Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[Bill Lumbergh]

What do poeple think o Mo Wagner?

Could be a very cheap 4/5option as well.

I wanted to draft him when he came out. The Lakers got him before we did. I'm thinking we ended up with Timelord that year, so it all turned out well. I still find Wagner interesting though.

[Fencer reregistered]

What do poeple think o Mo Wagner?

Could be a very cheap 4/5option as well.

I wanted to draft him when he came up. The Lakers got him before we did. I'm thinking we ended up with Timelord, so it all turned out well. I still find Wagner interesting though.

Why would Washington trade him for a fair price?

[robdog_5]

I've been saying Wagner for months now. But to be honest hes overplaying his contract right now. No reason for Washington to trade him. They need cheap players to fit next to the huge contracts they have

[Bill Lumbergh]

What do poeple think o Mo Wagner?

Could be a very cheap 4/5option as well.

I wanted to draft him when he came up. The Lakers got him before we did. I'm thinking we ended up with Timelord, so it all turned out well. I still find Wagner interesting though.

Why would Washington trade him for a fair price?

No idea. I'm just answering the 'What do people think of him' question. Notice that he went off for 30 pts and 15 boards on Nov 15th. Just checked his stats, and he's already pretty productive with 12.3 pts, 5.3 boards in 18.8 mpg, and a PER of 20.58. You're right, no reason they'd give him up for anything we'd be willing or able to give them. I'd rather Wagner over Grant, probably, but that wouldn't get it done I suspect.

[Fencer reregistered]

I wanted to draft him when he came up. The Lakers got him before we did. I'm thinking we ended up with Timelord, so it all turned out well. I still find Wagner interesting though.

Why would Washington trade him for a fair price?

No idea. I'm just answering the 'What do people think of him' question. Notice that he went off for 30 pts and 15 boards on Nov 15th. Just checked his stats, and he's already pretty productive with 12.3 pts, 5.3 boards in 18.8 mpg, and a PER of 20.58. You're right, no reason they'd give him up for anything we'd be willing or able to give them. I'd rather Wagner over Grant, probably, but that wouldn't get it done I suspect.

Actually, the one reason to trade him would be a little arbitrage in which trading away a useful player lets you tank more completely. But that logic works better in a scenario that I also don't think will happen, namely Memphis trading us JJJ for a package including their pick and other assets.

[bucknersrevenge]

Honestly, I think we need to just change this to the "Waiver wire pickup Ideas Thread" because I see no real trades that help us as much as hurt us either immediately or down the road.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Why would Washington trade him for a fair price?

No idea. I'm just answering the 'What do people think of him' question. Notice that he went off for 30 pts and 15 boards on Nov 15th. Just checked his stats, and he's already pretty productive with 12.3 pts, 5.3 boards in 18.8 mpg, and a PER of 20.58. You're right, no reason they'd give him up for anything we'd be willing or able to give them. I'd rather Wagner over Grant, probably, but that wouldn't get it done I suspect.

Actually, the one reason to trade him would be a little arbitrage in which trading away a useful player lets you tank more completely. But that logic works better in a scenario that I also don't think will happen, namely Memphis trading us JJJ for a package including their pick and other assets.

I could actually see that happening, but the lottery odds have changed so much I don’t think tanking is worth it for Memphis, especially in such a guard-heavy draft that’s going to leave them replicating a two lead guard commitment. Also, Jackson still hasn’t started picking up boards at the rate he should be..

[Kalela]

What do poeple think o Mo Wagner?

Could be a very cheap 4/5option as well.

I like him and followed him at Michigan. I was surprised he was drafted as late as he was. With that said he is pretty poor defensively. In my opinion, the Celtics should be focusing on someone to slow down the likes of Embiid and Giannis. Theis, Kanter and Williams will not be enough in the playoffs to deal with those guys.

[Sactowndog]

Kanter, Poirier, Semi and some seconds for Dedmon?

Kings might well do that trade.

[Sactowndog]

I’m not sure either team would do it ( I’m not sure I’d do it) but an interesting trade that might make both teams better:

Celtics Trade: Jaylen Brown, Romeo Langford
Celtics Receive: Bogdan Bogdanovic, Richaun Holmes

Why for the Kings: Receive a top young wing that could run the floor with Fox and Bagley.

Why for Boston: Receive two players that excel in the half court, are high IQ to fit Brad’s system, and Bogdan gives them an elite 3 point shooter

[SmartWentCrazy]

I’m not sure either team would do it ( I’m not sure I’d do it) but an interesting trade that might make both teams better:

Celtics Trade: Jaylen Brown, Romeo Langford
Celtics Receive: Bogdan Bogdanovic, Richaun Holmes

Why for the Kings: Receive a top young wing that could run the floor with Fox and Bagley.

Why for Boston: Receive two players that excel in the half court, are high IQ to fit Brad’s system, and Bogdan gives them an elite 3 point shooter

I think Boston values Brown more than Bogdan and Langford more than Holmes, personally.

I think Boston sees Brown as part of the core going forward. They may consider dealing him for a star, but not someone who is similarly trying to establish himself like Bogdan. Langford could be available eventually, but I think they’d aim higher with their recent lottery pick than Holmes.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Kanter, Poirier, Semi and some seconds for Dedmon?

Kings might well do that trade.

They’d do it because Dedmon is off to a horrible start and they’re committed for three years, 40 million.

It might be feasible if we could package Kanter/Poirier for someone in the 9 million range, ideally an expiring contract, and flip that with a couple of seconds or the MIL 1st.

These three for one trades are a bad idea when we’re short on depth.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Kanter, Poirier, Semi and some seconds for Dedmon?

Kings might well do that trade.

They’d do it because Dedmon is off to a horrible start and they’re committed for three years, 40 million.

It might be feasible if we could package Kanter/Poirier for someone in the 9 million range, ideally an expiring contract, and flip that with a couple of seconds or the MIL 1st.

These three for one trades are a bad idea when we’re short on depth.

Dedmon is still a good center, he’s just a bad piece for a rebuilding team. Worse case scenario is that he’s solid filler salary for a bigger trade later on [Thompson?]

[Sactowndog]

I’m not sure either team would do it ( I’m not sure I’d do it) but an interesting trade that might make both teams better:

Celtics Trade: Jaylen Brown, Romeo Langford
Celtics Receive: Bogdan Bogdanovic, Richaun Holmes

Why for the Kings: Receive a top young wing that could run the floor with Fox and Bagley.

Why for Boston: Receive two players that excel in the half court, are high IQ to fit Brad’s system, and Bogdan gives them an elite 3 point shooter

I think Boston values Brown more than Bogdan and Langford more than Holmes, personally.

I think Boston sees Brown as part of the core going forward. They may consider dealing him for a star, but not someone who is similarly trying to establish himself like Bogdan. Langford could be available eventually, but I think they’d aim higher with their recent lottery pick than Holmes.

Yeah I’m sure they do... however I do think Bogdan provides shooting and play making the C’s lack. He is a perfect complementary piece with Smart and Kemba because he can play off the ball with Smart or on the ball if you want to run Kemba off ball.

[Sactowndog]

Kings might well do that trade.

They’d do it because Dedmon is off to a horrible start and they’re committed for three years, 40 million.

It might be feasible if we could package Kanter/Poirier for someone in the 9 million range, ideally an expiring contract, and flip that with a couple of seconds or the MIL 1st.

These three for one trades are a bad idea when we’re short on depth.

Dedmon is still a good center, he’s just a bad piece for a rebuilding team. Worse case scenario is that he’s solid filler salary for a bigger trade later on [Thompson?]

Kings aren’t really rebuilding at this point. They had a slow start after the India trip but have been 7-3 since. Had we had Bogdan for Brooklyn, I think we win that game.

The would do it because Holmes has been so good and to get Giles minutes.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I’m not sure either team would do it ( I’m not sure I’d do it) but an interesting trade that might make both teams better:

Celtics Trade: Jaylen Brown, Romeo Langford
Celtics Receive: Bogdan Bogdanovic, Richaun Holmes

Why for the Kings: Receive a top young wing that could run the floor with Fox and Bagley.

Why for Boston: Receive two players that excel in the half court, are high IQ to fit Brad’s system, and Bogdan gives them an elite 3 point shooter

I think Boston values Brown more than Bogdan and Langford more than Holmes, personally.

I think Boston sees Brown as part of the core going forward. They may consider dealing him for a star, but not someone who is similarly trying to establish himself like Bogdan. Langford could be available eventually, but I think they’d aim higher with their recent lottery pick than Holmes.

Yeah I’m sure they do... however I do think Bogdan provides shooting and play making the C’s lack. He is a perfect complementary piece with Smart and Kemba because he can play off the ball with Smart or on the ball if you want to run Kemba off ball.

Yah, but youre forgetting about Hayward, who does everything Bogdan can do at a better rate.

[jeremym480]

I’m not sure either team would do it ( I’m not sure I’d do it) but an interesting trade that might make both teams better:

Celtics Trade: Jaylen Brown, Romeo Langford
Celtics Receive: Bogdan Bogdanovic, Richaun Holmes

Why for the Kings: Receive a top young wing that could run the floor with Fox and Bagley.

Why for Boston: Receive two players that excel in the half court, are high IQ to fit Brad’s system, and Bogdan gives them an elite 3 point shooter

I think Boston values Brown more than Bogdan and Langford more than Holmes, personally.

I think Boston sees Brown as part of the core going forward. They may consider dealing him for a star, but not someone who is similarly trying to establish himself like Bogdan. Langford could be available eventually, but I think they’d aim higher with their recent lottery pick than Holmes.

Yeah I’m sure they do... however I do think Bogdan provides shooting and play making the C’s lack. He is a perfect complementary piece with Smart and Kemba because he can play off the ball with Smart or on the ball if you want to run Kemba off ball.

Yeah, but Jaylen really good defensively and he is essentially our PF. Is Bogdanovic going to be able to guard guys like Siakam, Horford, Porzingis, etc. and guard them well? or is that now going to have to fall on Tatum and Hayward?

https://stats.nba.com/player/1627759/matchups/?sort=PARTIAL_POSS&dir=1

[Sactowndog]

I think Boston values Brown more than Bogdan and Langford more than Holmes, personally.

I think Boston sees Brown as part of the core going forward. They may consider dealing him for a star, but not someone who is similarly trying to establish himself like Bogdan. Langford could be available eventually, but I think they’d aim higher with their recent lottery pick than Holmes.

Yeah I’m sure they do... however I do think Bogdan provides shooting and play making the C’s lack. He is a perfect complementary piece with Smart and Kemba because he can play off the ball with Smart or on the ball if you want to run Kemba off ball.

Yah, but youre forgetting about Hayward, who does everything Bogdan can do at a better rate.

Yeah similar playing style between them.

[100proof]

Poirier, Langford, Boston or bucks 2020 pick

for

Bamba

who says no?

[Darth Celtic]

I’m not sure either team would do it ( I’m not sure I’d do it) but an interesting trade that might make both teams better:

Celtics Trade: Jaylen Brown, Romeo Langford
Celtics Receive: Bogdan Bogdanovic, Richaun Holmes

Why for the Kings: Receive a top young wing that could run the floor with Fox and Bagley.

Why for Boston: Receive two players that excel in the half court, are high IQ to fit Brad’s system, and Bogdan gives them an elite 3 point shooter

I think Boston values Brown more than Bogdan and Langford more than Holmes, personally.

I think Boston sees Brown as part of the core going forward. They may consider dealing him for a star, but not someone who is similarly trying to establish himself like Bogdan. Langford could be available eventually, but I think they’d aim higher with their recent lottery pick than Holmes.

Well, the fact that your trade has 0 ways to ever happen in any form under the CBA makes me wonder the point of the discussion.