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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#481 » by Higgs Boston » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:39 am

Paschall with the 34 pick would have been the right choice in terms of talent and fit, there are a lot of PGs even without wannabe.
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Post#482 » by Dannyboy36 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:31 pm

I’m stating the obvious but I’d really like more time to see Kemba, brown, Hayward, Tatum, Theis , Smart and Robert Williams all healthy at the and time to be able to get more of a measure with how far off are we from the Lakers and Clippers. That’s what it’s all about. Ha omg a realistic chance to beat the best in a series. The answer to that for me is definitely a no.
But trading one of our 5 best guys really subtracts a big part of what we have. Our advantage is our quickness so I like the starting lineup with Theis and sometimes Williams. But center is the place I think needs the immediate upgrade if we’re talking actually contending THIS year. I think we could do Hayward for Drummond easy but still not be good enough. I’m all about adding talent but I wouldn’t mess with that core. I’d give it a year.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#483 » by Gomes3PC » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:12 pm

Half-Full wrote:I'm not one to propose trades, but someone brought up Kelly Olynyk's name... I would not speculate on what it would take to get a deal done, but I would like to see him back. He would fill a need.

Zero chance Ainge and Riley facilitate a trade midseason when both teams are in the hunt.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#484 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:15 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:Paschall with the 34 pick would have been the right choice in terms of talent and fit, there are a lot of PGs even without wannabe.

He played at where I went to college for one year, Fordham University. He was A10 ROY.

Then, knowing we suck and had a coaching change, he bolted for Villanova. Smart man.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#485 » by Half-Full » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:30 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:
Half-Full wrote:I'm not one to propose trades, but someone brought up Kelly Olynyk's name... I would not speculate on what it would take to get a deal done, but I would like to see him back. He would fill a need.

Zero chance Ainge and Riley facilitate a trade midseason when both teams are in the hunt.


Unlikely, I agree, but if each team feels that the piece(s) they are getting helps them in their hunt... Never say never.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#486 » by Gomes3PC » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:00 pm

Half-Full wrote:
Gomes3PC wrote:
Half-Full wrote:I'm not one to propose trades, but someone brought up Kelly Olynyk's name... I would not speculate on what it would take to get a deal done, but I would like to see him back. He would fill a need.

Zero chance Ainge and Riley facilitate a trade midseason when both teams are in the hunt.


Unlikely, I agree, but if each team feels that the piece(s) they are getting helps them in their hunt... Never say never.

Knowing the personalities involved, it is safe to say never.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#487 » by 100proof » Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:16 pm

Just playing around with trade machine

Chicago trades Markannen, Satoransky and 3.5 mill of salary (whatever choice of leftovers, gafford and hutchinson maybe?)
Orlando trades Aaron Gordon
Boston trades Langford, Poirier, Memphis pick

Chicago gets Aaron Gordon, Romeo Langford and the Memphis pick. Chicago makes the deal, runs all young guys for the season and cashes in on picks and youth. Gains capspace moving forward as well to potentially run at Anthony Davis with a core of Carter Jr, Romeo, White, Gordon and lotto picks

Orlando gets Satoranky and Hutchinson. Orlando cashes in on Gordon and adds some wings who can create and shoot from the outside. Satoransky should solve alot of Orlando's issues.

Bosston gets Markannen and Gafford. Boston adds a young bigman to groom with their dynamic core. Lauri can close games as an offensive center, but starts at PF. Move bolsters bostons bench by moving both Smart and Hayward there giving us the best depth in the league. Ideally Rob Williams continues to improve to become the eventual starting center.

Kemba/Wannamaker/Edwards
Brown/Smart/Green
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Lauri/Theis/GWilliams
Robert/Kanter/Tackoooooo
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Post#488 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:22 pm

What about adding a piece like Caris LeVert? I really think we could use a new 12th man as Edwards just isnt cutting it. Thinking LeVert in a 6-10 MPG role would really improve our deep bench.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#489 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:24 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:What about adding a piece like Caris LeVert? I really think we could use a new 12th man as Edwards just isnt cutting it. Thinking LeVert in a 6-10 MPG role would really improve our deep bench.


Oh damn, he has a PPP due to that terrible extension he signed. Oh well.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#490 » by 100proof » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:55 pm

detroit trades Wood, Galloway, Doumbouya and griffin and Get Westbrook, Clark and poirier and bucks 1st
Detroit goes the 2 man game with shooters around them
Westbrook
Kennard
Snell
Morris
Drummond

houston trades Westberook, Clark and get Griffin, Galloway, Semi
Houston adds a power forward who can better fit with Harden and a little depth on the wing
Harden
Gordon
House JR
Griffin
Capela

Boston trades, Semi, Poirier and bucks first
gets Doubouya and Woods
Boston gives woods a chance as a starting power forward consistently to see if his numbers can be maintained. If not still add a very good prospect to add to Langford with development in Doumbouoya (who has the potential to be a phenominal high motor defensive sf/pf hybrid)
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#491 » by Darth Celtic » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:58 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:What about adding a piece like Caris LeVert? I really think we could use a new 12th man as Edwards just isnt cutting it. Thinking LeVert in a 6-10 MPG role would really improve our deep bench.


Oh damn, he has a PPP due to that terrible extension he signed. Oh well.

and that whole PER of 11 makes you wonder....
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#492 » by big-shot-ROB » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:54 pm

100proof wrote:
Spoiler:
detroit trades Wood, Galloway, Doumbouya and griffin and Get Westbrook, Clark and poirier and bucks 1st
Detroit goes the 2 man game with shooters around them
Westbrook
Kennard
Snell
Morris
Drummond

houston trades Westberook, Clark and get Griffin, Galloway, Semi
Houston adds a power forward who can better fit with Harden and a little depth on the wing
Harden
Gordon
House JR
Griffin
Capela

Boston trades, Semi, Poirier and bucks first
gets Doubouya and Woods
Boston gives woods a chance as a starting power forward consistently to see if his numbers can be maintained. If not still add a very good prospect to add to Langford with development in Doumbouoya (who has the potential to be a phenominal high motor defensive sf/pf hybrid)


Both of your last ideas are some kind of 2K MyGM porn.
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Post#493 » by Ernest » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:13 pm

Midseason target no one is talking about: Crowder.

Ok so I can guess some replies to this. If he really hated it here and doesn't want to come, obviously don't get him. This is all assuming that he's cool with a return.

The Grizz suck. He's on smallish money and not signed past this year. I think upgrading at the 5 is still the main goal- but- the 3 bigs we have have been ok. If there is no clear move at the 5 why not Crowder? He's basically a better Semi.

The problem is that the money just doesn't work for a trade. But he's only making 7-8 mil. With half the season gone say he is owed 4. What can we pay him? Not sure but he's looking at losing 3 mil if he agrees to a total buyout. The griss will want to tank and maybe save some money. So maybe Crowder can get it to something like pay 2 million dollars for the chance to rejoin a playoff team in a contract year. I could see him agreeing because he just wants to win and I could also see it as a good business decision. Sure GMs already know how good he is, but the more fans that see him helps in contracts too. Crappy teams need to sell tickets.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#494 » by 100proof » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:43 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:
100proof wrote:
Spoiler:
detroit trades Wood, Galloway, Doumbouya and griffin and Get Westbrook, Clark and poirier and bucks 1st
Detroit goes the 2 man game with shooters around them
Westbrook
Kennard
Snell
Morris
Drummond

houston trades Westberook, Clark and get Griffin, Galloway, Semi
Houston adds a power forward who can better fit with Harden and a little depth on the wing
Harden
Gordon
House JR
Griffin
Capela

Boston trades, Semi, Poirier and bucks first
gets Doubouya and Woods
Boston gives woods a chance as a starting power forward consistently to see if his numbers can be maintained. If not still add a very good prospect to add to Langford with development in Doumbouoya (who has the potential to be a phenominal high motor defensive sf/pf hybrid)


Both of your last ideas are some kind of 2K MyGM porn.


Perhaps. But imo they make alot of sense.

Houston gets front court production and kerps ballnin hardens hands.

Detroit gets pg do all production and have a fantastic 1-2 punch that will work in the east.

Boston helps with salary and sweeteners for depth while snagging a long term project.
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Post#495 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:17 pm

Ernest wrote:Midseason target no one is talking about: Crowder.

Ok so I can guess some replies to this. If he really hated it here and doesn't want to come, obviously don't get him. This is all assuming that he's cool with a return.

The Grizz suck. He's on smallish money and not signed past this year. I think upgrading at the 5 is still the main goal- but- the 3 bigs we have have been ok. If there is no clear move at the 5 why not Crowder? He's basically a better Semi.

The problem is that the money just doesn't work for a trade. But he's only making 7-8 mil. With half the season gone say he is owed 4. What can we pay him? Not sure but he's looking at losing 3 mil if he agrees to a total buyout. The griss will want to tank and maybe save some money. So maybe Crowder can get it to something like pay 2 million dollars for the chance to rejoin a playoff team in a contract year. I could see him agreeing because he just wants to win and I could also see it as a good business decision. Sure GMs already know how good he is, but the more fans that see him helps in contracts too. Crappy teams need to sell tickets.


Do we have an exception in which a non-minimum salary would fit? I'm guessing that, because we dropped under the cap to trade for Kemba, we don't have an MLE, and the MLE alternative -- "Room Exception" -- was used on Kanter. (I further guess that Poirier was signed into the space left under the cap around the time of the Kemba deal.)
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#496 » by grindtime22 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:03 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:
Ernest wrote:Midseason target no one is talking about: Crowder.

Ok so I can guess some replies to this. If he really hated it here and doesn't want to come, obviously don't get him. This is all assuming that he's cool with a return.

The Grizz suck. He's on smallish money and not signed past this year. I think upgrading at the 5 is still the main goal- but- the 3 bigs we have have been ok. If there is no clear move at the 5 why not Crowder? He's basically a better Semi.

The problem is that the money just doesn't work for a trade. But he's only making 7-8 mil. With half the season gone say he is owed 4. What can we pay him? Not sure but he's looking at losing 3 mil if he agrees to a total buyout. The griss will want to tank and maybe save some money. So maybe Crowder can get it to something like pay 2 million dollars for the chance to rejoin a playoff team in a contract year. I could see him agreeing because he just wants to win and I could also see it as a good business decision. Sure GMs already know how good he is, but the more fans that see him helps in contracts too. Crappy teams need to sell tickets.


Do we have an exception in which a non-minimum salary would fit? I'm guessing that, because we dropped under the cap to trade for Kemba, we don't have an MLE, and the MLE alternative -- "Room Exception" -- was used on Kanter. (I further guess that Poirier was signed into the space left under the cap around the time of the Kemba deal.)


I don't think we have anything left

Memphis is going to flip Crowder regardless. They will get a 2nd rounder or 2.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#497 » by Ernest » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:41 am

Yeah, you're probably right. Sucks for us as I don't see how we can match salary. I'd give up a 2nd or 2 for him.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#498 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:47 am

100proof wrote:Just playing around with trade machine

Chicago trades Markannen, Satoransky and 3.5 mill of salary (whatever choice of leftovers, gafford and hutchinson maybe?)
Orlando trades Aaron Gordon
Boston trades Langford, Poirier, Memphis pick

Chicago gets Aaron Gordon, Romeo Langford and the Memphis pick. Chicago makes the deal, runs all young guys for the season and cashes in on picks and youth. Gains capspace moving forward as well to potentially run at Anthony Davis with a core of Carter Jr, Romeo, White, Gordon and lotto picks

Orlando gets Satoranky and Hutchinson. Orlando cashes in on Gordon and adds some wings who can create and shoot from the outside. Satoransky should solve alot of Orlando's issues.

Bosston gets Markannen and Gafford. Boston adds a young bigman to groom with their dynamic core. Lauri can close games as an offensive center, but starts at PF. Move bolsters bostons bench by moving both Smart and Hayward there giving us the best depth in the league. Ideally Rob Williams continues to improve to become the eventual starting center.

Kemba/Wannamaker/Edwards
Brown/Smart/Green
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Lauri/Theis/GWilliams
Robert/Kanter/Tackoooooo


If Orlando liked Satoransky that well, couldn't they have found a way to get him this offseason?

And why would Chicago roll over Markannen for pick/prospect assets?
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Post#499 » by 100proof » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:04 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:
100proof wrote:Just playing around with trade machine

Chicago trades Markannen, Satoransky and 3.5 mill of salary (whatever choice of leftovers, gafford and hutchinson maybe?)
Orlando trades Aaron Gordon
Boston trades Langford, Poirier, Memphis pick

Chicago gets Aaron Gordon, Romeo Langford and the Memphis pick. Chicago makes the deal, runs all young guys for the season and cashes in on picks and youth. Gains capspace moving forward as well to potentially run at Anthony Davis with a core of Carter Jr, Romeo, White, Gordon and lotto picks

Orlando gets Satoranky and Hutchinson. Orlando cashes in on Gordon and adds some wings who can create and shoot from the outside. Satoransky should solve alot of Orlando's issues.

Bosston gets Markannen and Gafford. Boston adds a young bigman to groom with their dynamic core. Lauri can close games as an offensive center, but starts at PF. Move bolsters bostons bench by moving both Smart and Hayward there giving us the best depth in the league. Ideally Rob Williams continues to improve to become the eventual starting center.

Kemba/Wannamaker/Edwards
Brown/Smart/Green
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Lauri/Theis/GWilliams
Robert/Kanter/Tackoooooo


If Orlando liked Satoransky that well, couldn't they have found a way to get him this offseason?

And why would Chicago roll over Markannen for pick/prospect assets?


Thats a really big haul for an underperformer
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#500 » by Kalela » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:04 pm

I realize he is on a lot of money but is it possible to get Jordan Clarkson without losing a key player? He would be a pretty good off the bench spark plug for the team.
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