Klomp wrote:Jedzz wrote:Klomp wrote:Same could've been said for Kevin Garnett in 1995. Might as well move on...
Completely different positional players with completely different output expectations. And yet Garnett was immediately a more confident offensive and defensive all around player doing so many different things on the court and for someone of his size, flashing brilliance early on for one reason or another. In his 8th game for example, 5 blocks, 5 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal, 3 for 4 on FT, 1 of 2 from 3 in his first 30 minute game. How many 19 year olds show this? it's not a monster stat total, it's just a good basketball players collection for one rookie game. In his first 35 games, he only had this one >30 minute game. He had a few players to supplant before he could really take over. It wasn't constant 25 pt games that allowed him to supplant the others in minutes by midseason. It was everything he could do already. From the first game, his worst errors might be a blocked shot called for goal tending.
In the first half of KG's rookie season, he averaged 20 mpg and scored 6 ppg on 41% shooting. Based on things you've said about Culver, it sounds like he needed a minutes reduction.
There you go, being yourself again. You just quoted me saying these are two very different player types with very different expectations of output and this is how you respond. I tried being kind offering Kobe instead, who had a sort of notoriously quiet beginning. But you just want to troll I guess.
This is trolling, Klomp. Please don't troll.
Your claim of similarity of Garnett's start to that of a struggling shooting guard/team-wants-to-create-as-a-point guard, who's shooting 28% from 3 in a system completely designed to create open looks for 3, which it does, is amazing.
You want to really force the comparison of a shooting guard to a Center and you want to compare what, shooting? Are you struggling to comprehend my posts or just an ai forum bot trolling for posts today again?
By 16 games into their rookie seasons:
Culver, 6 starts (free starts), 23.5 mins avg, 28% from 3FG, 35% on Free Throws. 36% FG
Garnett, 0 starts(no free starts), 19 mins avg, 50% from 3FG, 78% on Free Throws. 36% FG
Based on shooting ability and less time, Garnett looks like a better SG/Wing than Culver. Is that the result you were looking for?
How about assists?
Culver 2.1
Garnett 1.6
Which one is supposed to be the next great PG here again? Don't see a clear difference.
Blocks?
Culver 0 5
Garnett 1.1
Steals?
Culver 0 9
Garnett 0.9
Boards?
Culver 2 9
Garnett 3.6
TOV?
Culver 1.5
Garnett 1.3
Ballhandler? The rookie 6-11 PF/Center wins?
TS%
Culver 4.26
Garnett 5.22
Off Rating / Def Rating (Basketball Reference)
Culver 86/112
Garnett 106/108
Anything else you want to claim as similar to Culver's first 16 games of free rookie minutes today?