Political Roundtable Part XXVII

[dckingsfan]

Yup let crack heads do however and whatever they please. More amazing is the continued fear of accountability on the left. You know what the easiest decision in life is? Not what to wear to work today, what to eat for breakfast, which email to reply to first, nope. The easiest decision, not to commit a crime or do drugs.

Agreed! And let's go back to jailing those evil beer drinkers. They should be punished - how did we miss out on that one?

[dobrojim]

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[daoneandonly]

Yup let crack heads do however and whatever they please. More amazing is the continued fear of accountability on the left. You know what the easiest decision in life is? Not what to wear to work today, what to eat for breakfast, which email to reply to first, nope. The easiest decision, not to commit a crime or do drugs.

Agreed! And let's go back to jailing those evil beer drinkers. They should be punished - how did we miss out on that one?

Yeah because beer is the same thing as cocaine, heroin, and meth. Not to mention the murderers, thieves, and rapists that are right where they belong in prison. But lets keep playing that record over

[daoneandonly]

Yup let crack heads do however and whatever they please. More amazing is the continued fear of accountability on the left. You know what the easiest decision in life is? Not what to wear to work today, what to eat for breakfast, which email to reply to first, nope. The easiest decision, not to commit a crime or do drugs.

Its amazing me to how judgemental you are and yet you seem to make excuses for Donald J Trump....

I dont have to judge them, a judge and/or jury of their peers did.

[daoneandonly]

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Walter Shaub is a hack, not even a blip on a radar for any type of response. You show me the accountability standards for the left when it comes to a fair tax system, criminal justice, abortion, etc, and I'll return the same

[Wizardspride]

Yup let crack heads do however and whatever they please. More amazing is the continued fear of accountability on the left. You know what the easiest decision in life is? Not what to wear to work today, what to eat for breakfast, which email to reply to first, nope. The easiest decision, not to commit a crime or do drugs.

Its amazing me to how judgemental you are and yet you seem to make excuses for Donald J Trump....

I dont have to judge them, a judge and/or jury of their peers did.

You don't HAVE to judge them....and yet you do.

Except when it comes to Trump.....

[daoneandonly]

Its amazing me to how judgemental you are and yet you seem to make excuses for Donald J Trump....

I dont have to judge them, a judge and/or jury of their peers did.

You don't HAVE to judge them....and yet you do.

Except when it comes to Trump.....

Except I criticize Trump just as much as a applaud him, in fact I do the former far more. I dont think he's Teflon the way the left do Barack Obama, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders, I call out the faults.

You and I are better off if murderers, rapists, those who assault, burglarize, steal etc are behind bars. People like dirt and dck can spin it any way they want, if those folks are in prison, they cant be on the street to commit said crimes again ergo we're safer. Just like their ridiculous theory that banning abortions would somehow increase them, its ludicrous and is completely without merit

[dckingsfan]

Yup let crack heads do however and whatever they please. More amazing is the continued fear of accountability on the left. You know what the easiest decision in life is? Not what to wear to work today, what to eat for breakfast, which email to reply to first, nope. The easiest decision, not to commit a crime or do drugs.

Agreed! And let's go back to jailing those evil beer drinkers. They should be punished - how did we miss out on that one?

Yeah because beer is the same thing as cocaine, heroin, and meth. Not to mention the murderers, thieves, and rapists that are right where they belong in prison. But lets keep playing that record over

Yep - let's ignore those drunk driving deaths... and let's ignore the difference between cocaine & heroin and marijuana. As long as we are going to be stupid on drugs - let's be really stupid - oh wait - that's where we are now

[daoneandonly]

Agreed! And let's go back to jailing those evil beer drinkers. They should be punished - how did we miss out on that one?

Yeah because beer is the same thing as cocaine, heroin, and meth. Not to mention the murderers, thieves, and rapists that are right where they belong in prison. But lets keep playing that record over

Yep - let's ignore those drunk driving deaths... and let's ignore the difference between cocaine & heroin and marijuana. As long as we are going to be stupid on drugs - let's be really stupid - oh wait - that's where we are now

So is marijuana the only line you are drawing? You seem to have a strong passion for weed and ppl who are impacted by it. What about people who do opiods they were never prescribed? What about people who are high on weed and have accidents, are they in a separate category as drunk drivers?

[dckingsfan]

Yeah because beer is the same thing as cocaine, heroin, and meth. Not to mention the murderers, thieves, and rapists that are right where they belong in prison. But lets keep playing that record over

Yep - let's ignore those drunk driving deaths... and let's ignore the difference between cocaine & heroin and marijuana. As long as we are going to be stupid on drugs - let's be really stupid - oh wait - that's where we are now

So is marijuana the only line you are drawing? You seem to have a strong passion for weed and ppl who are impacted by it. What about people who do opiods they were never prescribed? What about people who are high on weed and have accidents, are they in a separate category as drunk drivers?

I am advocating thinking this through - not just a knee jerk reaction. Jailing those around marijuana was incredibly stupid as was prohibition. Eventually and hopefully common sense will prevail.

And what about folks that are using opioids - do you want to jail that lot and add millions to the incarcerated camp?

Stupid on drugs just keeps going and going...

[pancakes3]

people who get into crashes are already punished.

[Wizardspride]

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[montestewart]

Yup let crack heads do however and whatever they please. More amazing is the continued fear of accountability on the left. You know what the easiest decision in life is? Not what to wear to work today, what to eat for breakfast, which email to reply to first, nope. The easiest decision, not to commit a crime or do drugs.

Agreed! And let's go back to jailing those evil beer drinkers. They should be punished - how did we miss out on that one?

If they want my beer they’ll have to pry it from my dead drunk hand

[pancakes3]

people who get into crashes are already punished.

just bc it's 4pm on thanksgiving eve, i'll elaborate.

extenuating circumstances that add on to the severity of a crime has little to do with punishment of the underlying crime and everything to do with (1) reflecting societal values and (2) shaping behavior.

we have heightened penalties for killing cops v killing other ppl bc we want to send a message that killing cops is much worse than civilians.

DWI laws are in effect because as a society, we've agreed that crashing while intoxicated is worse than crashing sober - we want to shape the behavior that deters people from drinking and driving. the underlying crime of hitting someone or something with a car is still equally punished.

drugs like opioids and meth have devastating health consequences, and also materially change people's behavior when they're high on the substance and the argument stands that they should be treated harsher than other substances that affect people's behavior, like say nicotine, caffeine, or alcohol. THC fits a lot more squarely with nicotine, caffeine, and alcohol than opioids and methamphetamines and yet the criminalization and enforcement of THC use is being enforced harshly and discriminatorily, and also disproportionately outweighs whatever societal benefits that discouraging marijuana use begets.

bottom line, it's a bad law. i'm not entirely sure who my audience is for this rant, or why i'm bothering to post about it yet again but i hope some lurker out there is gaining benefit from reading it.

[queridiculo]

Yup let crack heads do however and whatever they please. More amazing is the continued fear of accountability on the left. You know what the easiest decision in life is? Not what to wear to work today, what to eat for breakfast, which email to reply to first, nope. The easiest decision, not to commit a crime or do drugs.

Agreed! And let's go back to jailing those evil beer drinkers. They should be punished - how did we miss out on that one?

Yeah because beer is the same thing as cocaine, heroin, and meth. Not to mention the murderers, thieves, and rapists that are right where they belong in prison. But lets keep playing that record over

You **** moronic dumb piece of **** ****.

Yet again proving your ignorance on a subject and acting like the moral authority.

If you had even an ounce of integrity, or consistency you would be just as outraged over what’s at issue here.

The sentencing guidelines of crack vs. cocaine, two drugs with the same active ingredient albeit with a different clientele.

Do you EVER get tired of looking like a daft ****?

[bsilver]

IMO the state of the selection of the Democrat's nominee for president is depressing.
Biden
As just brought out - one of main architects of mass incarceration, drug wars, etc
Not too bright
Gutless - only one to vote against bin laden raid
78 years old
The only reason to support is that some think he's best chance to win (piss poor reason for selection)
Has no support from anyone younger than 90
Warren
I can't over her being a Republican until 1996
I'm for some sort of single payer plan, but her tax proposals and abolishing private med insurance will get her destroyed in election
Bernie
Heart attack and too old
I'd love an atheist Jew for president, but don't think that'll help. Would be nastiest election ever. Nazis coming out party.
Same problems as Warren. Even if ideas are good, can't get passed and make it hard to get elected.
Buttgigasomething
Don't get it. Why does being a good debater, and being young, gay and moderate make one a qualified presidential candidate?
Bloomberg
He'a actually brilliant, but being an aragant racist is disqualifying.
Gabbard
The only one I actually hate
Klobuchar
Would probably be a good candidate against Trump. Wish she wasn't an ****.
Booker
Don't know why he's even running. Being a black male after Obama doesn't help this time.
Steyer
Buy an election. I don't think so.
Castro and Yang
Actually like them. Maybe that's why they have no chance.
Patrick
Shows how weak the field is that he even considered it.
Harris
I like her, but doesn't seem to be able to run a good campaign.

I hope none of the top four get the nomination, but not confident of that or the alternatives.

[dckingsfan]

IMO the state of the selection of the Democrat's nominee for president is depressing.
Biden
As just brought out - one of main architects of mass incarceration, drug wars, etc
Not too bright
Gutless - only one to vote against bin laden raid
78 years old
The only reason to support is that some think he's best chance to win (piss poor reason for selection)
Has no support from anyone younger than 90
Warren
I can't over her being a Republican until 1996
I'm for some sort of single payer plan, but her tax proposals and abolishing private med insurance will get her destroyed in election
Bernie
Heart attack and too old
I'd love an atheist Jew for president, but don't think that'll help. Would be nastiest election ever. Nazis coming out party.
Same problems as Warren. Even if ideas are good, can't get passed and make it hard to get elected.
Buttgigasomething
Don't get it. Why does being a good debater, and being young, gay and moderate make one a qualified presidential candidate?
Bloomberg
He'a actually brilliant, but being an aragant racist is disqualifying.
Gabbard
The only one I actually hate
Klobuchar
Would probably be a good candidate against Trump. Wish she wasn't an ****.
Booker
Don't know why he's even running. Being a black male after Obama doesn't help this time.
Steyer
Buy an election. I don't think so.
Castro and Yang
Actually like them. Maybe that's why they have no chance.
Patrick
Shows how weak the field is that he even considered it.
Harris
I like her, but doesn't seem to be able to run a good campaign.

I hope none of the top four get the nomination, but not confident of that or the alternatives.

Ouch... I agree with many of your points - then I think of the current alternative - and they all seem shiny again

[Pointgod]

Republicans never stop looking like idiots. There is no bottom to how low they’ll go to protect the corrupt piece of **** in the Whitehouse. It’s no surprise considering people like daoneandonly encourage this behaviour. Zero consequences.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/27/new-revelations-just-wrecked-trumps-last-remaining-defenses/

The Times report indicates that Trump knew that a whistleblower complaint had been filed against him when he released his hold on hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine.
This actually undercuts two of Trump’s remaining defenses. First, it refutes the absurd notion that, because Trump ultimately released the aid, this somehow shows the plot to pressure Ukraine into announcing investigations to help his reelection was never corrupt. We now know Trump knew it had been exposed before the aid was released.
In short: They got caught.

Anyone with a brain knows that Trump only said no quid pro quo because he got caught. These **** Republicans in the Senate are going to let him get away with blatant corruption.

[Pointgod]

Yup let crack heads do however and whatever they please. More amazing is the continued fear of accountability on the left. You know what the easiest decision in life is? Not what to wear to work today, what to eat for breakfast, which email to reply to first, nope. The easiest decision, not to commit a crime or do drugs.

Actually yes you’re better off letting people do drugs and spending money to rehab addicts rather than throw them in jail. You end up spending less money too. I challenge you to provide evidence that on a whole imprisoning people for low level crimes presents better outcomes than fines and some form of community service. I’m sure other posters here can present clear evidence to the contrary.