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2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

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Who do you prefer of the following prospects?

Desmond Bane
12
41%
Saddiq Bey
1
3%
RJ Hampton
1
3%
Kira Lewis Jr
4
14%
Tyrese Maxey
2
7%
Aaron Nesmith
2
7%
Isaac Okoro
1
3%
Jalen Smith
2
7%
Tyrell Terry
2
7%
Patrick Williams
2
7%
 
Total votes: 29

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#21 » by ATTL » Sat Nov 9, 2019 12:04 am

I just want all top recruits to play in the gleague or overseas at this point. Let the kids that plan to stay multiple years get the scholarships.

I feel bad for Penny too, i was really looking forward to watching Memphis.
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Post#22 » by Frank Lee » Sat Nov 9, 2019 3:07 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Not gonna waste my time looking at prospects within the top 20. Who's the 21st best player? ;)


Touche.... one step further.... Im not going to waste my time speculating about a pick thats likely to be traded. Come febuary, if nothing happens, perhaps will then take interest.
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Post#23 » by Bogyo » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:01 am

I'd still say pick will likely be between 12 and 18, so worth keeping an eye on. However, I do agree that it has a fairly high chance of going out around trade deadline (with TJo) if we are in serious playoff contention. If not, it can still net us a very good piece, PJ, Herro, NAW and Thybulle have been drafted there just this past year, and I would take any of them for this years Suns - even instead of CJ so far...
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Post#24 » by Desertfox » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:39 pm

The only prospect y'all should be scouting is Cash Considerations, I hear the Suns are really high on him.
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Post#25 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:23 am

When it comes to the 2020 draft for me personally, I have us projected to pick in the 16-25 range. And due to that range ( outside of the lottery unfortunately or not?) These are the first round prospects that I prefer the most personally with respect to our most critical positional needs.

1- Amyr Sylla. A 6'10 power forward/ center with a 7'2 wingspan. He's a very good multipositional defender. And reminds alot of Pascal Siakim.



2- Onyeka Okongwu- ( USC) A 6'9 power forward center who is a very good rebounder and an unbelievably good rim protector, a powerful post player, and has a developing perimeter game too. Reminds of a bulky version of Bam Adebayo or a more athletic Hassan Whiteside.



3- Reggie Perry( Mississippi state) A 6'9 245lb. Power forward. Powerful, explosive, and a dominant force in the paint. He's good at defending the rim, has a solid post game, and a developing perimeter game too. He's a mix of Bam Adebayo and Derrick Favors.




There are also 3 second round prospects in the upcoming 2020 draft, To definitely keep your eyes on. They should quite likely be available around the early to mid second round, And could be real gems for certain teams. These 3 power forward prospects are:

1- Nate Ruevers ( Wisconsin)
A 6'11 240 lb. Power Forward/Center who is averaging around 15 points/ 8 rebounds/ and an incredible 4.7 blocks per game. He's a capable shooter with a fg% 45/ 2pt % 51/ 3pt% 33( but was as high as 38% in 2018). And a free throw % 80.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nate-reuvers-1.html.

But my primary interest is in his defensive potential and his shotblocking. 4.7 per game is something that could really help us, and overall, He seems like a high IQ player as well, He has good footwork and a decent post game too.Think Frank Kaminsky with actual shotblocking.



2-Matt Haarms ( Purdue)
A 7'3 250lb. Power forward/ Center. He's very mobile, very long, fluid with good footwork and brings a ton of energy. He's also a capable shooter, And has been averaging- 13 points/ 5 rebounds/ 1.3 assists and 3.7 blocks. Think a cross between Rik Smits ( both 7'3 from Netherlands) with similar playing styles and Kristaps Porzingus potential. His percentages are- Fg% 68/ 2pt% 76/ and his 3 pt% 40/ His free throws need work at 53% but overall he's a good outside shooter with great length and shotblocking that could help our defensive and size issues.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-haarms-1.html.



3- Theo John- ( Marquette).
A 6'9 240 lb. Power forward. He's not a great perimeter shooter, and doesn't have great percentages, But his value is mainly in his defensive abilities, strength and relentless motor and energy he brings. A value in the 2nd round for sure as he brings 4.5 blocks per game. He's basically Ben Wallace in terms of strength, toughness and defense.



Ideally, These prospects again could be had in the 2nd round I believe, and could be bargain picks to bolster our front court with more size and shotblocking. Having said that, I would still take

1- Isiah Stewart first .
2- Amar Sylla second.
3- Jalen McDaniels or Kerry Blackshear third when picking in the first round though.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#26 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:48 am

I apologize for posting multiple consecutive posts, And I realize that this topic is for the 2020 draft, But I came across these prospects for the 2021 nba draft, And these prospects that I'm going to list are absolutely incredible! And we all should really be keeping a very close eye on them!

1- Isiah Todd ( Michigan) A 6'10 power forward with a 7'0 wingspan and a 8'11 standing reach. This prospect is the absolute perfect power forward to play next to Ayton for us! He's got a silky smooth game, advanced ball handling, freakish athleticism and is quite honestly the closest thing to Kevin Durant in terms of length, Talent, explosiveness and overall skill.

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2017/08/isaiah-todd.html?m=1.



Can anyone tell me after comparing both Isiah Todd and Durant in game tape that you don't see all of the insane similarities: effortless athleticism, speed, elevation and silky smooth scoring! And his ball handling for a 6'10 kid is unreal too.

2- Ibou Dianko Badji- ( Barcelona) A 7'1 power forward/Center with a 7'8 wingspan who defensively?....we has been compared to Dikembe Mutombo. But honestly guys, His athleticism, explosiveness, unnatural speed and length for his size reminds so much of Anthony Davis that it's just silly!

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/ibou-dianko-badji.html?m=1.



He's just so fast, so agile and so very long. He could be Anthony Davis for us in time, Or at the very least, another Rudy Gobert next to Ayton.

3- Cofi Cockburn- ( Illinois) A 7'1 302 lb. Center from Jamaica with a 7'6 Wingspan. And is probably the closest we've seen to Shaquille O'neal in terms of sheer size, length and overwhelming power in the paint. He's simply a clone of young Shaq!



He's just so big, so powerful and unstoppable, Just like Shaq was. Except he has a perimeter game and a 3 point shot. He's very physically imposing and a brute in the post. Anyways, I just wanted to make sure I listed these prospects to give anyone who might have interest, ample time to review them accordingly. :wink:
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#27 » by jcsunsfan » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:00 pm

Wow. After looking at all those big kids, maybe we better just move Ayton to PF now.
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Post#28 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:26 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
I've always felt continuity should be a big factor in the makeup of a good team. Once you have a winning culture bringing in 2-3 new players max with one being a rookie would seem to be a better way to go. During SSOL there was so much turnover from year-to-year-to-year. Now if we go out and trade for a superstar then a big roster change will happen; otherwise let these guys learn to play together.


Yeah, if we have a really good team that somehow makes the playoffs, why make changes? Now if someone like Tyler Johnson gets a big offer (doubtful) than we could let him go since we have other guys to back up Booker and Jerome back to be backup PG, but no need to add much other than a 1st round draft pick...wouldn't be surprised if we take another guy with a few years of college experience who could contribute immediately.


I agree that continuity is a major reason for a team's overall success from year to year. The main concern for me is if guys are comfortable in the role they are in or if they want an increased bigger role. For example, I'm not certain Kaminsky came here on a two-year deal to play backup minutes when he is going to enter his prime soon. If he is okay with the limited minutes, then great, but I can see him looking for a bigger payday once his contract is up. We brought Kaminsky in so he can resurrect his career since he has been a disappointment so far. The guys Jones has brought in I feel have been carefully vetted as guys that may have been overlooked and want a chance at redemption through hard work and discipline.

I like the philosophy James Jones has brought in when it comes to drafting, grabbing 1st round picks with quality college backgrounds instead of these one and done guys that have been more or less bust than boom (at least for us anyway). It appears we are going the route that has made the Spurs so successful over the course of the last 20 years. Have our core guys and replace the role players.

The thing about this off-season is we are over the cap if we maintain our current roster. We'd have to renounce our bird rights to Tyler Johnson, Dario Saric, Aron Baynes, and decline our team option on Frank Kaminsky if we want to have any significant cap space. I'd prefer to keep everyone and use our MLE on a free agent that can help bolster our bench unit. Belinelli would be a savvy veteran sniper, but I feel he is too old. Crabbe or Hood could be an interesting option. Two way players would be harder to come by and would likely want a much larger role than we'd be able to give. I'd love to somehow get Ibaka and keep Saric but I don't think that is feasible.


I completely agree man. And as Bigfoot stated, with no real cap space afforded to us this year other than the Biannual exception and the midlevel exception ( If I'm remembering correctly) I was then looking at the best bargains for us at those allowances. Now I for my part would love to add both Montrezll Harrell and Joe Harris to our core , In an effort to strengthen our bench even further without really changing our already potent core and chemistry.

I really like Harrell's ability to further our team's intensity, energy and tenacity. As well as to help our frontcourt defensive issues with rim protection and Joe harris as another knockdown shooter that can help spell Booker and also help to carry the load on offense for us with his three point shooting. However, since the midlevel is around 10 million I think? And the Biannual is around 4, We really can't afford both. So I'd ( personally) look to offer Harrell the midlevel. And split the Biannual exception with 2 million going to Furkan Korkmaz. And the other 2 going to Noah Vonleh. Korkmaz also has great perimeter shooting percentages and has size at 6'7. And can help ball handling duties alongside Rubio or Jerome, giving us a lot of size in our backcourt too. Most importantly, he'd add yet another weapon to our 3point shooting barrage as he shot close to 40% last season. And should be a bargain at only two million. ( **1 year deal).

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/korkmfu01.html.
And Vonleh is a really good positional defender, can play either backup 4 or 5 is a very good rim protector, can hit the three at a good clip, and would also be a bargain for only 2 million (** 1 year deal).


Overall, even though this free agency pool.is really shallow and poor, We could still find some bargain vets to help bolster our depth even further and help cover some of our frontcourt issues. I wouldn't be disappointed if we were able to keep our core together and still add some complimentary veteran depth to our bench. ***( Resign Carter using veterans minimum).

Rubio/ Carter/ Jerome. ( okobo released).
Booker/ Bridges/ Korkmaz.
Oubre/ Cam Johnson/ Vonleh.
Harrell/ Saric/ Kaminsky.
Ayton/ Baynes/ ***Rookie.

****Draft Onyeka Okongwu- ( for power forward/center depth) He's got great size, length, and athleticism. Think a combination of Bam Adebayo and a more mobile and athletic Hassan Whiteside with 3 point shooting.

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/onyeka-okongwu.html?m=1
Have Baynes work with him on his toughness. A perfect project for Monty honestly.


. And but a 2nd round pick to add Tre Jones( best defender at point guard in the 2020 draft.

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/tre-jones.html?m=1. He'd be an absolute killer defensively for us alongside Bridges and Vonleh.

. So we essentially keep our core 5 together release the players that aren't playing much anyways, add veteran depth at key positions of weakness, and add rookies with specialized skills that additionally bolster our areas of positional weakness at a low bargain cost that will still allow us to be major players in the 2021 star studded free agency.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#29 » by darealjuice » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:26 am

Tyrese Haliburton is such an interesting prospect. 6'5" point guard with a 7' wingspan that can attack the basket, make plays for teammates, and have a big impact on defense. That shot is funky, but he's been hitting it reasonably well. He's had a really good last 2 games, excited to see how he plays in Big 12 conference play.
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Post#30 » by bwgood77 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:12 am

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Post#31 » by DirtyDez » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:04 am

bwgood77 wrote:
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Nico - 16 pts 11 ast
Zeke - 16 pts 11 rbs
Green - 24 pts 8 rbs 5 ast

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Post#32 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Dec 1, 2019 9:53 pm

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Is this kid for real? I always thought he was a bit of a joke but he's putting up some nice stats
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Post#33 » by bwgood77 » Sun Dec 1, 2019 10:17 pm

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Is this kid for real? I always thought he was a bit of a joke but he's putting up some nice stats


Why did you think he was a joke? He's for real. Best PG AZ has had in quite some time. He is shooting over 47% from 3, 18 ppg, 5.6 apg, a couple turnovers, over a steal a game.

He's really high IQ. They were talking about it how he knew the clock and wanted to put up the shot with a couple of seconds left in case he missed because he knew there would be a good chance of a offensive reb tip in with all the defensive attention on him.

A lot of good guards in this draft.
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Post#34 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Dec 1, 2019 10:25 pm

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Is this kid for real? I always thought he was a bit of a joke but he's putting up some nice stats


Why did you think he was a joke? He's for real. Best PG AZ has had in quite some time. He is shooting over 47% from 3, 18 ppg, 5.6 apg, a couple turnovers, over a steal a game.

He's really high IQ. They were talking about it how he knew the clock and wanted to put up the shot with a couple of seconds left in case he missed because he knew there would be a good chance of a offensive reb tip in with all the defensive attention on him.

A lot of good guards in this draft.

Never really looked into him. Just thought he looked funny and had a couple of flashy games.
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Post#35 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon Dec 2, 2019 12:57 am

I hate to find that I'm interested in this thread so far out. :(
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Post#36 » by PHXDraft0358 » Mon Dec 2, 2019 4:28 am

I’m liking Tyrese Haliburton G, Nico Mannion PG, Obi Toppin PF - around where Suns Draft Pick could fall. Though hopefully the Suns start winning more often!!

I like Paul Reed PF in 2nd Round but I’m thinking with all those Trades in Offseason we don’t have 2nd Rounder.
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Post#37 » by bwgood77 » Mon Dec 2, 2019 4:42 am

PHXDraft0358 wrote:I’m liking Tyrese Haliburton G, Nico Mannion PG, Obi Toppin PF - around where Suns Draft Pick could fall. Though hopefully the Suns start winning more often!!

I like Paul Reed PF in 2nd Round but I’m thinking with all those Trades in Offseason we don’t have 2nd Rounder.


I like Halliburton, and he could be there in late lottery or even mid to late teens. He gets a lot of assists, steals, shoots the 3 pretty well and plays solid defense. His only drawback is getting to the line.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/tyrese-haliburton

They currently have him mocked to go 15th.

Edit: Didn't know anything about Obi Toppin, but looking at his #s, from those he looks good. http://www.tankathon.com/players/obi-toppin

He's projected to go 19th.

Though these #s so far are probably not against very good competition, so worth monitoring going forward.
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Post#38 » by PHXDraft0358 » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:13 am

Obi Toppin struggled against Kansas but I watched him for 5 or 6 games w/ ESPN+ and/or the Maui* Tournament on Tv but with my DVD Recorder dead lol I’ve been having to watch more Games from ESPN+ app.

After the first two Games I watched of him I thought of posting on here about being a poor man Amare Stoudemire lol
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Post#39 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Dec 2, 2019 7:08 am

Tyrese Haliburton is who I want at our current range.
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Post#40 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Dec 2, 2019 4:21 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:Tyrese Haliburton is who I want at our current range.
He also had an incredible 4.5 - 1 assist to turnover ratio. And shot close to 43% on his threes whilst at Iowa state.

https://www.usab.com/basketball/players/mens/h/haliburton-tyrese.aspx . Having said that, He is rail thin at 6'5 and around 170 lbs+ - . He really needs to add some weight and muscle to be a factor at the next level. But he's definitely not a bad prospect overall. And I would consider him possibly in the late teens to early 20s' of the draft.

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