top guys. This draft is PG and SG heavy.

I would bet potential otherwise. I like Jaden McDaniels as a future 4 in the mold of Jon Issac. I like Nnaji. I like Deni Avdija and guys long term guys like Diakite and Queta but this class is a PG class. Once the positional players are gone in the top 8-10. Just pick PG's or trade out.


While I agree with you, this is a strong PG class, even in Sleepers, I suspect it’ll thin out by the end of the season. Plus some of these guys are likely more of a 2-guard in the NBA. PG is such a weird position nowadays though, there are a bunch of PGs now that aren’t traditional point guards, who can usually use their speed to penetrate and dish. Now guys pass and create plays from the top of the 3 point line or on fast breaks instead of penetrating and dishing. Guys like Coby White, Patrick Beverley, etc are guys you’d expect to be 2-guards, but they’re able to operate fine as a point guard. They just don’t have the role of penetration and dominating touches. PG seems to really be about fitting in a specific system nowadays, depending on what a team needs.

The NBA is positionless now, but it’s filled with roles instead.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#982 » by Illmatic12 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:08 am

Jaden McDaniels is a problem man. He’s like an offensive-minded Jonathan Isaac
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Post#983 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:38 am

Love every aspect of Nico's game.

I love it when Nico talks
I love it when Nico walks
I love it when Nico blinks
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I love it when Nico says, Ill see you in English

(Ill give anyone major props if they know this obscure early 2000s movie reference haha)
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Post#984 » by DirtyDez » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:16 am

fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
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Post#985 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:06 am

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Been saying it for over a year. The kid just plays the game the right way. Knows exactly when to move the ball or when to attack. His floater is ridiculously good for his age, the jumper is solid. He is also much quicker than you expect as well.
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Post#986 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:09 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:Jaden McDaniels is a problem man. He’s like an offensive-minded Jonathan Isaac

He has nowhere near Isaac's toolset physically though, JI was slight but it was obvious that he was going to get huge, with Jaden the obvious is the opposite

He reminds me of Brandon Ingram, but worse overall
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Post#987 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:11 pm

I think Nico is going to be really good but I don't see the ceiling play being great, just because he lacks first step and he is a bit upright, not super flexible to run PNR on ball and shake defenses kinda like Coby White in that sense physically (Coby is quicker and Nico has better feel but you get the idea)

He is a guy I'd be good with late lotto or late top10 kinda, would still take Maxey over him
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Post#988 » by karkinos » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:28 pm

florida upsets #18 xavier without significant scoring from lewis or mann

4:02 is what you're looking for
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Post#989 » by King Ken » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:01 pm

Fischella wrote:I think Nico is going to be really good but I don't see the ceiling play being great, just because he lacks first step and he is a bit upright, not super flexible to run PNR on ball and shake defenses kinda like Coby White in that sense physically (Coby is quicker and Nico has better feel but you get the idea)

He is a guy I'd be good with late lotto or late top10 kinda, would still take Maxey over him

If he falls out of the lottery, the Hawks need to jump on him
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Post#990 » by zimpy27 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:54 pm

King Ken wrote:
Fischella wrote:I think Nico is going to be really good but I don't see the ceiling play being great, just because he lacks first step and he is a bit upright, not super flexible to run PNR on ball and shake defenses kinda like Coby White in that sense physically (Coby is quicker and Nico has better feel but you get the idea)

He is a guy I'd be good with late lotto or late top10 kinda, would still take Maxey over him

If he falls out of the lottery, the Hawks need to jump on him


He could be a decent backup guard.
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Post#991 » by Illmatic12 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:24 pm

Fischella wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Jaden McDaniels is a problem man. He’s like an offensive-minded Jonathan Isaac

He has nowhere near Isaac's toolset physically though, JI was slight but it was obvious that he was going to get huge, with Jaden the obvious is the opposite

He reminds me of Brandon Ingram, but worse overall

Sure. Mainly talking about his fluidity at that size/height , very rare . He jumps off the screen at the college level
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Post#992 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:59 pm

karkinos wrote:florida upsets #18 xavier without significant scoring from lewis or mann

4:02 is what you're looking for

Defensively Lewis has been all over the place, but man what a rough start offensively for him. He's been Cam level bad on that end.
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Post#993 » by clyde21 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:17 pm

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karkinos wrote:florida upsets #18 xavier without significant scoring from lewis or mann

4:02 is what you're looking for

Defensively Lewis has been all over the place, but man what a rough start offensively for him. He's been Cam level bad on that end.


way way better than Cam
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Post#994 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:21 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
karkinos wrote:florida upsets #18 xavier without significant scoring from lewis or mann

4:02 is what you're looking for

Defensively Lewis has been all over the place, but man what a rough start offensively for him. He's been Cam level bad on that end.


way way better than Cam


Offensively so far? So far he's putting up a strong 8 points and 0.5 assists on a great 49 TS%. He's been beyond anemic on that end to start the season.
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Post#995 » by clyde21 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:22 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Defensively Lewis has been all over the place, but man what a rough start offensively for him. He's been Cam level bad on that end.


way way better than Cam


Offensively so far? So far he's putting up a strong 8 points and 0.5 assists on a great 49 TS%. He's been beyond anemic on that end to start the season.


yes, much better. he shoots like 6 fgs a game his %s are irrelevant at this point
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#996 » by clyde21 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:36 pm

i'd take Nico over LaMelo and Maxey easily
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#997 » by HeadtopChunes » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:09 pm

Whats up with Cole Anthony's 2p%?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#998 » by Justwar » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:23 pm

Does nick richards move into the consensus 2nd round if he keeps it up?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#999 » by The-Power » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:29 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:Jaden McDaniels is a problem man. He’s like an offensive-minded Jonathan Isaac

He looks like Isaac but he's missing what made Isaac special for the most part. He's nowhere near the defender Isaac was even in college and that is what made him such a great prospect in the first place. And offensive-minded in the sense that he's more aggressive, yeah. But I'm not sure he's much more skilled than Isaac was at that point. It's just that Isaac was more restrained, and he better understood how to play within himself. It's one reason why he started out relatively slowly in the NBA on offense but if you look at what he's actually capable of doing, it's quite promising. McDaniels is a bit of a reverse Isaac in this regard; he tries stuff out but isn't good at it, while Isaac is hesitant to try stuff until he gets comfortable.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1000 » by The-Power » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:29 pm

Justwar wrote:Does nick richards move into the consensus 2nd round if he keeps it up?

I have him as a 2nd for the time being, yeah.

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