Around the League - 2019-2020

[Negrodamus]

Not just being a shooter.

He just doesnt have if takes to be a star caliber offensive player. Like I said, in a 2 v1 situation with Earl Boykins is playing defense, Ben is the type who’s going to pass it to his teammate rather than going strong to score.

If Ben was a confident shooter, he would have an easier time getting past guys because they’d have to play up on him. I said at draft time that as long as everyone is on board with having a complete non-shooter, then everyone should be fine with him.

That said, the reasons I liked Ingram didn’t stand the test of time. His FT% was rough which suggested he was not going to be an elite shooter at this level. What he’s doing is an anomaly, honestly. But that’s different than being a complete mess as a shooter.

Giannis is not a shooter. But on transition he is relentless in taking it to the hole. Doesnt have to be a freak. Remember back then how Corey Maggette used to play back then?

It’s more than shooting. It’s mentality.

Some players know when is the right time to shoot and pass. While players like melo/wiggins and ben/rondo are on the complete extreme end of that spectrum.

Giannis is not a shooter, but he's a career 73% FT shooter which suggests that his form isn't a complete nightmare. He's had more to build on over the span of his career.

As many have said, Ben hasn't added anything to his game since arguably high school. His form is still as bad as the day we drafted him. Ben is also not the same length as Giannis which causes issues with finishing at the rim. His thought process is probably motivated by LeBron's approach of how he'd rather be the guy that gets the game winning assist than be the one shooting. The difference is that LeBron has always been capable of being the game winning role. Ben wouldn't even try because he knows his limitations.

The lack of length coupled with his lack of touch around the rim and complete dependency on his right hand in non-jumpshot situations was completely evident at LSU as much as it is today.

Thank god his lethargic defense didn't persist.

[Bum Adebayo]

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What an amazing comeback he is making, haters would make you think he is washed and doesn't belong in NBA.

[76ciology]

If Ben was a confident shooter, he would have an easier time getting past guys because they’d have to play up on him. I said at draft time that as long as everyone is on board with having a complete non-shooter, then everyone should be fine with him.

That said, the reasons I liked Ingram didn’t stand the test of time. His FT% was rough which suggested he was not going to be an elite shooter at this level. What he’s doing is an anomaly, honestly. But that’s different than being a complete mess as a shooter.

Giannis is not a shooter. But on transition he is relentless in taking it to the hole. Doesnt have to be a freak. Remember back then how Corey Maggette used to play back then?

It’s more than shooting. It’s mentality.

Some players know when is the right time to shoot and pass. While players like melo/wiggins and ben/rondo are on the complete extreme end of that spectrum.

Giannis is not a shooter, but he's a career 73% FT shooter which suggests that his form isn't a complete nightmare. He's had more to build on over the span of his career.

As many have said, Ben hasn't added anything to his game since arguably high school. His form is still as bad as the day we drafted him. Ben is also not the same length as Giannis which causes issues with finishing at the rim. His thought process is probably motivated by LeBron's approach of how he'd rather be the guy that gets the game winning assist than be the one shooting. The difference is that LeBron has always been capable of being the game winning role. Ben wouldn't even try because he knows his limitations.

The lack of length coupled with his lack of touch around the rim and complete dependency on his right hand in non-jumpshot situations was completely evident at LSU as much as it is today.

Thank god his lethargic defense didn't persist.

Personally, I’m not too impressed with him on defense. He’s good but not good enough to compensate his deficiencies on offense.

Doesn’t tell the entire story. But watch the replay of Kawhi’s winning shot against us. Watch how ben played defense on that sequence.

[Negrodamus]

Giannis is not a shooter. But on transition he is relentless in taking it to the hole. Doesnt have to be a freak. Remember back then how Corey Maggette used to play back then?

It’s more than shooting. It’s mentality.

Some players know when is the right time to shoot and pass. While players like melo/wiggins and ben/rondo are on the complete extreme end of that spectrum.

Giannis is not a shooter, but he's a career 73% FT shooter which suggests that his form isn't a complete nightmare. He's had more to build on over the span of his career.

As many have said, Ben hasn't added anything to his game since arguably high school. His form is still as bad as the day we drafted him. Ben is also not the same length as Giannis which causes issues with finishing at the rim. His thought process is probably motivated by LeBron's approach of how he'd rather be the guy that gets the game winning assist than be the one shooting. The difference is that LeBron has always been capable of being the game winning role. Ben wouldn't even try because he knows his limitations.

The lack of length coupled with his lack of touch around the rim and complete dependency on his right hand in non-jumpshot situations was completely evident at LSU as much as it is today.

Thank god his lethargic defense didn't persist.

Personally, I’m not too impressed with him on defense. He’s good but not good enough to compensate his deficiencies on offense.

Doesn’t tell the entire story. But watch the replay of Kawhi’s winning shot against us. Watch how ben played defense on that sequence.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you in this regard. His value is inflated because of how much responsibility he has on offense, but remove him from the equation and I think his effect on the team's perimeter defense could be compensated by Thybulle, Richardson, and Ennis: high effort, high defensive IQ players with plus size and wingspan.

I think the idea was to not have any holes defensively with everyone taller than 6'5, but that plan didn't really work as well as envisioned, especially with no one to actually create on offense. Like I said in the game thread, I can't imagine anyone in the organization is watching these games and thinking that the offense looks championship caliber, much less reasonably cohesive. In that regard, the buck stops at Simmons since he was hellbent on being the PG of this team.

[Sixerscan]

Giannis is not a shooter. But on transition he is relentless in taking it to the hole. Doesnt have to be a freak. Remember back then how Corey Maggette used to play back then?

It’s more than shooting. It’s mentality.

Some players know when is the right time to shoot and pass. While players like melo/wiggins and ben/rondo are on the complete extreme end of that spectrum.

Giannis is not a shooter, but he's a career 73% FT shooter which suggests that his form isn't a complete nightmare. He's had more to build on over the span of his career.

As many have said, Ben hasn't added anything to his game since arguably high school. His form is still as bad as the day we drafted him. Ben is also not the same length as Giannis which causes issues with finishing at the rim. His thought process is probably motivated by LeBron's approach of how he'd rather be the guy that gets the game winning assist than be the one shooting. The difference is that LeBron has always been capable of being the game winning role. Ben wouldn't even try because he knows his limitations.

The lack of length coupled with his lack of touch around the rim and complete dependency on his right hand in non-jumpshot situations was completely evident at LSU as much as it is today.

Thank god his lethargic defense didn't persist.

Personally, I’m not too impressed with him on defense. He’s good but not good enough to compensate his deficiencies on offense.

Doesn’t tell the entire story. But watch the replay of Kawhi’s winning shot against us. Watch how ben played defense on that sequence.

You mean when arguably the best player in the league took like like 5 steps without dribbling to get a step on him and he still funneled the guy into an incredibly difficult shot?

[76ciology]

Giannis is not a shooter, but he's a career 73% FT shooter which suggests that his form isn't a complete nightmare. He's had more to build on over the span of his career.

As many have said, Ben hasn't added anything to his game since arguably high school. His form is still as bad as the day we drafted him. Ben is also not the same length as Giannis which causes issues with finishing at the rim. His thought process is probably motivated by LeBron's approach of how he'd rather be the guy that gets the game winning assist than be the one shooting. The difference is that LeBron has always been capable of being the game winning role. Ben wouldn't even try because he knows his limitations.

The lack of length coupled with his lack of touch around the rim and complete dependency on his right hand in non-jumpshot situations was completely evident at LSU as much as it is today.

Thank god his lethargic defense didn't persist.

Personally, I’m not too impressed with him on defense. He’s good but not good enough to compensate his deficiencies on offense.

Doesn’t tell the entire story. But watch the replay of Kawhi’s winning shot against us. Watch how ben played defense on that sequence.

You mean when arguably the best player in the league took like like 5 steps without dribbling to get a step on him and he still funneled the guy into an incredibly difficult shot?

Travel or no travel, I prefer him to not stop and be a bystander after Biid came to help. That is aside from “limiting” him to 34points on 53FG% for the series.

And my issues with his defense goes beyond that and maybe it’s just of my high expectations from him.

For me, his motor is not good enough to cover his deficiencies.

[76ciology]

Giannis is not a shooter, but he's a career 73% FT shooter which suggests that his form isn't a complete nightmare. He's had more to build on over the span of his career.

As many have said, Ben hasn't added anything to his game since arguably high school. His form is still as bad as the day we drafted him. Ben is also not the same length as Giannis which causes issues with finishing at the rim. His thought process is probably motivated by LeBron's approach of how he'd rather be the guy that gets the game winning assist than be the one shooting. The difference is that LeBron has always been capable of being the game winning role. Ben wouldn't even try because he knows his limitations.

The lack of length coupled with his lack of touch around the rim and complete dependency on his right hand in non-jumpshot situations was completely evident at LSU as much as it is today.

Thank god his lethargic defense didn't persist.

Personally, I’m not too impressed with him on defense. He’s good but not good enough to compensate his deficiencies on offense.

Doesn’t tell the entire story. But watch the replay of Kawhi’s winning shot against us. Watch how ben played defense on that sequence.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you in this regard. His value is inflated because of how much responsibility he has on offense, but remove him from the equation and I think his effect on the team's perimeter defense could be compensated by Thybulle, Richardson, and Ennis: high effort, high defensive IQ players with plus size and wingspan.

I think the idea was to not have any holes defensively with everyone taller than 6'5, but that plan didn't really work as well as envisioned, especially with no one to actually create on offense. Like I said in the game thread, I can't imagine anyone in the organization is watching these games and thinking that the offense looks championship caliber, much less reasonably cohesive. In that regard, the buck stops at Simmons since he was hellbent on being the PG of this team.

To max out Simmons, we have to use it like how Phil Jackson used Pip. Put him on defense against PGs for the full 48. Then let Ben attack the PG on offense whenever the defense don’t get the chance to switch.

[Sixerscan]

Personally, I’m not too impressed with him on defense. He’s good but not good enough to compensate his deficiencies on offense.

Doesn’t tell the entire story. But watch the replay of Kawhi’s winning shot against us. Watch how ben played defense on that sequence.

You mean when arguably the best player in the league took like like 5 steps without dribbling to get a step on him and he still funneled the guy into an incredibly difficult shot?

Travel or no travel, I prefer him to not stop and be a bystander after Biid came to help. That is aside from “limiting” him to 34points on 53FG% for the series.

And my issues with his defense goes beyond that and maybe it’s just of my high expectations from him.

For me, his motor is not good enough to cover his deficiencies.

Then you must have issues with virtually every other defensive player in the league.

[76ciology]

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Really? He can do that because he’s on a losing team?

I see big time talent right there

[Sixerscan]

It's sort of nuts how many teams are off to hot starts. We're 18-20 games in and 11 teams have won at least 2/3rd of their games. There were 4-6 around this point last year.

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[eagereyez]

If Ingram's FT% stays at >80% then I'll believe his shooting is real. Most guys don't make big improvements to their FT shooting, but those that do usually see improvement in other shooting areas as well.

Fultz is also shooting >80% from the line. If he comes out shooting 35% from 3 next year then there will be a lot of unhappy Sixer fans.

[youngcrev]

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How real contenders close out games...

[Kobblehead]

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How real contenders close out games...

You subtweet me a lot. You realize that?

Jamal Murray is a 22 year old doofus. He shoots invisible arrows after he makes shots. I don't expect consistent winning decisions or maturity from him for another 2-4 years.

[youngcrev]

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How real contenders close out games...

You subtweet me a lot. You realize that?

Jamal Murray is a 22 year old doofus. He shoots invisible arrows after he makes shots. I don't expect consistent winning decisions or maturity from him for another 2-4 years.

You're a little full of yourself if you think that post had anything to do with you. Just thought it was a funny moment and worth noting that other top teams do dumb **** too in late game situations. It's quiet as a mouse on the Denver board, though I don't know how active their board is normally.

[the_process]

I know it's not the NBA... but man the Eagles make you feel better about the Sixers.

[Negrodamus]

Jimmy vs Dinwiddie would be a fun series as currently constructed, although I have no idea what the Nets will do once LeVert and Kyrie come back.

[youngcrev]

I know it's not the NBA... but man the Eagles make you feel better about the Sixers.

Never heard of 'em

[Bum Adebayo]

Doncic is amazing man, such dominance as a sophomore. This is what a real offensive dominant player looks like, not artificial offense like James Soften. Some wouldn't have traded him for Simmons and that is sad, but I wasn't expecting this improvement at all, and this goes to the upside thing, where many thought because he was already very skilled but fairly unathletic that he had little upside left. Then again, most also thought Melo is not an NBA player anymore, so it seems most fans don't have much knowledge these days.

[Kobblehead]

Doncic is amazing man, such dominance as a sophomore.

And barely plays a lick of defense. Now embrace Devin Booker and Karl Anthony Towns and you'll make the full leap to the modern NBA.