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What does everyone think about Tyrese Haliburton? I haven't been watching any college basketball yet but I read an article about him today and it got me excited about his potential fit with our core.
He's a hyper-efficient player who makes his teammates better. Outstanding assist-to-turnover ratio, good three point shooter, good defensive player. He's a PG but doesn't need to be the primary ball handler or have the ball in his hands all the time, so could play well with Wiggins/Towns being more ball dominant. The article describes him as a "super role player", which honestly sounds perfect to me for what we need in a PG.
My biggest concern is watching the highlights in the article and seeing his shooting form, which needs work. Also, he's a sophomore and his efficiency has been dipping a bit compared to last year now that he's taking on a bigger scoring role within the offense. But these are things that will likely cause him to slip into the teens/early twenties and make him a reasonable option for where it looks like we may be drafting.
Here is the article for anyone who is interested in reading it: https://www.theringer.com/2019/11/27/20984769/tyrese-haliburton-iowa-state-nba-draft-prospect
He's a hyper-efficient player who makes his teammates better. Outstanding assist-to-turnover ratio, good three point shooter, good defensive player. He's a PG but doesn't need to be the primary ball handler or have the ball in his hands all the time, so could play well with Wiggins/Towns being more ball dominant. The article describes him as a "super role player", which honestly sounds perfect to me for what we need in a PG.
My biggest concern is watching the highlights in the article and seeing his shooting form, which needs work. Also, he's a sophomore and his efficiency has been dipping a bit compared to last year now that he's taking on a bigger scoring role within the offense. But these are things that will likely cause him to slip into the teens/early twenties and make him a reasonable option for where it looks like we may be drafting.
Here is the article for anyone who is interested in reading it: https://www.theringer.com/2019/11/27/20984769/tyrese-haliburton-iowa-state-nba-draft-prospect
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ClarkeW wrote:What does everyone think about Tyrese Haliburton? I haven't been watching any college basketball yet but I read an article about him today and it got me excited about his potential fit with our core.
He's a hyper-efficient player who makes his teammates better. Outstanding assist-to-turnover ratio, good three point shooter, good defensive player. He's a PG but doesn't need to be the primary ball handler or have the ball in his hands all the time, so could play well with Wiggins/Towns being more ball dominant. The article describes him as a "super role player", which honestly sounds perfect to me for what we need in a PG.
My biggest concern is watching the highlights in the article and seeing his shooting form, which needs work. Also, he's a sophomore and his efficiency has been dipping a bit compared to last year now that he's taking on a bigger scoring role within the offense. But these are things that will likely cause him to slip into the teens/early twenties and make him a reasonable option for where it looks like we may be drafting.
Here is the article for anyone who is interested in reading it: https://www.theringer.com/2019/11/27/20984769/tyrese-haliburton-iowa-state-nba-draft-prospect
Hopefully we are drafting late enough where he makes sense for us.
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ClarkeW wrote:What does everyone think about Tyrese Haliburton? I haven't been watching any college basketball yet but I read an article about him today and it got me excited about his potential fit with our core.
He's a hyper-efficient player who makes his teammates better. Outstanding assist-to-turnover ratio, good three point shooter, good defensive player. He's a PG but doesn't need to be the primary ball handler or have the ball in his hands all the time, so could play well with Wiggins/Towns being more ball dominant. The article describes him as a "super role player", which honestly sounds perfect to me for what we need in a PG.
My biggest concern is watching the highlights in the article and seeing his shooting form, which needs work. Also, he's a sophomore and his efficiency has been dipping a bit compared to last year now that he's taking on a bigger scoring role within the offense. But these are things that will likely cause him to slip into the teens/early twenties and make him a reasonable option for where it looks like we may be drafting.
Here is the article for anyone who is interested in reading it: https://www.theringer.com/2019/11/27/20984769/tyrese-haliburton-iowa-state-nba-draft-prospect
Nice find. From what I’ve read thus far, this guy should be our #1 target.
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KGdaBom wrote:ClarkeW wrote:What does everyone think about Tyrese Haliburton? I haven't been watching any college basketball yet but I read an article about him today and it got me excited about his potential fit with our core.
He's a hyper-efficient player who makes his teammates better. Outstanding assist-to-turnover ratio, good three point shooter, good defensive player. He's a PG but doesn't need to be the primary ball handler or have the ball in his hands all the time, so could play well with Wiggins/Towns being more ball dominant. The article describes him as a "super role player", which honestly sounds perfect to me for what we need in a PG.
My biggest concern is watching the highlights in the article and seeing his shooting form, which needs work. Also, he's a sophomore and his efficiency has been dipping a bit compared to last year now that he's taking on a bigger scoring role within the offense. But these are things that will likely cause him to slip into the teens/early twenties and make him a reasonable option for where it looks like we may be drafting.
Here is the article for anyone who is interested in reading it: https://www.theringer.com/2019/11/27/20984769/tyrese-haliburton-iowa-state-nba-draft-prospect
Hopefully we are drafting late enough where he makes sense for us.
Have you seen this guy play? He is pretty incredible. He kind of reminds me of a point guard version of Brandon Clarke (obviously different play style). Slender build and ugly shot but it goes in at a high %. Super efficient.
He's not a secret anymore so I think he's going to fly up the draft boards prior to the draft. Nbadraft.net already has him up to #14. I'm guessing if we make the playoffs, he will be selected before our draft slot.
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DaKidKG wrote:KGdaBom wrote:ClarkeW wrote:What does everyone think about Tyrese Haliburton? I haven't been watching any college basketball yet but I read an article about him today and it got me excited about his potential fit with our core.
He's a hyper-efficient player who makes his teammates better. Outstanding assist-to-turnover ratio, good three point shooter, good defensive player. He's a PG but doesn't need to be the primary ball handler or have the ball in his hands all the time, so could play well with Wiggins/Towns being more ball dominant. The article describes him as a "super role player", which honestly sounds perfect to me for what we need in a PG.
My biggest concern is watching the highlights in the article and seeing his shooting form, which needs work. Also, he's a sophomore and his efficiency has been dipping a bit compared to last year now that he's taking on a bigger scoring role within the offense. But these are things that will likely cause him to slip into the teens/early twenties and make him a reasonable option for where it looks like we may be drafting.
Here is the article for anyone who is interested in reading it: https://www.theringer.com/2019/11/27/20984769/tyrese-haliburton-iowa-state-nba-draft-prospect
Hopefully we are drafting late enough where he makes sense for us.
Have you seen this guy play? He is pretty incredible. He kind of reminds me of a point guard version of Brandon Clarke (obviously different play style). Slender build and ugly shot but it goes in at a high %. Super efficient.
He's not a secret anymore so I think he's going to fly up the draft boards prior to the draft. Nbadraft.net already has him up to #14. I'm guessing if we make the playoffs, he will be selected before our draft slot.
Is it supposed to be alright that I've seen him listed as only 174 pounds? They didn't even feel justified in rounding it up to 175? At 6 ft 5 inches, that's a bit on the slender side. I hope he's made of rubberbands and not glass. He would have to be elite in his skills to survive and not turn into a 5 year project while he finds a way to gain 25 pounds. From Iowa State to the Iowa Wolves for minutes and man building training.
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Jedzz wrote:DaKidKG wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Hopefully we are drafting late enough where he makes sense for us.
Have you seen this guy play? He is pretty incredible. He kind of reminds me of a point guard version of Brandon Clarke (obviously different play style). Slender build and ugly shot but it goes in at a high %. Super efficient.
He's not a secret anymore so I think he's going to fly up the draft boards prior to the draft. Nbadraft.net already has him up to #14. I'm guessing if we make the playoffs, he will be selected before our draft slot.
Is it supposed to be alright that I've seen him listed as only 174 pounds? They didn't even feel justified in rounding it up to 175? At 6 ft 5 inches, that's a bit on the slender side. I hope he's made of rubberbands and not glass. He would have to be elite in his skills to survive and not turn into a 5 year project while he finds a way to gain 25 pounds. From Iowa State to the Iowa Wolves for minutes and man building training.
Yes his frame is obviously a weakness. He doesn't look like he has the body type to put on a lot more weight either. That being said, you're asking him to play point guard so I don't think his weight will hurt his draft value as much as it would a forward or center. Most point guards in the league are around 200 pounds or less.
By the way he also supposedly has a 7 foot wingspan which is crazy for a point guard. That should help him make up for most of the issues he has with getting bullied around.
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Meanwhile Mannion is shooting with 53%fga and 47% 3pta (avg of 4 threes/game)
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Depending on where we pick, and how players come out, Jalen Smith is a name I could see showing up. Precious Achiuwa and Mamadi Diakite are right there as well. I am thinking of players in the 10-20 range that fit the PF position as we use it.
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DaKidKG wrote:Jedzz wrote:DaKidKG wrote:Have you seen this guy play? He is pretty incredible. He kind of reminds me of a point guard version of Brandon Clarke (obviously different play style). Slender build and ugly shot but it goes in at a high %. Super efficient.
He's not a secret anymore so I think he's going to fly up the draft boards prior to the draft. Nbadraft.net already has him up to #14. I'm guessing if we make the playoffs, he will be selected before our draft slot.
Is it supposed to be alright that I've seen him listed as only 174 pounds? They didn't even feel justified in rounding it up to 175? At 6 ft 5 inches, that's a bit on the slender side. I hope he's made of rubberbands and not glass. He would have to be elite in his skills to survive and not turn into a 5 year project while he finds a way to gain 25 pounds. From Iowa State to the Iowa Wolves for minutes and man building training.
Yes his frame is obviously a weakness. He doesn't look like he has the body type to put on a lot more weight either. That being said, you're asking him to play point guard so I don't think his weight will hurt his draft value as much as it would a forward or center. Most point guards in the league are around 200 pounds or less.
By the way he also supposedly has a 7 foot wingspan which is crazy for a point guard. That should help him make up for most of the issues he has with getting bullied around.
Yeah well, it comes down to whether he has the shooting and handles to succeed or not. If they have them, size isn't that big a deal. But he is sort of sounding like yet another tall and long player that just can't hack it against the bodies at SG or SF so they are going the PG route to survive. We already have a few of those it seems. If he can get that shot back above .40 for the season and show he can handle the ball for real than why not. I'm not against small players. But weak players might be an issue. Derrick Rose is already one of my favorite Wolves players and he was 6-2, but 200 lbs. Rubio was 6-3 and 190 and he had to put up with getting bullied a little. Imagine 175?
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The Duke-y I'm going to start watching more closely is Cassius Stanley. Pretty much all of our 3/D guys are either missing the 3 or the D, but Stanley looks like he might have both.
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I don't see a chance he gets to the 2nd.
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tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
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Can anyone explain me whether draft 2020 is:
1) strong in top10
2) deep outside top10
I mean how valuable is our FRP? I have read some contradicting articles, so it is not clear for me.
1) strong in top10
2) deep outside top10
I mean how valuable is our FRP? I have read some contradicting articles, so it is not clear for me.
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ClarkeW wrote:What does everyone think about Tyrese Haliburton? I haven't been watching any college basketball yet but I read an article about him today and it got me excited about his potential fit with our core.
He's a hyper-efficient player who makes his teammates better. Outstanding assist-to-turnover ratio, good three point shooter, good defensive player. He's a PG but doesn't need to be the primary ball handler or have the ball in his hands all the time, so could play well with Wiggins/Towns being more ball dominant. The article describes him as a "super role player", which honestly sounds perfect to me for what we need in a PG.
My biggest concern is watching the highlights in the article and seeing his shooting form, which needs work. Also, he's a sophomore and his efficiency has been dipping a bit compared to last year now that he's taking on a bigger scoring role within the offense. But these are things that will likely cause him to slip into the teens/early twenties and make him a reasonable option for where it looks like we may be drafting.
Here is the article for anyone who is interested in reading it: https://www.theringer.com/2019/11/27/20984769/tyrese-haliburton-iowa-state-nba-draft-prospect
The only other schools from major conferences to even offer him a scholarship were Nebraska, Minnesota, and Cincinnati.
Too bad we couldn't get an up close look.
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We should try to get a late first or early second and draft Markus Howard. His height hurts him, but he is such a good shooter. Roughly 45% from 3 on over 8 attempts a game 85% from the free throw line at over 8 attempts per game.
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Reading Vencie's latest mock draft in the Athletic & while may not be exactly Wolves related....but being old & around youth & HS basketball in MN for a number of years....it has to be one of the states that has seen one of the more dramatic improvements over the last few years....now 5 MN kids in the top 35 in his latest mock with all 5 of them having a legit FRP possibilities....that & watching the Minnehaha team playing right now....just lots of examples of how far the game has come here locally. Fun to see...
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Correction...4 kids...my bad (Zeke, Jones, hurt, & otura).old school 34 wrote:Reading Vencie's latest mock draft in the Athletic & while may not be exactly Wolves related....but being old & around youth & HS basketball in MN for a number of years....it has to be one of the states that has seen one of the more dramatic improvements over the last few years....now 5 MN kids in the top 35 in his latest mock with all 5 of them having a legit FRP possibilities....that & watching the Minnehaha team playing right now....just lots of examples of how far the game has come here locally. Fun to see...
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Tyrese Haliburton seems to be the obvious pick for Twolves. However his stocks are increasing rapidly hence unless some major trade will be performed we wont have chance to select him... 
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old school 34 wrote:Correction...4 kids...my bad (Zeke, Jones, hurt, & otura).old school 34 wrote:Reading Vencie's latest mock draft in the Athletic & while may not be exactly Wolves related....but being old & around youth & HS basketball in MN for a number of years....it has to be one of the states that has seen one of the more dramatic improvements over the last few years....now 5 MN kids in the top 35 in his latest mock with all 5 of them having a legit FRP possibilities....that & watching the Minnehaha team playing right now....just lots of examples of how far the game has come here locally. Fun to see...
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With Suggs and Holmgren also being future prospects.
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