The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

[sodmoraes]

Unique as in the only player in NBA history to be literally scared to shoot the ball.

Markelle Fultz was afraid to shoot 3s his first two years. Now he is letting it fly.. and shooting 19%. At least he is willing to shoot them. He has more confidence than Ben Simmons.

I would 100% rather have Kelle right now.

Me too...Sadly, even if fultz never recovers his 3 pt ball,he's a better pg than bum simmons.. i saw some magic games and he's really good driving to the basket and finding the open man.and he's hiting the 15 feet jumper at a decent clip. Simmons isnt a pg,he Just brings the ball then goes to the dunker spot..

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[Bum Adebayo]

Man I'm not gonna lie, seeing more fans calling him Bum Simmons is too much, like I can understand me doing it as a proud Simmons hater, but I'm legit starting to feel bad for him lol

[XDevilBoiX]

Man I'm not gonna lie, seeing more fans calling him Bum Simmons is too much, like I can understand me doing it as a proud Simmons hater, but I'm legit starting to feel bad for him lol

Call him the magician lol

[Kobblehead]

Man I'm not gonna lie, seeing more fans calling him Bum Simmons is too much, like I can understand me doing it as a proud Simmons hater, but I'm legit starting to feel bad for him lol

Call him the magician lol

His greatest magic trick is making $170m disappear from our salary sheets.

[VDT]

Horford is ok i guess, but he is so superfluous and underutilized its not even funny.

Hopefully he can help us with certain matchups in the postseason.

[76ciology]

If he doesnt force things on offense. How can he turn the ball over that much?

The way I see it, he can focus on 3 things. Focus on defense, focus on not turning the ball over and focus on being a way more aggressive scorer on the break.

[SexDrugsPnR]

Horford is ok i guess, but he is so superfluous and underutilized its not even funny.

Hopefully he can help us with certain matchups in the postseason.

not sure if i understand how horford is underutilised...
his usage rate is right around his career average, his minutes per game are as well. he is averaging a career high in 3pt attempts per game. his points and assists per game are above his career average.
of course he's not the player he was in his age 26 season in atlanta, but i think he is exactly who we thought he'd be.

[youngcrev]

Simmons CANT play the 4. I need this entire board to understand this. Simmons as is can not be on the floor AT ALL if we want a consistently effective offense. It doesnt matter what position he plays. He is not a threat to do anything therefor he makes the other 4 guys jobs harder regardless of what he is or where he plays.

#smallballC

The key to salvaging Ben Simmons in the halfcourt is playing him at the 5 with no other bigs on the floor.

On the ball:
With 5 guys outside the arc, he'd have wide open driving lanes.

Off the ball:
He'd be utilized as a screen and roller catching lobs from ball handlers.

Wouldn't you still be able to accomplish this with a stretch big? My only worry would be how he'd hold up in the paint against some of the more physical 5s, potentially turning a plus defender into a minus. Rebounding and rim protection could also be potential issues.

[76ciology]

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They should just try to perfect this.

[youngcrev]

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They should just try to perfect this.

They tried it the next time down and it failed because the Knicks didn't switch.

Edit: Rewatched the failed version of it. I misremembered what they did because that's what Alaa said they did. They actually did still switch but brought Morris down to trap.

[DaSixers]

if they dont switch shouldnt it in theory be an easy layup for ben.. (well it is ben we are talking about but still)

[76ciology]

if they dont switch shouldnt it in theory be an easy layup for ben.. (well it is ben we are talking about but still)

Yes. That’s what ive been saying. If they dont switch, ben should get a step ahead advantage for the layup. But then, it’s Ben...

[youngcrev]

if they dont switch shouldnt it in theory be an easy layup for ben.. (well it is ben we are talking about but still)

On that particular instance, yeah, because RJ isn't paying attention and gets completely eaten up by that screen. If he slides under and some help comes from the side I think you could defend pretty well if you were prepared for it. Maybe this becomes something like the JJ screens for Joel that catch teams off guard once a game.

[DaSixers]

if they dont switch shouldnt it in theory be an easy layup for ben.. (well it is ben we are talking about but still)

On that particular instance, yeah, because RJ isn't paying attention and gets completely eaten up by that screen. If he slides under and some help comes from the side I think you could defend pretty well if you were prepared for it. Maybe this becomes something like the JJ screens for Joel that catch teams off guard once a game.

if a shooter is in the corner as they should be(asking alot from brett) then that help defender leaves an open 3

[youngcrev]

if they dont switch shouldnt it in theory be an easy layup for ben.. (well it is ben we are talking about but still)

On that particular instance, yeah, because RJ isn't paying attention and gets completely eaten up by that screen. If he slides under and some help comes from the side I think you could defend pretty well if you were prepared for it. Maybe this becomes something like the JJ screens for Joel that catch teams off guard once a game.

if a shooter is in the corner as they should be(asking alot from brett) then that help defender leaves an open 3

Someone other than Thybulle could maybe make a team think twice about doubling. Should still be able to get a challenge on that corner shot with the right rotations though.

[76ciology]

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They should just try to perfect this.

They tried it the next time down and it failed because the Knicks didn't switch.

Edit: Rewatched the failed version of it. I misremembered what they did because that's what Alaa said they did. They actually did still switch but brought Morris down to trap.

If thats the effect then it’s good. Key is to put Ben in the paint and have multiple defenders at him where he can put his vision, length and passing into good use.

[youngcrev]

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They should just try to perfect this.

They tried it the next time down and it failed because the Knicks didn't switch.

Edit: Rewatched the failed version of it. I misremembered what they did because that's what Alaa said they did. They actually did still switch but brought Morris down to trap.

If thats the effect then it’s good. Key is to put Ben in the paint and have multiple defenders at him where he can put his vision, length and passing into good use.

True. As long as you've got guys that can make teams pay on the outside

[76ciology]

They tried it the next time down and it failed because the Knicks didn't switch.

Edit: Rewatched the failed version of it. I misremembered what they did because that's what Alaa said they did. They actually did still switch but brought Morris down to trap.

If thats the effect then it’s good. Key is to put Ben in the paint and have multiple defenders at him where he can put his vision, length and passing into good use.

True. As long as you've got guys that can make teams pay on the outside

I believe in our guys, outside ben’s, shooting ability. I even think Biid can be a very good 3pt shooter.

[youngcrev]

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I'm guessing half of this board was like

[BullyKing]

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Stupid Brett Brown should have called the play where Ben steals the ball and dunks it earlier. SMH