Constructing the Timberwolves rotation

[DaKid]

I am afraid that it won't work. In current NBA you need at least two capable ballhandlers/passers to create a consistent offensive flow.

There are many wings that are more than capable ballhandlers and passers. And with the change of offensive systems, there is less need for true pgs. That is why you see more and more teams running 2s, 3's and 4's as primary ball handlers successfully

Sure, if you have LeBron at PF/SF you can play your defense without real PG. However, the way our salaries distributed we have major part of salaries at С (KAT+Dieng) and PG (Wiggins+Teague), this leaves us only with players with bargain contracts at PF/SF/SG. From financial standpoint it explains why we play RoCo/Graham/Layman/Culver/Okogie group at wings.

I don't see any realistic trade scenario where we bring here an elite player at PF/SF/SG so I expect this trend to continue for 1-2 seasons more.

Teague can easily be moved at the deadline for a big piece as he's an $19m expiring contract. Dieng can easily be moved next year as an expiring so it is what it is. The young players that we have are also being groomed that way so they will improve.

[vagelis]

From What I have seen so far, I would like to see the following lineup
Wiggins, Okogie, Covington, Bell, Towns

Wiggins plays pg in offense and Okogie guards the opponent pg in defense.
With this lineup the defense and energy would be really good, and we have 2 go to guys for the offense(Wiggins, Towns).
I like Bell he is athletic and plays with energy like Covington and Okogie.

[minimus]

From What I have seen so far, I would like to see the following lineup
Wiggins, Okogie, Covington, Bell, Towns

Wiggins plays pg in offense and Okogie guards the opponent pg in defense.
With this lineup the defense and energy would be really good, and we have 2 go to guys for the offense(Wiggins, Towns).
I like Bell he is athletic and plays with energy like Covington and Okogie.

That's 3 vs 5 offense.

I would try KAT-KBD-RoCo-Culver-Wiggins. Quick subs Okogie-Layman-Graham-Vonleh.

Saying this, if we get DLo without losing RoCo and Okogie I can definitely see KAT-Bell-RoCo-DLo-Wiggins lineup playing well together.

[vagelis]

From What I have seen so far, I would like to see the following lineup
Wiggins, Okogie, Covington, Bell, Towns

Wiggins plays pg in offense and Okogie guards the opponent pg in defense.
With this lineup the defense and energy would be really good, and we have 2 go to guys for the offense(Wiggins, Towns).
I like Bell he is athletic and plays with energy like Covington and Okogie.

That's 3 vs 5 offense.

I would try KAT-KBD-RoCo-Culver-Wiggins. Quick subs Okogie-Layman-Graham-Vonleh.

Saying this, if we get DLo without losing RoCo and Okogie I can definitely see KAT-Bell-RoCo-DLo-Wiggins lineup playing well together.

Yes KBD seemed also good.
I dont know about Culver he is talented but maybe Okogie cotributes more to winning games right now

[minimus]

From What I have seen so far, I would like to see the following lineup
Wiggins, Okogie, Covington, Bell, Towns

Wiggins plays pg in offense and Okogie guards the opponent pg in defense.
With this lineup the defense and energy would be really good, and we have 2 go to guys for the offense(Wiggins, Towns).
I like Bell he is athletic and plays with energy like Covington and Okogie.

That's 3 vs 5 offense.

I would try KAT-KBD-RoCo-Culver-Wiggins. Quick subs Okogie-Layman-Graham-Vonleh.

Saying this, if we get DLo without losing RoCo and Okogie I can definitely see KAT-Bell-RoCo-DLo-Wiggins lineup playing well together.

Yes KBD seemed also good.
I dont know about Culver he is talented but maybe Okogie cotributes more to winning games right now

Yes, Okogie impacts game more. However, we are limited in ball handlers. In this area Culver is already better then Okogie. Josh still plays one speed.

[old school 34]

That's correct. Wiggins is perfect when he attacks downhill. What I am speaking about is feeding KAT in post and hitting open 3s after kickouts on perimeter. These are different dimensions of offense.

Sorry, I misunderstood. In that case though, we still don't need a dlo, we just need someone that can hit open 3's. I think Culver will get to that point if he is on the court with Wiggins and Towns

I hope for this, but usually it takes at least 2-3 years to develop a consistent jumpshot.

DLo works if his game matures & he can let it come to him some & not have to dominate the ball so much.

Bradley Beal could come here & be our PG with the way we play & he's a little more mature player from that standpoint & yet still in the same time frame as KAT & Wiggins....we would become contenders much faster going that route vs. DLo...DLo has obvious benefits with him & KAT's relationship but a longer term play. Comparing the two possible deals also could dictate who you keep....WAS being more interested in a Culver package & GSW, probably more Roco centric?

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[DaKid]

Sorry, I misunderstood. In that case though, we still don't need a dlo, we just need someone that can hit open 3's. I think Culver will get to that point if he is on the court with Wiggins and Towns

I hope for this, but usually it takes at least 2-3 years to develop a consistent jumpshot.

DLo works if his game matures & he can let it come to him some & not have to dominate the ball so much.

Bradley Beal could come here & be our PG with the way we play & he's a little more mature player from that standpoint & yet still in the same time frame as KAT & Wiggins....we would become contenders much faster going that route vs. DLo...DLo has obvious benefits with him & KAT's relationship but a longer term play. Comparing the two possible deals also could dictate who you keep....WAS being more interested in a Culver package & GSW, probably more Roco centric?

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I would still rather trade Teague's expiring for a 3 & d wing to play next to wiggins, towns and Roco and let everything else develop.

[shrink]

Our biggest problem right now is spreading the floor.

We have six players who are shooting over 30% from the three point line. Strangely, they are all 6’ 8” or taller. (Towns, KBD, Layman, Wiggins, RoCo, Dieng)

I know, small samples, but it should not be hard to find some smaller players who can make three pointers.

[minimus]

Our biggest problem right now is spreading the floor.

We have six players who are shooting over 30% from the three point line. Strangely, they are all 6’ 8” or taller. (Towns, KBD, Layman, Wiggins, RoCo, Dieng)

I know, small samples, but it should not be hard to find some smaller players who can make three pointers.

Do you mean Patty Mills, IT4 , Carsen Edwards type of players?

I assume that we can gamble only on this type of players, because shooting wings with size and defense are out of our price range. Also I believe that Nowell will be in rotation by the end of this season. His footwork and shot preparation are promising. He is so smooth when shooting. One guy I would like to get this summer is Svi Mykhailiuk.

[minimus]

I wish we can make a good trade now and develop our players, instead of relying on our luck during draft lottery and draft night. However, since there is no easy solution to our problems, I expect us to gamble in offseason, draft BPA: PF/SF/SG/PG and develop him. But if we win more games we will fall out of top16 picks, if we lose many - we might lose KAT trust. Not an easy choice.

[wesleyt95]

I wish we can make a good trade now and develop our players, instead of relying on our luck during draft lottery and draft night. However, since there is no easy solution to our problems, I expect us to gamble in offseason, draft BPA: PF/SF/SG/PG and develop him. But if we win more games we will fall out of top16 picks, if we lose many - we might lose KAT trust. Not an easy choice.

With Culver developing and Keita emerging I don't think there's any pressure on us relying on the draft, we just need to sign a shooter like Joe Harris... Nowell is developing too

[wesleyt95]

Maybe let Teague walk, attach our pick to Gorgui and sign Vanvleet & Harris... Let Culver gain confidence in his shot and running the offense
Culver-Vanvleet
Wiggins-Okogie/Nowell
Covington - Harris
Bates-Diop - Layman
Towns-Naz

[TheProdigy]

At this point, I would like to see the regular rotation look something like this:

Culver 22 / Teague 26
Wiggs 20 / Okogie 28
Roco 10 / Wiggs 14 / Layman 24
KBD 26 / Roco 22
KAT 34 / Dieng 14

Bell and Vonleh get mixed in based on matchups against larger front courts. Nowell is probably ready for playing time since he's been tearing up the g league. He probably won't get a chance until we have some injuries in the back court though.

[Crazy-Canuck]

According to the team and the beat reporters, wiggs is the pg for this team going forward while culver is the sg.

[Klomp]

For the record, I don't think I've ever really had a stance on the "Culver for franchise PG" debate. I've never felt strongly that I want him to be our future PG or that I believe he is our future PG. If he plays his way into that role, great. If not, I'm fine to let him continue off the ball.

I think at the end of the day, that position is unresolved going into next year. That much is obvious. In some ways, I'd compare it to Phoenix last year when they were just getting through the year with Booker or other placeholders there. The Suns went out and got a perfect fit with their star wing, and that needs to be our goal from now to the start of next season.

[DaKid]

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Wiggins is now our pg going forward with towns as our center. With roco in at pf or sf, we just need to fill out the other 2 wing spots. I like Culver, okogie, kbd and layman going forward and maybe Nowell and graham. Not sure that we have a backup at pg or a c that we want for the future on the roster

[Klomp]

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Wiggins is now our pg going forward with towns as our center. With roco in at pf or sf, we just need to fill out the other 2 wing spots. I like Culver, okogie, kbd and layman going forward and maybe Nowell and graham. Not sure that we have a backup at pg or a c that we want for the future on the roster

I think that this was simply a decision for this year and not necessarily going any further than that.

[DaKid]

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Wiggins is now our pg going forward with towns as our center. With roco in at pf or sf, we just need to fill out the other 2 wing spots. I like Culver, okogie, kbd and layman going forward and maybe Nowell and graham. Not sure that we have a backup at pg or a c that we want for the future on the roster

I think that this was simply a decision for this year and not necessarily going any further than that.

I think that it is based solely on how it works. But I think that it is very likely that we continue into the future with Wiggins at pg, towns at c and wings surrounding them. The size alone of that lineup leads to huge mismatches for any team that we face. Roco is a good 3 pt shooter. If we could fill those other 2 spots with solid defensive, decent 3 pt shooters, we would have a huge advantage.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Wiggins is now our pg going forward with towns as our center. With roco in at pf or sf, we just need to fill out the other 2 wing spots. I like Culver, okogie, kbd and layman going forward and maybe Nowell and graham. Not sure that we have a backup at pg or a c that we want for the future on the roster

I think that this was simply a decision for this year and not necessarily going any further than that.

I think that it is based solely on how it works. But I think that it is very likely that we continue into the future with Wiggins at pg, towns at c and wings surrounding them. The size alone of that lineup leads to huge mismatches for any team that we face. Roco is a good 3 pt shooter. If we could fill those other 2 spots with solid defensive, decent 3 pt shooters, we would have a huge advantage.

IMo, we are using Wiggs like how Denver uses Murray. Kat will share facilitating responsibilities just like Jokic does with denver.

Teams have gamed us. Focus on Kat, then wiggs while leaving everyone else open. So with Kat and wiggs involved in most of the action, defenses cant be so stationary and just wait while sagging off the 3 other players. Wiggs is actually a threat off a pnr to either pass, pop or cut. No other player on this roster gives us this action. This in turn gives kat some space to pop a 3, make the pass, or attack himself.

[Jedzz]

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Wiggins is now our pg going forward with towns as our center. With roco in at pf or sf, we just need to fill out the other 2 wing spots. I like Culver, okogie, kbd and layman going forward and maybe Nowell and graham. Not sure that we have a backup at pg or a c that we want for the future on the roster

I think that this was simply a decision for this year and not necessarily going any further than that.

I've already seen Wiggins playing more off ball since his return and was concerned. Then Teague was moved to off bench play and I thought ok we are getting back to it. But I still see the pushes for Culver happening. Let's just role with WIggins as the PG primary on offense, and if not, time to trade him at the first high point since his rookie year.