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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1181 » by TheScout31 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:12 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Cole Anthony looks like another Dennis Smith, that freethrow percentage is a no go from me and he doesn't have a great handle or size.


Better shooter, a FAR better defender (Cole is legit good on and off ball), better off ball player (smart relocator and can shoot off movement), better touch around paint, and he's a better passer believe it or not. The issues with him come from shot selection, turning modes from pass to shoot instead of blending and playing fluidly, and the damn UNC offense that gives him complete free reign because Roy wants to control the offensive eglass.
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Post#1182 » by HerSports85 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:38 pm

Edwards or Lamelo been saying it since day 1! No one else is close for me. Wiseman is intriguing but I want who I want dammit. Just one time can we get a franchise changing player.

Much rather have DLO + Edwards though. Please make it happen
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Post#1183 » by HerSports85 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:41 pm

Also I don’t trust this franchise making the decision if we get the #1 pick. We’ll probably go Wiseman or Cole Anthony SMH
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Post#1184 » by robillionaire » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:52 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Cole Anthony looks like another Dennis Smith, that freethrow percentage is a no go from me and he doesn't have a great handle or size.


Better shooter, a FAR better defender (Cole is legit good on and off ball), better off ball player (smart relocator and can shoot off movement), better touch around paint, and he's a better passer believe it or not. The issues with him come from shot selection, turning modes from pass to shoot instead of blending and playing fluidly, and the damn UNC offense that gives him complete free reign because Roy wants to control the offensive eglass.


Not concerned about the 66% ft shooting or is it just too small a sample size? For reference DSJ shot 71% from the line in college. His form looks good at least. Poor shooting from the line is a red flag for me so I’m keeping an eye on that
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Post#1186 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:59 pm

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wow against Michigan State too? What an incredible game from him. Def separates him from the rest of the pack for number 1 pick.
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Post#1187 » by robillionaire » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:00 am

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Yeah, not going to see anything much more impressive than that
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Post#1188 » by TheScout31 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:04 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Cole Anthony looks like another Dennis Smith, that freethrow percentage is a no go from me and he doesn't have a great handle or size.


Better shooter, a FAR better defender (Cole is legit good on and off ball), better off ball player (smart relocator and can shoot off movement), better touch around paint, and he's a better passer believe it or not. The issues with him come from shot selection, turning modes from pass to shoot instead of blending and playing fluidly, and the damn UNC offense that gives him complete free reign because Roy wants to control the offensive eglass.


Not concerned about the 66% ft shooting or is it just too small a sample size? For reference DSJ shot 71% from the line in college. His form looks good at least. Poor shooting from the line is a red flag for me so I’m keeping an eye on that


Not worried at all. 89% in EYBL on a big sample:

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Post#1189 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:08 am

HerSports85 wrote:Also I don’t trust this franchise making the decision if we get the #1 pick. We’ll probably go Wiseman or Cole Anthony SMH

If Wiseman plays like he did in the first two games when he comes back, I am not sure how you can be disappointed with that. That’s a two way monster.
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Post#1190 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:09 am

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HerSports85 wrote:Also I don’t trust this franchise making the decision if we get the #1 pick. We’ll probably go Wiseman or Cole Anthony SMH

If Wiseman plays like he did in the first two games when he comes back, I am not sure how you can be disappointed with that. That’s a two way monster.



He is, but it would be the end of the Mitch era, they are both centers.
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Post#1191 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:12 am

Listen just just give me one of Lamelo,Wiseman or Edward's.

Anybody else and we are on the road to mediocrity.

We need one of those 3.
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Post#1192 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:14 am

TheScout31 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Cole Anthony looks like another Dennis Smith, that freethrow percentage is a no go from me and he doesn't have a great handle or size.


Better shooter, a FAR better defender (Cole is legit good on and off ball), better off ball player (smart relocator and can shoot off movement), better touch around paint, and he's a better passer believe it or not. The issues with him come from shot selection, turning modes from pass to shoot instead of blending and playing fluidly, and the damn UNC offense that gives him complete free reign because Roy wants to control the offensive eglass.



I'm just not that wowed by his game, at his size you need blinding quickness (Fox / Morant) or a ridiculous handle like Curry / Kyrie, I don't see any of that from him. He looks solid, but solid doesn't go top 5.
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Post#1193 » by Worst_to_First » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:18 am

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HerSports85 wrote:Also I don’t trust this franchise making the decision if we get the #1 pick. We’ll probably go Wiseman or Cole Anthony SMH

If Wiseman plays like he did in the first two games when he comes back, I am not sure how you can be disappointed with that. That’s a two way monster.


Am glad to see the Ant-Man have a monster game but I don’t see him separating himself from Wiseman in anyway.

Ant-Man will have to improve his efficiency (still low shooting percentages) for this to happen.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1194 » by Worst_to_First » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:22 am

The suspension of John Collins could end up being a blessing in disguise for the Hawks if they end up with their hometown kid in the draft.

If Atlanta ends up with the second pick I won’t be surprised if the Ant-Man pulls a Lonzo Ball.
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Post#1195 » by HerSports85 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:55 am

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HerSports85 wrote:Also I don’t trust this franchise making the decision if we get the #1 pick. We’ll probably go Wiseman or Cole Anthony SMH

If Wiseman plays like he did in the first two games when he comes back, I am not sure how you can be disappointed with that. That’s a two way monster.


The only one I’ll probably be mad at is Cole Anthony. I’ll have to see more Wiseman. But I’d prefer to develop Mitch and fill our need in the backcourt
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1196 » by HEZI » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:08 am

Here's the scariest part about Edwards

Born: Aug 05, 2001 (age 18)

That shot making ability is just way too polished for an 18 year old
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Post#1197 » by HEZI » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:10 am

I'm not too worried about what GS does because they are in the West and we only play them twice a year but if the Hawks land Edwards

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Post#1198 » by TheScout31 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:13 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Cole Anthony looks like another Dennis Smith, that freethrow percentage is a no go from me and he doesn't have a great handle or size.


Better shooter, a FAR better defender (Cole is legit good on and off ball), better off ball player (smart relocator and can shoot off movement), better touch around paint, and he's a better passer believe it or not. The issues with him come from shot selection, turning modes from pass to shoot instead of blending and playing fluidly, and the damn UNC offense that gives him complete free reign because Roy wants to control the offensive eglass.



I'm just not that wowed by his game, at his size you need blinding quickness (Fox / Morant) or a ridiculous handle like Curry / Kyrie, I don't see any of that from him. He looks solid, but solid doesn't go top 5.


That’s fair. He’s a “stronger” athlete than Fox and Morant and more downhill. Better shooter than both, though not as slippery. I think once Roy reigns him in a bit and the percentages go back up, you’ll see what scouts have seen for a bit.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1199 » by TheScout31 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:16 am

HEZI wrote:Here's the scariest part about Edwards

Born: Aug 05, 2001 (age 18)

That shot making ability is just way too polished for an 18 year old


Kira Lewis - 18 year old sophomore (April 1991, if memory serves). Tweeted a bit about him last weekend - check him out. Not a top pick, but fun.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1200 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:16 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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HerSports85 wrote:Also I don’t trust this franchise making the decision if we get the #1 pick. We’ll probably go Wiseman or Cole Anthony SMH

If Wiseman plays like he did in the first two games when he comes back, I am not sure how you can be disappointed with that. That’s a two way monster.



He is, but it would be the end of the Mitch era, they are both centers.

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