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2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#161 » by SfBull » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:02 pm

Skylar Mays of ,LSU
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#162 » by Jcool0 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:14 pm

SfBull wrote:Skylar Mays of ,LSU


Bulls just drafted a 6'4"+ combo guard & with him being 22 years old might be able to crack the back end of the lottery if he doesn't have a drop off.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#163 » by SfBull » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:35 pm

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SfBull wrote:Skylar Mays of ,LSU


Bulls just drafted a 6'4"+ combo guard & with him being 22 years old might be able to crack the back end of the lottery if he doesn't have a drop off.

This player is a second rounder at best but I like the idea of showing highlights for discussion and learning,not exactly excited with his play.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#164 » by Mirotek » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:07 pm

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Post#165 » by Hold That » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:36 pm

Melo isn’t falling out of the top 3. The game comes so easy for him due to his high basketball IQ. He's in the mold of Doncic and Trae Young I’d be very nervous passing on him if i was a GM.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#166 » by GimmeDat » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:10 am

Was watching the game. It was very impressive.

He was going up against a team with some fringe NBA guys - Scott Machado was the opposition PG, who is a good defender and had a 10 day with the Lakers last year. They're starting C is Cam Oliver, who you guys might remember from draft talk a few years back, I like him back then, and he's one of the NBL's best bigs. etc.

That said, Cairns have been up and down, and that was an extremely poor defensive effort from them all game. You'll notice several of those baskets the seas parted for LaMelo to drive in. Also out of his 4 three's, I think 2 or 3 were some ridiculous off balance/off dribble iso shots, which he can get hot with, but are not 'good shots' per se. Would feel better about him just hitting his spot up looks consistently.

He's a very crafty finisher when he has space to load up, and he has a high level floater with range. Great handles and change of pace - a number of very good hesi's in that game.

But, for all the talk about his shooting percentages, he's shooting 37.8% over his last 5 games. He's getting his lower body into his shots more and it's paying dividends.

His defense was also improved in that game. Went from terrible to just bad/below average, which I say very positively.

The passing vision is elite - Trae-esque.. and his assist/TO ratio is really strong - he rarely makes mistakes or tries to force things/do too much.. his passing, as fun as it is, is always functional and the excecution is always on point. The rebounding is also exceptional from the guard spot. All that stuff is going to translate.

His shot selection and general decision making is improving.. he's picking his spots better, learning when not to hoist up a shot, what reads to make, etc. . All involved with him stress that this is the first time he's played properly in an organized, pro setting like this, and so many concepts of play on both ends of the floor he's been completely oblivious too before this stint in the NBL - and you can see it on the court, he's coming along in leaps and bounds.

I think the biggest limitation right now is making things happen in the half-court at the NBA level. That means shooting, it also means diversifying the general scoring package and learning to use his size a bit more. When he can break out and play a free flowing, open running game, he's going to be great, but when the game settles down certain limitations may present themselves more. He's a bit Lonzo-esque in that regard.

But seriously - he just put up 32-11-13, with 2 TO's, in 40 minutes in a professional league. This isn't Euroleague obviously, but it's a very solid pro league, and that's an insane line.

I think he's a ball of clay prospect that needs the right development, but he's got a lot of unteachable gifts already. If he can get his defense to a passable level and tighten up the shooting (to what degree he can, I don't know), then the sky is the limit in terms of ceiling. Obviously if those 2 things remain big liabilities than that's always going to hold him back considerably as a guy you want to run your offense through at the next level.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#167 » by Repeat 3-peat » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:48 am

Scottie Lewis from Florida is a work in progress offensively but this man can play defense.

I have not been catching any Georgia games but Anthony Edwards has been struggling with his efficiency, mostly due to his 3pt shot not fallen. He had a rough game vs Dayton, 6 points on 2-9 FG.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#168 » by TheSuzerain » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:03 pm

This draft might suck at the top.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#169 » by wolffy » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:32 pm

Its not looking great so far
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#170 » by johnnyvann840 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:12 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:This draft might suck at the top.


And watch this be the year we get lucky and land a top 3 pick. We'll finish with the 4th worst record and wind up with #2 or #3. Would be so Bulls to wind up with a better pick in the year we were "supposed" to be a playoff team. This team doesn't need to employ any tanking strategy, we just suck naturally.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#173 » by kulaz3000 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:06 pm

Anthony Edwards or bust in this draft it seems like?
Why so serious?
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2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#174 » by StunnerKO » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:40 pm

Only player who should be drafted above Edwards potentially is Wiseman .


But it’s

Wiseman
Edwards
Anthony
Ball
Hampton
McDaniels
Stewart
Avdija
Maledon

with some soon to be risers


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#175 » by Hold That » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:53 am

kulaz3000 wrote:Anthony Edwards or bust in this draft it seems like?

The college season is barely underway it’s going to wind up one of the deeper drafts when it’s all said and done.
Edwards Melo and Wiseman can be stars and instant contributors. It’s not Edwards or bust. This is a guard heavy draft and most guards coming out of high school that are blue chippers usually don’t start to dominate until 2 months into the college season.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#176 » by d boy gentleman » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:41 am

I'm not that excited about this draft at all. The only intriguing prospect to me was Deni Avdija, but I don't see franchise player in him at all. The rest of this class doesn't impress me either
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#178 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:41 am

kulaz3000 wrote:Anthony Edwards or bust in this draft it seems like?



Is he going to be in the new Top Gun?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#179 » by VolumePoster » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:20 am

wolffy wrote:Its not looking great so far


Wiseman, Edwards, and Anthony all have all star level talent. I haven’t watched ball yet. But that’s four potentially high level prospects.
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