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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1041 » by No-Man » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:24 am

Edwards takes the lead to me, still not a super high end prospect with some of his limitations on-ball, but he may be Bradley Beal and that's more than good enough considering the field

I still think only Cole and LaMelo have comparable ceilings, or higher, but both are really flamable, I believe in Cole and have him 2nd, but he has been erratic

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Post#1042 » by nolang1 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:09 am

Fischella wrote:Tyrell Terry isn't much worse than Nico Mannion


I’ve never been too impressed by Mannion so I could see that, but the funny thing (especially coming from you) is that it begs the question of how much further it has to go until we consider point guards like centers in that it’s not too hard to find a decent one (especially given the number of bigger playmakers who can allow you to sneak another 3/D wing into your lineup) later in the draft and you should think twice before using a high pick on someone who isn’t an outlier in terms of skills or athleticism.
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Post#1043 » by HeadtopChunes » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:32 am

nolang1 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Tyrell Terry isn't much worse than Nico Mannion


I’ve never been too impressed by Mannion so I could see that, but the funny thing (especially coming from you) is that it begs the question of how much further it has to go until we consider point guards like centers in that it’s not too hard to find a decent one (especially given the number of bigger playmakers who can allow you to sneak another 3/D wing into your lineup) later in the draft and you should think twice before using a high pick on someone who isn’t an outlier in terms of skills or athleticism.


i think we are already there with PGs.

If you don't think they can be a lead initiator its pretty easy to find secondary or backup level point guards either undrafted or in free agency for cheap.

its why projected backups like Brunson and Devonte Graham fall every year
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Post#1044 » by clyde21 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:42 am

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Fischella wrote:Tyrell Terry isn't much worse than Nico Mannion


I’ve never been too impressed by Mannion so I could see that, but the funny thing (especially coming from you) is that it begs the question of how much further it has to go until we consider point guards like centers in that it’s not too hard to find a decent one (especially given the number of bigger playmakers who can allow you to sneak another 3/D wing into your lineup) later in the draft and you should think twice before using a high pick on someone who isn’t an outlier in terms of skills or athleticism.


yup, on-ball PGs are not really that valuable relatively speaking, all things equal i'd take combo guards, wings, and combo forwards/bigs above on-ball PGs and traditional centers every day

but I think Nico has some value off-ball, it's LaMelo that I think falls in this category for me...
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Post#1045 » by karkinos » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:25 pm

with all these upsets i feel pretty comfortable that march madness will be won by a non t4 seeded team
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Post#1046 » by doordoor123 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:01 pm

I’m watching Kansas vs Dayton right now and this game makes me upset for college basketball/nba prospects. No one in this game is handling the ball. It’s only pass, cut, layup and shoot. None of these guys have good NBA player potential. Toppin is obviously good, but not in the way that will make him a super effective NBA player. He’s a roleplaying starter at best. We need more guys who can handle, post up and shoot off the dribble/make contested shots.
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Post#1047 » by clyde21 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:46 pm

where is everyone at with Cole right now? ineffiency and TOs have been a huge issue so far.
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Post#1048 » by nolang1 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:43 pm

clyde21 wrote:where is everyone at with Cole right now? ineffiency and TOs have been a huge issue so far.


I’m not watching today, but I think he’ll look better by RAPM type of numbers than box score stats; every time I've seen him, his teammates have left quite a few assists on the board. The surrounding talent is much worse than what Coby White had last year, but yeah between the age and shooting I wouldn't be comfortable with taking him #1.

N'Faly Dante was ruled eligible, so he might be playing today.
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Post#1049 » by Justwar » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:02 pm

nolang1 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:where is everyone at with Cole right now? ineffiency and TOs have been a huge issue so far.


I’m not watching today, but I think he’ll look better by RAPM type of numbers than box score stats; every time I've seen him, his teammates have left quite a few assists on the board. The surrounding talent is much worse than what Coby White had last year, but yeah between the age and shooting I wouldn't be comfortable with taking him #1.

N'Faly Dante was ruled eligible, so he might be playing today.


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Post#1050 » by LSandersBong » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:40 pm

Anyone a fan of Jahmi'us Ramsey from Texas Tech? I think he goes between mid to late lottery to be honest,good shooter 52% from the field 48% from 3 with good volume, putting up 19 ppg. Athletic plus solid to good on defense and averages nearly 7 rebounds.

Only shooting 68% for free throws and not amazing handles or passing but I think he'll be a good scorer at the next level.
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Post#1051 » by clyde21 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:46 am

Josh Green is good, I think for sure lotto guy
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Post#1052 » by DirtyDez » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:14 am

clyde21 wrote:Josh Green is good, I think for sure lotto guy


You’re probably talking about his shooting but late in that game he made some huge plays. Hustle off rebound and kick for a big 3 and a find under to Zeke to tie it. Nico with the game winner.

Pepperdine was insane from deep.
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Post#1053 » by MemphisX » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:14 am

After the last two drafts, especially at the top, this draft looks like butt cheeks. Gotta readjust my thinking about what a top pick is gonna look like.
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Post#1054 » by clyde21 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:17 am

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clyde21 wrote:Josh Green is good, I think for sure lotto guy


You’re probably talking about his shooting but late in that game he made some huge plays. Hustle off rebound and kick for a big 3 and a find under to Zeke to tie it. Nico with the game winner.

Pepperdine was insane from deep.


no just shooting, moves well off ball, smooth movements, tries on defense, decent athlete/length, has some shot making ability off the dribble...not sure about the ceiling but he has a pretty decent all around game

i think Nico is the best prospect on that team but Green is a lotto guy too...Nnaji to is me of a late first rounder
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Post#1055 » by DirtyDez » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:28 am

clyde21 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Josh Green is good, I think for sure lotto guy


You’re probably talking about his shooting but late in that game he made some huge plays. Hustle off rebound and kick for a big 3 and a find under to Zeke to tie it. Nico with the game winner.

Pepperdine was insane from deep.


no just shooting, moves well off ball, smooth movements, tries on defense, decent athlete/length, has some shot making ability off the dribble...not sure about the ceiling but he has a pretty decent all around game

i think Nico is the best prospect on that team but Green is a lotto guy too...Nnaji to is me of a late first rounder


Have a feeling we’re gonna be changing our opinion on AZ’s best prospect several times during the season. Mannion is the best but still struggles to get in the lane. Zeke has great talent and the perfect frame to built with. He makes a lot of freshman mistakes that should get cleaned up.

Josh just looks like a pro. He’s smooth and plays both ways. If he keeps hitting that shot he’s too-10.
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Post#1056 » by The-Power » Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:37 pm

clyde21 wrote:Josh Green is good, I think for sure lotto guy

Agreed. I think with his profile it's easy to project him as a decent NBA player at least. He fits seamlessly into virtually any line-up I can imagine.

By the way, extremely encouraging games from Haliburton. He has been much more aggressive trying to score and tried to score some from the midrange area – and he did that against solid competition. He'll never be a go-to scorer but if teams have to respect his scoring, including in the half court, it's hard not to get excited about him. His playmaking is just super valuable, he would be an ideal PG next to a high-volume scoring star.
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Post#1057 » by Nazrmohamed » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm

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nolang1 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Tyrell Terry isn't much worse than Nico Mannion


I’ve never been too impressed by Mannion so I could see that, but the funny thing (especially coming from you) is that it begs the question of how much further it has to go until we consider point guards like centers in that it’s not too hard to find a decent one (especially given the number of bigger playmakers who can allow you to sneak another 3/D wing into your lineup) later in the draft and you should think twice before using a high pick on someone who isn’t an outlier in terms of skills or athleticism.


yup, on-ball PGs are not really that valuable relatively speaking, all things equal i'd take combo guards, wings, and combo forwards/bigs above on-ball PGs and traditional centers every day

but I think Nico has some value off-ball, it's LaMelo that I think falls in this category for me...


I think traditional CS still hold a ton of value so long as it's not them being featured. The position of least importance or skillset is go to traditional PF. In fact it feels like they are outlawed. At least with a traditional C who rebounds and can defend you can run a 4out/1in system that seems so prevalent these days
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Post#1058 » by MotownMadness » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:18 pm

Man i really like Cole Anthony, just the two way motor on this kid.

Anyone just see that block?
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Post#1059 » by Village Idiot » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:31 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Man i really like Cole Anthony, just the two way motor on this kid.

Anyone just see that block?
That was nasty. Payton Pritchard was the best PG in the game though. Anthony has the tools but he is more of scorer than a distributor. I can see Pritchard carving out a long NBA career in a Steve Blake type of journeyman back-up PG that every coach would love to have.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1060 » by GimmeDat » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:15 pm

Yeah, I've been happy with Green. I think the thing that's stood out to me in the games is that he has really good dimensions for an SG, he's 6'6 with a 6'10 wingspan, decent frame. Like Edwards, I think you can comfortably slide him up to the 3.

Green's been excellent on defense, the jumper's working so far, and he's got a good feel - 3.8 assists to 1.3 to's per 40. He makes some good reads for a guy that's not a big time initiator type.

Just lacks that shot versatility/ball handler/initiator stuff that you want to see for a high upside 2 guard prospect - but has high level role player potential I'd say.

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