2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1)

[Knicksfan1992]

I love Cole Anthony but thinking about the length of a Melo, Frank and RJ back court gets me so excited.

[eagle54]

Give him Wiseman please.

[KnickyKnicks]

People would be leary of Ball, because of his brother and father and form on J, but I would not let that stop me. No other player in this draft belongs in NYC more than Lamelo Ball. He is a bootleg version of Doncic in someways. He has a innate sense of the game that very few players will ever have. Lonzo is not touching Lamelo in talent at all. The father was always correct that Lamelo would be be the best of his sons. A 6'7 PG with that flair for the game the way he does would transform this team he also is not passive like his brother. He is scoring guard who has generational playing making abilities.Doncic is a worlds better shooter, but that "specialness" that makes up doncics total game I see alot in Lamelo.

Lamelo, Frank, RJ over any potential combo of players for next season. Lamelo can easily be hidden on defense with Frank and RJ surrounding him. His Playmaking ability alone with Mitch would be a sight to see.

Get rid of Shitzdale thoe. I dont trust him with a player like Lamelo.

[ADeP7]

Watching lamelo has me ready to trade Knox both mavs firsts Dennis and anything not named rj and ideally Mitch, just to get another top 5 pick lol

[Strick]

Lamelo is so intriguing. His positives are all borderline special (size, creativity, vision, passing) and he has glaring weaknesses like defense and inconsistent shooting.

Lamelo, RJ, and Mitch with Frank either playing with them to help hide Lamelo on defense a bit, or the backup PG is a fun team for sure. If Frank, RJ, and Lamelo could get to become solid shooters consistently it would be a really fun team to watch. RJ and Lamelo would have space to drive and Mitch could absolutely feast on lobs.

Still can't pass on Edwards at this point or Wiseman potentially, but damn that's the kind of game people have been waiting for from Lamelo.

[Fat]

We lucked into RJ barret at the 3rd pick and we had the worst record in the league so im not getting my hopes up for anything. wiseman, lamelo, edwards, cole are all good picks to me though.

Whats yall fall back option if none of those guys are available?

[DOT]

We lucked into RJ barret at the 3rd pick and we had the worst record in the league so im not getting my hopes up for anything. wiseman, lamelo, edwards, cole are all good picks to me though.

Whats yall fall back option if none of those guys are available?

RJ Hampton

Opposing teams would be too confused as to which RJ they're guarding, so we'd score every time

[Fat]

Watch on YouTube

i wouldnt be mad if we ended up with nico, not sure how high his ceiling is compared to others.

[rajajackal]

Watching lamelo has me ready to trade Knox both mavs firsts Dennis and anything not named rj and ideally Mitch, just to get another top 5 pick lol

this should be the idea, to trade acquired picks and players on rookie deals or short term contracts to double dip in the lottery in addition to wherever our own pick may fall

[jvsimonetti0514]

We lucked into RJ barret at the 3rd pick and we had the worst record in the league so im not getting my hopes up for anything. wiseman, lamelo, edwards, cole are all good picks to me though.

Whats yall fall back option if none of those guys are available?

I'm interested in the kid from Israel. I don't know a lot about him but he's got a playmaking wing vibe to his game.

Watch on YouTube

some highlights from the U20 this summer.

[jvsimonetti0514]

I don’t really trust LaMelo because of how his brother turned out. I guess he’s got more of a scorers mentality than Lonzo had but without his defense. Are you really going to take a kid with a similar skill set without the defense? Lonzo doesn’t look like he’ll ever live up to being drafted number 2 overall. The only way I draft LaMelo at 1 is if that jumper he showed off today becomes consistent throughout the rest of the year.

What exactly makes you say the bolded? Yeah Lonzo doesn't put up big numbers generally but he does a ton of stuff to help a good team win and he's become a better shooter this year. I'd honestly say the biggest thing holding him back is his health.

I just don't see Lonzo developing into a borderline all star player. Even with his improved shooting, I don't think he's a guy you want to dominate the ball for long stretches of games. He's a good playmaker and defender, I don't think he'll ever be good enough of a scorer to push him to that next level. It's a shame, cuz I was convinced he was the next coming of Kidd and he's not even Ricky Rubio.

[Knicksfan1992]

I don’t really trust LaMelo because of how his brother turned out. I guess he’s got more of a scorers mentality than Lonzo had but without his defense. Are you really going to take a kid with a similar skill set without the defense? Lonzo doesn’t look like he’ll ever live up to being drafted number 2 overall. The only way I draft LaMelo at 1 is if that jumper he showed off today becomes consistent throughout the rest of the year.

What exactly makes you say the bolded? Yeah Lonzo doesn't put up big numbers generally but he does a ton of stuff to help a good team win and he's become a better shooter this year. I'd honestly say the biggest thing holding him back is his health.

I just don't see Lonzo developing into a borderline all star player. Even with his improved shooting, I don't think he's a guy you want to dominate the ball for long stretches of games. He's a good playmaker and defender, I don't think he'll ever be good enough of a scorer to push him to that next level. It's a shame, cuz I was convinced he was the next coming of Kidd and he's not even Ricky Rubio.

You don't draft Lonzo to be the modern definition of an all-star... Jason Kidd never was an efficient scorer until his athleticism deteriorated and he changed his style of play but you lived with him not being a dominant scorer because he literally did everything else well that helped lead to winning. That's the same thing with Lonzo and what a lot of people on here love about Frank as well. (Frank does it too a much lesser extent than Lonzo potentially can because he's not as dynamic of a passer but for comparison purposes it works fine) If Lonzo gets his 3's up above 35% which he is trending towards, continues to be an all-defense level defender, continues to be an elite rebounder and elite decision maker on offense then he is absolutely worth the 2nd pick in the draft.

Biggest thing with Lonzo is health. He needs to stay healthy which he hasn't throughout his career.

[robillionaire]

What exactly makes you say the bolded? Yeah Lonzo doesn't put up big numbers generally but he does a ton of stuff to help a good team win and he's become a better shooter this year. I'd honestly say the biggest thing holding him back is his health.

I just don't see Lonzo developing into a borderline all star player. Even with his improved shooting, I don't think he's a guy you want to dominate the ball for long stretches of games. He's a good playmaker and defender, I don't think he'll ever be good enough of a scorer to push him to that next level. It's a shame, cuz I was convinced he was the next coming of Kidd and he's not even Ricky Rubio.

You don't draft Lonzo to be the modern definition of an all-star... Jason Kidd never was an efficient scorer until his athleticism deteriorated and he changed his style of play but you lived with him not being a dominant scorer because he literally did everything else well that helped lead to winning. That's the same thing with Lonzo and what a lot of people on here love about Frank as well. (Frank does it too a much lesser extent than Lonzo potentially can because he's not as dynamic of a passer but for comparison purposes it works fine) If Lonzo gets his 3's up above 35% which he is trending towards, continues to be an all-defense level defender, continues to be an elite rebounder and elite decision maker on offense then he is absolutely worth the 2nd pick in the draft.

Biggest thing with Lonzo is health. He needs to stay healthy which he hasn't throughout his career.

He brought it up from 15% to 24% I guess that’s “trending towards” 35% but seeing as how his shot is completely unorthodox I remain skeptical of that

[3toheadmelo]

We lucked into RJ barret at the 3rd pick and we had the worst record in the league so im not getting my hopes up for anything. wiseman, lamelo, edwards, cole are all good picks to me though.

Whats yall fall back option if none of those guys are available?

Nico all day

[Zenzibar]

People would be leary of Ball, because of his brother and father and form on J, but I would not let that stop me. No other player in this draft belongs in NYC more than Lamelo Ball. He is a bootleg version of Doncic in someways. He has a innate sense of the game that very few players will ever have. Lonzo is not touching Lamelo in talent at all. The father was always correct that Lamelo would be be the best of his sons. A 6'7 PG with that flair for the game the way he does would transform this team he also is not passive like his brother. He is scoring guard who has generational playing making abilities.Doncic is a worlds better shooter, but that "specialness" that makes up doncics total game I see alot in Lamelo.

Lamelo, Frank, RJ over any potential combo of players for next season. Lamelo can easily be hidden on defense with Frank and RJ surrounding him. His Playmaking ability alone with Mitch would be a sight to see.

Get rid of Shitzdale thoe. I dont trust him with a player like Lamelo.

Compelling Lamelo argument for sure. I'm sold for today.
What I do want is a player that can create
excitement.

[HerSports85]

We need 2 picks in the top 5. Anything is on the table but RJ, Mitch and Frank. Trade both Dallas FRPS and a pick swap next year with Trier and DSJR


LaMelo
Edwards
RJ
Mitch

[HerSports85]

Lamelo shot looks a little different. Quicker and not as low

[JBreezeNY]

Watching lamelo has me ready to trade Knox both mavs firsts Dennis and anything not named rj and ideally Mitch, just to get another top 5 pick lol

this should be the idea, to trade acquired picks and players on rookie deals or short term contracts to double dip in the lottery in addition to wherever our own pick may fall

I’ve been screaming we do that since last year’s draft, we need multiple talent positions. Collect assets then use said assets to get specific assets.

This draft would be perfect for it.

Trade Randle, Morris, Knox and just try to get a decent pick(s) out of it. We just need more options.

[knickstape4ever]

Not a fan of the Ball family whatsoever, and am leery of the idea of LaVar/the Balls' in NY, but not gonna lie, those LaMelo highlights are ridiculous

[TheGreenArrow]

We need 2 picks in the top 5. Anything is on the table but RJ, Mitch and Frank. Trade both Dallas FRPS and a pick swap next year with Trier and DSJR


LaMelo
Edwards
RJ
Mitch

Id legit cry if that were to come to fruition.